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Rekkles 06-09-2017 07:18 PM

Bribing rates
 
News update, so as graal can't seem to get good reviews they've hosted a competition for them.

What are your thoughts?

Striken 06-09-2017 07:21 PM

You're still on the game without there being any good reviews.

Weeno 06-09-2017 07:22 PM

I'm down, except this doesn't sound so legit. How do we know what the prizes are? How do they know which player made the review?

Rekkles 06-09-2017 07:24 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 786195)
You're still on the game without there being any good reviews.

I got recommended it by a friend.

Bryan* 06-09-2017 07:27 PM

Just read it and management is desperate.

Agonee 06-09-2017 07:29 PM

Unfair.... Only Idev peeps get exclusive stuff....

Elk 06-09-2017 07:33 PM

my mom found graal for me 17 years ago, she googled online games

Colin 06-09-2017 07:34 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...6032/image.png

maybe prize is 5-star hat??

Pokki 06-09-2017 07:41 PM

y do they have to make the deadline so long like cmon man ):
anyways, i gave it a bad rating because classic truly is trash right now

Agonee 06-09-2017 07:54 PM

May you WIN pokki!

Pokki 06-09-2017 08:03 PM

Quote:

Posted by Agonee (Post 786203)
May you WIN pokki!

thx d4dd13 i'm sur3 th3y'll p1ck m3!

Ariona13 06-09-2017 08:10 PM

Edit: I gave the app 1 star and explained why and was as reasonable as I could maybe they will see it and give me the prize for honesty :)

Also I see a lot of people saying they're gonna give negative reviews if they don't win so good luck
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Rekkles 06-09-2017 08:40 PM

Maybe it will me like
1. Hat and 10k
2. Hat
3. 2k
4-10. 1k

RyanB 06-09-2017 11:47 PM

I r8 5 starz
I luv babiez and the dirty rp
Iet makz m3 fap 2 gral grillz

Thallen 06-10-2017 03:12 AM

I'm pretty sure this is illegal by App Store's terms and conditions? Even if it isn't, kind of a horrible way to go about things - how about just make your game better if you want positive reviews?

ZedFox 06-10-2017 03:16 AM

http://i.imgur.com/rUTSjUo.pngg
My review, I really hope they notice it.

DoubleliftGraal 06-10-2017 03:22 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 786201)

My bet is something stupid, like probably a 60 gralat hat, plus a VIP voucher, plus 500 gralats. I'd consider an exclusive prize to be an old gst hat or towering hat, or maybe an old expensive extinct something. Or maybe 1 million gralats(like someone in this game lol.)

4-Lom 06-10-2017 03:31 AM

I actually checked the calendar to see if it's April 1st. (just 8 AM here... wasn't sure of date). That's kinda cheesy... and the prize will probably go to some random no-account noob with like 160 hours who will abandon the game after a month or two (like that dinosaur prize back at prehistory revolution).

On the plus side maybe they will release some '200k likes' style hat again.

OH and not everyone plays on iphones, guys.

Eugeen 06-10-2017 03:34 AM

Quote:

Posted by 4-Lom (Post 786275)
I actually checked the calendar to see if it's April 1st. (just 8 AM here... wasn't sure of date). That's kinda cheesy... and the prize will probably go to some random no-account noob with like 160 hours who will abandon the game after a month or two (like that dinosaur prize back at prehistory revolution).

On the plus side maybe they will release some '200k likes' style hat again.

OH and not everyone plays on iphones, guys.

Gotta bribe the most profitable side right

alexx 06-10-2017 04:28 AM

you know the games bad when they can't get any positive reviews without an incentive attached to it

Agonee 06-10-2017 04:35 AM

Zedfox I'm rooting for you, great review!!

Skyzer 06-10-2017 05:24 AM

Unban my accounts and I'll set up a review bot. I'll throw in a billboard ad for free.

twilit 06-10-2017 05:49 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 786201)

lmao. the bull**** begins at the word "updated" and just doesnt stop.

alexx 06-10-2017 06:52 AM

Lol the game gets updated so rarely that when it does, it hosts a contest to celebrate its massive achievement

Congratulations on your update graal!!

AngelRose 06-10-2017 07:00 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 786270)
I'm pretty sure this is illegal by App Store's terms and conditions? Even if it isn't, kind of a horrible way to go about things - how about just make your game better if you want positive reviews?

I actually found something in the Apple Developer's Terms and Conditions (App Store Review Guidelines, Section 3.2.2, Part vi):

"Apps should allow a user to get what they've paid for without performing additional tasks, such as posting on social media, uploading contacts, checking in to the app a certain number of times, etc. Apps should not require users to rate the app, review the app, watch videos, download other apps, tap on advertisements, or take other similar actions in order to access functionality, content, use the app, or receive monetary or other compensation. "

I will only cite this. I won't say whether or not Graal actually broke the rules, because I wouldn't want my interpretation to be taken the wrong way.

About the contest overall... I think it's really dumb, considering the fact that the update was pretty small compared to updating the entire map, for example. It's also insane how the rating on the App Store for GraalOnline Classic+ moved from 3.5 stars to 4.5 stars in a day (I'd show pics if I had any from the time when it was 3.5 stars).

Edit: For anyone who wants to read the App Store Review Guidelines (especially Section 3), here's the link: https://developer.apple.com/app-stor...ew/guidelines/

Howl 06-10-2017 08:11 AM

this high key sad

Rekkles 06-10-2017 08:30 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 786270)
I'm pretty sure this is illegal by App Store's terms and conditions? Even if it isn't, kind of a horrible way to go about things - how about just make your game better if you want positive reviews?

I've downloaded apps that just say possitive review=10000000 gems on a gem or something along those lines and it's not real

Xenice 06-10-2017 09:25 AM

What if 2000 people made a review, or 500 which is still a lot. Are they actually going to read through all the reviews? I doubt all the reviews would be read ;(

ZedFox 06-10-2017 09:33 AM

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Posted by Rekkles (Post 786308)
I've downloaded apps that just say possitive review=10000000 gems on a gem or something along those lines and it's not real

Usually in games when that happens, it takes you to the store page but I go back on the app and I get my reward.

Tricxta 06-10-2017 09:46 AM

I heard if you report apps that break rules like this to apple they reward you with a prize better than a hat.

Eugeen 06-10-2017 10:06 AM

The latest review on the graal classic + app in the dutch appstore is from 2010 lol
http://i.imgur.com/IkrtAM7.jpg

Edit: my bad there's more recent one but most of them are from around 2010-2014

Rekkles 06-10-2017 10:28 AM

Quote:

Posted by Tricxta (Post 786315)
I heard if you report apps that break rules like this to apple they reward you with a prize better than a hat.



then lets report it :)

Seņor Albonio 06-10-2017 11:48 AM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 786316)
The latest review on the graal classic + app in the dutch appstore is from 2010 lol
http://i.imgur.com/IkrtAM7.jpg

Damn honorpoints, good times. I wish I still had those that I got from gullible noobs.

Raeven 06-10-2017 12:20 PM

Who gives a **** . If these reviews invite more players on the graal games then why not it's both bad and good, maybe this is the hope of grail

Dusty 06-10-2017 02:43 PM

I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Graal already had good reviews so it's not like it is trying to counteract negative reviews. Just when you update an app it starts you with a new slate so the idea is to get people reviewing. Also I'm pretty sure the term "great" refers to the quality of the review, not of the game.

Also anyone using this as a basis for how often graal gets updated is being stupid. The app itself doesn't need to be updated to deliver new content. "lol this just proves how little the game gets updated when is the last update? Years ago!!!" What about castle, house templates, capsule machines, box fort, state contest(and new system)?

PumaD 06-10-2017 02:51 PM

I don't get why they do such an event.. don't they pay for their reviews and stuff anyways?

Raeven 06-10-2017 02:52 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 786343)
What about castle, house templates, capsule machines, box fort, state contest(and new system)?

HUYYYPPEE

Dusty 06-10-2017 02:59 PM

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Posted by Raeven (Post 786345)
HUYYYPPEE

Meant new state system lol.

Sir Travis 06-10-2017 03:01 PM

Well I guess I'll need to polish up my review skills and write a decent review for the contest

Of all the games I've ever played, this one has kept me playing, 4000 hours? No other game even comes close lol!

Vic 06-10-2017 03:19 PM

Seems a little scummy to me, thats all

Pokki 06-10-2017 03:57 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 786347)
Meant new state system lol.

but that isn't a system o_O

4-Lom 06-10-2017 04:12 PM

Quote:

Posted by AngelRose (Post 786303)
I actually found something in the Apple Developer's Terms and Conditions (App Store Review Guidelines, Section 3.2.2, Part vi):

Edit: For anyone who wants to read the App Store Review Guidelines (especially Section 3), here's the link: https://developer.apple.com/app-stor...ew/guidelines/

Interesting that Graal does all these things and often even fails to provide the promised rewards (trialpay im lookin at you).

Dusty 06-10-2017 04:14 PM

Quote:

Posted by Pokki (Post 786356)
but that isn't a system o_O

I guess I just coded a new state purchasing and inventory system for nothing then!

Rekkles 06-10-2017 04:26 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 786343)
I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Graal already had good reviews so it's not like it is trying to counteract negative reviews. Just when you update an app it starts you with a new slate so the idea is to get people reviewing. Also I'm pretty sure the term "great" refers to the quality of the review, not of the game.

Also anyone using this as a basis for how often graal gets updated is being stupid. The app itself doesn't need to be updated to deliver new content. "lol this just proves how little the game gets updated when is the last update? Years ago!!!" What about castle, house templates, capsule machines, box fort, state contest(and new system)?

It's because they want more.

Comyt 06-10-2017 06:28 PM

can someone please describe what this "update" even did? because i haven't noticed any changes and my left arrow key is still broken.

Pokki 06-10-2017 06:53 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 786363)
I guess I just coded a new state purchasing and inventory system for nothing then!

well you could've mentioned inventory ):

Fulgore 06-10-2017 08:37 PM

Pretty sure this goes against some of apple's terms and conditions but w/e

Tricxta 06-10-2017 11:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by Comyt (Post 786374)
can someone please describe what this "update" even did? because i haven't noticed any changes and my left arrow key is still broken.

From what I've gathered they just changed the way the app was built under the hood with the app now being 64-bit as opposed to 32-bit. I'm not actually sure what effects this has in the world of apple apps but it doesn't really have any effect over the content you see and play.

Ethacon 06-11-2017 12:08 AM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 786343)
I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Graal already had good reviews so it's not like it is trying to counteract negative reviews. Just when you update an app it starts you with a new slate so the idea is to get people reviewing. Also I'm pretty sure the term "great" refers to the quality of the review, not of the game.

Also anyone using this as a basis for how often graal gets updated is being stupid. The app itself doesn't need to be updated to deliver new content. "lol this just proves how little the game gets updated when is the last update? Years ago!!!" What about castle, house templates, capsule machines, box fort, state contest(and new system)?

I also find it funny when people act like the lack of updating the app means that an online server for a game never gets content. Updating apps to add content is for single player games. updating an app for an online game means improving the server itself not the content of the server.

Aguzo 06-11-2017 12:29 AM

Not sure if this is 100% what they are doing

https://developer.apple.com/app-stor...ines/#business

Section 3 Business

"If we find that you have attempted to manipulate reviews, inflate your chart rankings with paid, incentivized, filtered, or fake feedback, or engage with third party services to do so on your behalf, we will take steps to preserve the integrity of the App Store, which may include expelling you from the Developer Program."

I guess they are incentivizing their users with some in-game rewards, if they leave a "great" review
I've seen a lot of apps offer "gems" and other types of currency if they leave a review, but never seen one hold a contest giving prizes towards "great" reviews.
People will 5 star, because they want to win what the game is offering, thus helping the app climb the ranks with incentivized reviews.

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Posted by Tricxta (Post 786407)
From what I've gathered they just changed the way the app was built under the hood with the app now being 64-bit as opposed to 32-bit. I'm not actually sure what effects this has in the world of apple apps but it doesn't really have any effect over the content you see and play.

That doesn't seem to be the case
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...2&postcount=39


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