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HamStarr 08-09-2017 06:31 AM

Valve finally revealed their next upcoming game!
 
... and let me tell ya, what a ****in' disappointment.


Eugeen 08-09-2017 10:52 AM

Dissapointing to see it be a trading card game

Crono 08-09-2017 07:45 PM

lol

Admiral 08-10-2017 12:34 AM

residentsleeper

Ray 08-10-2017 03:14 AM

Yeah, even the crowd at that event was like pretty disappointed.

MisterFace 08-10-2017 05:18 AM

Valve, the biggest comedian of all time.

Got'eem

HamStarr 08-10-2017 06:49 AM

plot twist: it's actually hl3

Thallen 08-10-2017 09:04 AM

not too surprising, these games are massive cash crops and probably insanely easy to maintain and crank out content for

Red 08-10-2017 10:27 AM

wish they'd start developing tf2's pyro update faster

Crono 08-10-2017 12:07 PM

my fellow dota players and i are not pleased

Colin 08-10-2017 06:35 PM

still better than league

Crono 08-10-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 792734)
still better than league

this guy knows whats up

Thallen 08-10-2017 08:53 PM

I'm surprised it's being labeled a "Dota card game." Is there even enough lore and characters in Dota to keep sustaining content? Hearthstone is based around World of Warcraft and they're already growing thin on card ideas, remaking a lot of characters and even just creating some new characters exclusively for Hearthstone.

Colin 08-10-2017 08:59 PM

DOTA 2 has 108 heroes all of which have lore tied to them and their abilities, and the general lore is left open ended which leaves room for them to go in several directions.

There's a lot of lore in World of Warcraft that Hearthstone hasn't touched mainly because it just doesn't all fit because of the style of game but when you consider games like DOTA/LoL they match card games a lot more because it's already a hero vs hero game.

HamStarr 08-11-2017 02:44 AM

Quote:

Posted by Red (Post 792715)
wish they'd start developing tf2's pyro update faster

I've heard that they're finishing up on the development for the Pyro Update. Now we wait...

5hift 08-11-2017 02:56 PM

The reviews for this game are going to be fun to read.

Crono 08-11-2017 05:44 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 792743)
I'm surprised it's being labeled a "Dota card game." Is there even enough lore and characters in Dota to keep sustaining content? Hearthstone is based around World of Warcraft and they're already growing thin on card ideas, remaking a lot of characters and even just creating some new characters exclusively for Hearthstone.

heroes, neutrals, npc characters, they have plenty to go on but im pretty sure its the card game no one wanted

HamStarr 08-12-2017 02:28 AM

Quote:

Posted by 5hift (Post 792818)
The reviews for this game are going to be fun to read.

I can see the salt now...

"tf2 died for this"

Thallen 08-12-2017 02:30 AM

I think they're kinda late on the card game train and they'll have to pull off something pretty interesting to set it apart from Hearthstone and GWENT. Biggest issue with TCGs is that the game state gets stale really quickly. The most unfortunate thing about these games is that deckbuilding isn't an important part of being good.

Wizaah 09-27-2017 07:29 PM

I'm actually excited for the game. Card games have a negative connotation by their nature because many of them have been poorly executed projects. To further this, many people have a negative opinion of DotA because they don't understand the game or have personal biases. For these reasons, the opinion so far on the game has been overwhelmingly negative and this negativity has caused many to jump on the 'VALVE SUX!' bandwagon.

The DotA lore is quite interesting, and the world is massive, allowing for a potentially very strong narrative. Also, the gameplay mechanics of DotA have all been confirmed to be in this card game. DotAs features are all very robust and strong, and a card game that even comes close to DotAs mechanics will be like no card game currently released. In terms of the people complaining about Valve making it P2W, none of Valves games have ever been P2W so they won't start with Artifact. Valve likes creating cosmetics and hats that make money to avoid having the bad money making practices in many games, but they never make the games themselves P2W. DotA itself is one of the most F2P games ever made because there is not a single aspect of the game that is dictated by anything you could pay for.

The argument that this game is taking the place of the pyro update or HL3 is just daft because of the way that Valve functions as a company. If you work at Valve, you are able to freely choose what you want to work on. Because of this, the people working on this game were not told by 'Valve' to work on the game instead of HL3 or the pyro update, they made that decision themselves. Artifact was announced at a DotA event because it is based in the DotA universe, the other games that Valve is working on will be announced soon as discussed at last years Steam Dev Days.


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