TOP 10 SPARRERS 2017
 

Name your top 10


No laggers
Australia and France is allowed

1. ariona


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The infamous top 10 sparer thread :D

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144

1. Sarah
2. Comet
3. Thallen

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1. RyanB
2.RyanB
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7.RyanB
8.RyanB
9.RyanB
10.RyanB

in 2017 it's Sarah×10 but it sucks to see not a single new and strong sparrer for about 2 years

That HG Maphasy chick is pretty darn good. Better than all the SPARRERS I've seen this year at least.

Agree somewhat

sparring is less competitive now then it ever was, for proof of this see this seasons point leaderboards.

However Sarah is basically all I can think of, brett when he ques once every 5 months.

Red number 1

thanks

<3 .

are we just not gonna talk about how ash is still the best or is it just implied now

yall sleeping on kaois

Hard to be real competitive in just regular spar. I don't do gst since I simply never have time for it. If I could get more out of spar other than a little trophy furniture I would be sparring more often.

Then there are the ones from other nations/countries. Not keen on just going up against delayers and laggers all the time, having to adapt to that ruins the experience, I shouldn't have to.

As for #1 sparrers, I don't count Sarah as one of them for a reason I shouldn't have to explain. Anyone who could beat Sarah legit is very good in my books. Patience, timing, consistency, mind games, etc.

#RockTheRed

1.Sarah
2.Alexx
3.Sugar
4.Shasheen
5.Kosiris
6.Kaios
7.Dante
8.Denny
9.Dark
10.Yami

Based off more activity than skill, but being active in sparring nowadays is a ****ing chore. So, good on ya!

that's basically all guild spar lol.

wouldn't even regard kaios in the top 500

2. Tititi

is his 40k within the span of a year, it seems like he got it rly fast

He got it in less than a year.

He started with 7k-7k, now he is 40k-16k?

How tf do you go from 7k-7k to 33k-9k

I recall him using the facebook room a lot when it existed, as you well know no one actually good at sparring used that room so it was a free win whenever you qued.

Tititi is literally trash

hey big boi get the ****in facts right, can u?
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B2-2Ro8Q5...eaderboard.png

sparring always gone through phases where certain devices or pings are dominant and that shapes everyone's stats

rough example of how I'd say things went in terms of ping
http://puu.sh/xgdvn/8fc54f91ba.png

was almost no relevant delayers except maybe Ryo when I first started sparring in 2011 and the delay was manageable, that's when all the PCs came and were just freestomping iDevices with less experience - some iDevices did well but overall I don't think there was any reason a PC player should have been losing more than 30% to iDevices

that kept up for nearly 2 years, around the time that Mother won a few Mixed GSTs is when it slowly started to balance out and more higher-ping sparrers started winning a lot

2013 into 2014 is when people like Yui, Mood, Sarah, etc. were sparring quite a bit more - after that time is when I think sparring became more favorable for higher-ping players just due to the terrible server conditions because it creates an environment that they're used to sparring in

then 2016 was a lot of Sarah, Alexx, etc. - the low-ping sparrers that did spar did it because they were newer to the server and had some gas left in the tank (Brett, Brandon, etc.)

now it's just kind of whatever and even field for everyone because no one good even spars

just my opinion though, in terms of devices PCs have always had the upper hand (especially during US GST era) but most hardcore delayers are mobile players
TL;DR: ****ty server conditions and an influx of PCs in 2011 are mostly what have determined sparring stats over the years (obviously alongside natural factors like skill, etc.)

AUS/ASIA SERVERS
EUROPE SERVERS
PLEASE

wouldn't work out well for anyone in Australia that isn't Alexx, Nell, Dark or me tbh. Don't know of any other sparrers who have sparred 15k+ times (Alexx like 35k+, Nell 24k+, Me 30k+, Dark 18k+?(unsure)

Inevitable too but hes barely active at all.

ya, but having those servers will help the Australian community have a better experience with Graal as a whole

Playing on 200+MS is ****ing ridiculous

yea it is, one of the two reasons why I don't even queue for a spar anymore.

:) nice

No laggers

Why specifically him like 2/3 of that list is foreign xd

It's not a big difference, after that he went 33k-11k which is still pretty good compared to other 2016-2017 sparers

?????????

4k-1.5k ratio based on my records, and he did this every 3 months for a year and half. it's pretty big number we talking here dude.

funny how there's only one serious list on here and it's complete trash

i have less than 1,000 spars of experience in 2017 but from all my spars in that time span i can confidently say that mikva, kicko, and shiden are in the top 10 somewhere. can't think of anyone else who i haven't gone at least 2-1 against.

spar is dead n if u dont think so then explain why kaios is #1 this season lol

1vs
Brett
Thallen
David
Dante
Sarah
Alexx
Shiden
Carly
Liam
Dark

GS
Thallen
Sarah
Dante
Brett
Herc
Exalt
David
Dark
Mk
Blaze

Doesn't mean that everyone else is bad

We are talking about players who are sparring actively in the past 1-2 years.

All of them have sparred in 2017
If you're talking about activity, then might as well copy paste the current seasonal leaderboards...

We're not talking about who gains the most points, for example Kaios is number 1 in this season but probably number 100 if you want to rate his skills.
we're talking about good players who spars at least 30 times every week.

Sounds like a lame attack on the people who have gotten top 3 for the season

In the end everyone's list will be biased (including my own), some people have an easier time against someone than others and vice versa, since location is also a factor

I get it's an opinion and all, but that guy isn't a top 20 active idevice lol. For a comparison, his best GST finals was last season (he went 1 hit negative.) It was also my worst finals (1 hit negative.) If someones best performance ever is failing to break even (go 1:1) they aren't good

Is there even 5?

LIES! Skill is the only factor in spars.

wouldn't put dark in the top 25 tbh

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I would put him at 26 right behind red
:')

"The way the spar community works is that if you're positive, you get to talk. While if you are negative, no matter how far it is from positive, you don't get to defend yourself."

I didn't steal this I just forgot the name of the sparrer who said it in their status

I'm not 2:1 but I can kick some serious arse when I'm actually in the mood to spar. Can't beat the nasty foreign WiFi, though, I mean sure I could but you know how it is.

Has spar become more about who has the highest wins or ratio with all of ye? I don't know about anyone else but I'm still learning how to kick more and more arse, even though I'm passed 7k wins.

I don't think there is a way to formally measure sparring skills right now, because there just aren't any formal 1v1 tournaments, only GST. If there were tournaments we'd get a much more accurate skill cap between players, because activity and seasonal wins can come from beating anyone, be that a newer sparrer, intermediate sparrer or advanced sparrer.

Unless ye all want to put together a nice, formal tourney somewhere perhaps we could distinguish the necessary bragging rights to those whom are well-deserving. I believe something like this has been organised this previous year, but I bet there weren't nearly as many players as some of the lists in this thread, upon rankings depicted from those whom believe they qualify for, to have been together to participate in the same tourny, which results in a fairly small niche of 'good' sparrers.

"I got 1st in 205's tourny!" Well, from the lists shown in this thread, how many participated? Inconclusive or very limited results as far as I could see from something like that, as well as the current spar system.

Dante and Sarah have done it

Dante's was open to every single active, strong sparrer: http://challonge.com/graalclassicst
Sarah's was exclusive to past and present Alumni members: http://challonge.com/alumni2016

The finals were literally the exact same - same sparrers, same match score, by the same number of hearts
Not jerking myself off over here, just putting it out there

I also don't think tournaments prove anything because the nature of a tournament is to take a small sample size and make a determination based off that
There are times when Paddie will beat me in 2 out of 3 spars and then she'll lose the next 20 is what I'm saying

Well sometimes that's just how it is, small sample sizes. Players need to be ready to perform. Something I've seen before, similar to a series, is where there will be a best out of 5 system with 3 rounds per match. For example, Thallen vs. Paddie: first round Paddie knocks ye up a little and wins the first couple matches, so 0-2 Paddie. She needs one more to win the first round, but since it's out of 5 you can still come back and win 3 times for the round. So, really, you have to beat her 9 times to win the full match.

So it would look something like this: 3-2 Thallen for round one.

3-1 Thallen for round two.

3-0 Thallen for round three.

And that's that, ye beat her and ye move on. I think that can be very accurate to determine a clear winner in a system like that.

Also, how can ye lose to Paddie?

Jokes, inconsistency is a b****.