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Yog 05-02-2017 01:47 PM

~$1000 USD Gaming PC help
 
In all honesty I didn't want to have to make a thread asking for help, but I don't know what parts I need for my desired rig. It'd me much appreciated for any help I can get.

The games I'd probably be playing most aren't too high demanding. Things like WoW, and ESO. Most demanding would probably be Overwatch, but I'd probably want the possibility of playing games like Dark Souls 3 and The Witcher 3 once I get the rig tbh.. I don't know what I need to run these games on ultra, and I really don't want to buy something too underpowered. Resolution isn't too important but if the rig can handle something better than my old laptop (1366x768) I wouldn't mind. Also I don't think overclocking is something I'd want to do.

I'd rather try to keep it below $1000 so as to not have to explain why I dropped 1k on "that damn technology", however if it's needed then I can budget it. No more than 1.5k though. My budget doesn't include accessories.

Again I really appreciate any help I can get.

Astram 05-02-2017 03:59 PM

Made something quickly during class. This includes windows 10 and a monitor. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Astram/saved/BdTgsY

Seņor Albonio 05-02-2017 04:08 PM

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Posted by Astram (Post 780171)
Made something quickly during class. This includes windows 10 and a monitor. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Astram/saved/BdTgsY

I'd go for a 1TB harddrive since 2TB is a lot and a cheaper case; there are a lot of cheaper cases that have more to offer, case in point:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharkoon-M2...=sharkoon+case

But that's just my 2 cents :)

Astram 05-02-2017 04:13 PM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 780173)
I'd go for a 1TB harddrive since 2TB is a lot and a cheaper case; there are a lot of cheaper cases that have more to offer, case in point:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharkoon-M2...=sharkoon+case

But that's just my 2 cents :)

I'd agree with you on the case, there are a few cheaper options, personally I just like this one. However, 1TB is not that much anymore and can run out quickly.

5hift 05-02-2017 11:38 PM

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Posted by Astram (Post 780171)
Made something quickly during class. This includes windows 10 and a monitor. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Astram/saved/BdTgsY

No SSD?

Ryan 05-03-2017 12:08 AM

Probably could make do with a 250gb SSD and a 1TB HDD

Yog 05-03-2017 01:21 AM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 780173)
I'd go for a 1TB harddrive since 2TB is a lot and a cheaper case; there are a lot of cheaper cases that have more to offer, case in point:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharkoon-M2...=sharkoon+case

But that's just my 2 cents :)

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Posted by Ryan (Post 780233)
Probably could make do with a 250gb SSD and a 1TB HDD

Not in my case, sweaty. https://steamdb.info/calculator/7656...6582373/?cc=us

Trav 05-03-2017 02:25 AM

Graphic cards matter too, right?
I wouldn't say 1000 is enough.
It looks like you want a high end gaming pc so I'd say you need around 2000.
http://i.imgur.com/d5AXlkV.png
http://i.imgur.com/Qen8AT1.png
http://i.imgur.com/MUUTPaN.png
http://i.imgur.com/2lyapcc.png
Total: $1846.5

This is excluding peripherals such as keyboards, mice etc.
I'm assuming you already have a monitor?
You can tone down a bit on the specs but that is my recommendation.


@ryan :vv
http://i.imgur.com/3HtOah0.png

Yog 05-03-2017 02:30 AM

Can someone explain to me what those two builds could run? I don't mind putting money into a computer but I'd like to know where that money is going.

5hift 05-03-2017 02:50 AM

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Game Bans In good standing
VAC Bans In good standing
Community Ban In good standing
Trade Ban In good standing
Psh, lil goody two-shoes.

Also I would guess that a good chunk of those 300+ games you don't even play so yeah 1TB HDD and 240 SSD should be sufficient.

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Posted by Trav (Post 780257)
Spoiler
Graphic cards matter too, right?
I wouldn't say 1000 is enough.
It looks like you want a high end gaming pc so I'd say you need around 2000.
http://i.imgur.com/d5AXlkV.png
http://i.imgur.com/Qen8AT1.png
http://i.imgur.com/MUUTPaN.png
http://i.imgur.com/2lyapcc.png
Total: $1846.5

This is excluding peripherals such as keyboards, mice etc.
I'm assuming you already have a monitor?
You can tone down a bit on the specs but that is my recommendation.


@ryan :vv
http://i.imgur.com/3HtOah0.png

Jesus dude, water cooling?

Just build the guy something that'll get him by without too much trouble I don't think he has reached that level yet.

Yog 05-03-2017 02:58 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 780266)
Also I would guess that a good chunk of those 300+ games you don't even play so yeah 1TB HDD and 240 SSD should be sufficient.

Alright buddy just because something is true doesn't mean it's okay to say.

5hift 05-03-2017 03:05 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780271)
Alright buddy just because something is true doesn't mean it's okay to say.

Yeah dude I bet you're totally gonna keep playing- what is this ****ing Slime San?

Oh man, Day of Defeat. Classic game. Totally going to sink 900 hours into it.

Quote:

Game Bans Somebody arrest this man
VAC Bans Wall hacks noob
Community Ban Absolute psychopath
Trade Ban Scammed my karambit

Yog 05-03-2017 03:13 AM

Full disclosure I didn't even know I owned that game

5hift 05-03-2017 03:15 AM

WTF ONLY 6 MIN SPENT PLAYING THIS MASTERPIECE???

http://store.steampowered.com/app/71...B%20App%20Page

Trav 05-03-2017 03:16 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780260)
Can someone explain to me what those two builds could run? I don't mind putting money into a computer but I'd like to know where that money is going.

For my build basically
Your games will look nice, FPS shouldn't be too bad either.
You should be able to stream / recoord
You should be able to run alot of programs fine
Quite abit of storage too.
+20 style points

Yog 05-03-2017 03:21 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 780282)
WTF ONLY 6 MIN SPENT PLAYING THIS MASTERPIECE???

http://store.steampowered.com/app/71...B%20App%20Page

It was on my todo list... help me build a PC and then I can play it.

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Posted by Trav (Post 780283)
For my build basically
Your games will look nice, FPS shouldn't be too bad either.
You should be able to stream / recoord
You should be able to run alot of programs fine
Quite abit of storage too.
+20 style points

Everything you just said is dependent on a relative. "My games would look nice" sounds real neat but means nothing. My rig doesn't have to be strong enough to stream. I need a better reason to double my budget.

Trav 05-03-2017 03:36 AM

A little bit of miscommunication
$1846.5 AUD
$1388.75 USD

I doubt you can get what you want with $1000 USD

Yog 05-03-2017 06:51 AM

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Posted by Trav (Post 780285)
A little bit of miscommunication
$1846.5 AUD
$1388.75 USD

Well that makes a difference, but your arbitrary discription still doesn't make sense to me.

Sorry if I'm coming off as a **** here.

Fulgore 05-03-2017 09:25 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780307)
Well that makes a difference, but your arbitrary discription still doesn't make sense to me.

Sorry if I'm coming off as a **** here.

Just one thing you might want to consider if you don't want to have an obsolete PC in a year or two is to build ahead. Sure a more inexpensive rig might do you well now but if new stuff comes out in the next few years and your PC is a little behind that sucks. Might be worth considering from a long-term financial standpoint to drop more now on something that will be able to compete a few years into the future before not being able to handle some stuff.

Seņor Albonio 05-03-2017 09:27 AM

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Posted by Trav (Post 780257)
Graphic cards matter too, right?
I wouldn't say 1000 is enough.
It looks like you want a high end gaming pc so I'd say you need around 2000.
http://i.imgur.com/d5AXlkV.png
http://i.imgur.com/Qen8AT1.png
http://i.imgur.com/MUUTPaN.png
http://i.imgur.com/2lyapcc.png
Total: $1846.5

This is excluding peripherals such as keyboards, mice etc.
I'm assuming you already have a monitor?
You can tone down a bit on the specs but that is my recommendation.


@ryan :vv
http://i.imgur.com/3HtOah0.png

That's one unbalanced build.

Yog 05-03-2017 09:32 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 780317)
Just one thing you might want to consider if you don't want to have an obsolete PC in a year or two is to build ahead. Sure a more inexpensive rig might do you well now but if new stuff comes out in the next few years and your PC is a little behind that sucks. Might be worth considering from a long-term financial standpoint to drop more now on something that will be able to compete a few years into the future before not being able to handle some stuff.

This is actually really good advice. Thanks. I gotta spread.

Trav 05-03-2017 09:54 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780307)
Well that makes a difference, but your arbitrary discription still doesn't make sense to me.

Sorry if I'm coming off as a **** here.

Thats fine, I'll explain everything in detail now that I'm not at school.
I've changed my minds about the parts and how I'm going to help you.
Like Senor said, it was rather unbalanced

So The Witcher 3, on Steam there is a section for recommended specs.

Intel CPU Core i7 3770 3.4 GHz
8 gigabytes of RAM
Nvidia GPU GeForce GTX 770

Overwatch's (Targeting 60fps) :
Operating system: Windows Vista/7/ 8/10 64-bit (latest Service Pack)
Processor: Intel Core i5 or AMD Phenom II X3, 2.8 GHz
Video: Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 or ATI Radeon HD 7950
Memory: 2 GB VRAM, 6 GB System RAM


https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Spec...EZ?EasyBuilder
This looks good for Overwatch - not too sure about The Witcher Though.

You can use this website if you want to check out more
https://www.ibuypower.com/config/easybuilder

Seņor Albonio 05-03-2017 10:06 AM

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Posted by Trav (Post 780321)
Thats fine, I'll explain everything in detail now that I'm not at school.
I've changed my minds about the parts and how I'm going to help you.
Like Senor said, it was rather unbalanced

So The Witcher 3, on Steam there is a section for recommended specs.

Intel CPU Core i7 3770 3.4 GHz
8 gigabytes of RAM
Nvidia GPU GeForce GTX 770

Overwatch's (Targeting 60fps) :
Operating system: Windows Vista/7/ 8/10 64-bit (latest Service Pack)
Processor: Intel Core i5 or AMD Phenom II X3, 2.8 GHz
Video: Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 or ATI Radeon HD 7950
Memory: 2 GB VRAM, 6 GB System RAM


https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Spec...EZ?EasyBuilder
This looks good for Overwatch - not too sure about The Witcher Though.

You can use this website if you want to check out more
https://www.ibuypower.com/config/easybuilder

Rule of thumb:

i3's go with nVidia xx40's and xx50's
i5's go with xx60 and xx70
i7's for xx80 and higher.

Power supplies are a scam, you don't need much power see:


The RAM sweetspot is around 8GB, because of the rising prices and games depending more and more on CPU and GPU's these days.

Motherboards are chosen depending on your needs but in most cases an $80 one does anything you need unless you want to go enthusiast.

Cases can be very cheap, they're mostly for aesthetics.

For coolers go Noctua, Cooler Master or Corsair.

EDIT: Ryzen is also an option but RAM is finicky and motherboards seem scarce. As of now.

Yog 05-03-2017 10:37 AM

Took advice from this thread and some friends https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yogsulate/saved/dPrQ7P

What do you guys think?

Seņor Albonio 05-03-2017 10:58 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780326)
Took advice from this thread and some friends https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yogsulate/saved/dPrQ7P

What do you guys think?

That looks good :) The 1070 is a stronger card but an RX 580 can be considered too.

Crono 05-03-2017 11:29 AM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PQzxY

adjust storage as needed

Foxmon 05-03-2017 11:49 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780331)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PQzxY

adjust storage as needed

What is this amd I see?

Seņor Albonio 05-03-2017 11:56 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780331)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PQzxY

adjust storage as needed

Wouldn't it be more economic and efficient to get the regular R5 1600? It comes with a kickass cooler.

Yog 05-03-2017 12:21 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780331)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PQzxY

adjust storage as needed

Looks like it's only worth getting the Ryzen CPU if I overclock which I don't think I want to do atm, but I like the RAM and GPU better than the one I had in my build.

Seņor Albonio 05-03-2017 01:03 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780334)
Looks like it's only worth getting the Ryzen CPU if I overclock which I don't think I want to do atm, but I like the RAM and GPU better than the one I had in my build.

gud **** fam

Basi 05-03-2017 05:04 PM

1050ti

get a 2 fan case

intel is better than amd even tho i have amd

Crono 05-03-2017 05:15 PM

ya why future proof with 6 cores and 12 threads when u can just have 4 cores

Seņor Albonio 05-03-2017 08:34 PM

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Posted by Basi (Post 780360)
1050ti

get a 2 fan case

intel is better than amd even tho i have amd

He has the budget to go for more powerful hardware, hence those cards.
Ryzen is slaying Intels Kaby Lake atm, and it offers greater potential performance than KL for a lower price.

Yog 05-03-2017 09:14 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780363)
ya why future proof with 6 cores and 12 threads when u can just have 4 cores

dunno what a core does but it sounds neat and future like

Yog 05-03-2017 10:47 PM

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yogsulate/saved/HG823C

Pretty happy with the build now. Only two issues is the case I like is on sale for today only so I'll probably jump on the deal now and buy the parts later.

But the second issue is Crono has me second guessing my CPU. Ugh...

Crono 05-04-2017 01:20 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780410)
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yogsulate/saved/HG823C

Pretty happy with the build now. Only two issues is the case I like is on sale for today only so I'll probably jump on the deal now and buy the parts later.

But the second issue is Crono has me second guessing my CPU. Ugh...

you are NOT running that rig with that psu

Yog 05-04-2017 01:30 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780430)
you are NOT running that rig with that psu

Aaa ok how can I tell which one will?

Phantom 05-04-2017 05:27 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780430)
you are NOT running that rig with that psu

He can probably skate by with that PSU.

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

If you include everything...processor, ram sticks, hard drives, wireless card, mouse, keyboard and if he decides to max out his air flow with 7 complete fans...His Load wattage would be 340 W.

Crono 05-04-2017 10:32 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780433)
Aaa ok how can I tell which one will?

couple points: go 1600 not 1600x on my part list (anyone can edit it i think)

i cant open your build's link. id prob play it safe and get some 550w gold psu. it'll last longer and you dont have to worry as much.

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Posted by Phantom (Post 780463)
He can probably skate by with that PSU.

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

If you include everything...processor, ram sticks, hard drives, wireless card, mouse, keyboard and if he decides to max out his air flow with 7 complete fans...His Load wattage would be 340 W.

this is the oldest point of confusion in the book. you dont skimp out on the psu because if it ****s your other components can also get ****ed

a bronze 450w psu trying to push "340 W" is basically pushing the thing to work. a platinum 550w would probably still have its fan off because its cruise control ezpz for it to power your system. i would also take those measurements with a grain of salt.

Yog 05-04-2017 01:14 PM

I removed the build because it ended up being a carbon copy of yours

Crono 05-05-2017 10:39 AM

so whats ur final build look like, i want fp4 to fist me it b4 u pull the trigger

Yog 05-05-2017 11:16 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780617)
so whats ur final build look like, i want fp4 to fist me it b4 u pull the trigger

2late lolz

Pretty much yours with the R5 1600 instead of the 1600x.

Crono 05-05-2017 12:17 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780618)
2late lolz

Pretty much yours with the R5 1600 instead of the 1600x.

good ****. if you need more storage u can just add more later

Yog 05-05-2017 12:45 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780621)
good ****. if you need more storage u can just add more later

I got a 2TB HDD so I can download a lot of my ****ty Steam games that have no purpose being on an SSD.

Thanks a bunch for the build btw.

Phantom 05-05-2017 02:22 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780476)
this is the oldest point of confusion in the book. you dont skimp out on the psu because if it ****s your other components can also get ****ed

a bronze 450w psu trying to push "340 W" is basically pushing the thing to work. a platinum 550w would probably still have its fan off because its cruise control ezpz for it to power your system. i would also take those measurements with a grain of salt.

I hear ya. My first computer I bought a really ****ty PSU and it shorted out my MB. Forgive my ignorance but are you saying a platinum 700w psu would run better than a bronze psu? I thought the only difference between the levels were just energy efficiency and your electric bill?

Crono 05-05-2017 03:42 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780624)
I got a 2TB HDD so I can download a lot of my ****ty Steam games that have no purpose being on an SSD.

Thanks a bunch for the build btw.

fyi fp4 gave it the fist of approval

Yog 05-05-2017 04:10 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780635)
fyi fp4 gave it the fist of approval

I only made this thread hoping to get your and fp4s input. Don't tell the others.

Also I went for the matte black case I hope that doesn't **** up the build.

Sidenote: the Ryzen 5 1600 comes with a cooler so really happy with that choice.

Crono 05-06-2017 10:59 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780636)
I only made this thread hoping to get your and fp4s input. Don't tell the others.

Also I went for the matte black case I hope that doesn't **** up the build.

Sidenote: the Ryzen 5 1600 comes with a cooler so really happy with that choice.

but the one i picked wus quiet and u could oc it in the future :[

Yog 05-06-2017 12:08 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 780757)
but the one i picked wus quiet and u could oc it in the future :[

So? Not like I can't buy it later...

Crono 05-06-2017 01:56 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 780763)
So? Not like I can't buy it later...

but fak u


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