13 Reasons Why
 

Did anyone else watch it? I finished it in three days and it's insanely good. The ending has so many loose ends that I wonder if it'll have a second season, but tbh I think it's better off without one.

To anyone unfamiliar with it, it's a Netflix original about a girl who kills herself and leaves behind record tapes that describe all the reasons/people that caused her to kill herself (and as the title suggests, there are thirteen people).

I'm not a big comedy fan myself

looked bad when i saw the trailer

I agree. But after seeing this thread and the praise for it, I'll give it a watch. My brother is also binge watching it and told me to watch.

They need to start making the trailers better smh.

i hate the pop ups though. such a scary film

I loved it, it felt real and had such a strong deep message about bullying.
By the way it ended, it probably ain't gonna get a second season but I didn't read the books so, altough i wouldn't mind a second one but I won't be surprised if it wasn't as good as the first one.

Sounds interesting. Tried watching the first episode. Not gonna even bother trying to watch with the heavy topics. I can't do those lmao.

The book is really good, only got through first episode so far for the show though.

I didn't like it, but I'll wait for people to finish watching before I explain why in detail.

Feel like some people are gunna try this at home though...

A lot of it is flawed in my opinion, and I don't really find it accurate in displaying these issues, also Hannah herself seems like a villain in the series even though she is the suicide victim.

Just watched episode one.
It felt like a bad Lifetime movie, and I didn't particularly care about any of the characters.

Don't think I'll continue watching.

That wasnt a troll, but whatever. Heres the ending for those who are weak

If I was gonna kill myself, I'd wanna go quick, not sit there and have to think about it for 10 minutes while I bleed out. Them ol' boys that go out in the woods have the right idea.

I'm Hannah. Hannah Baker.

Well would they really want to make her look like a saint? The message they were trying to convey was how avoidable her suicide could have been and that suicide effects the people around you that you may not necessarily have known cared about you or you would have wanted to hurt. They aren't trying to glorify suicides which is why they actually showed her death and were so visceral in its depiction. You want to feel bad about her death but not to think it was everyone elses fault- I mean for one
Ultimately nobody is the blame for someone who suicides except for the person themselves. However you don't know how a person is really feeling/ who they are and your actions/ words can have consequence in driving them to think they have no other options/ actually think that by committing suicide they are actually helping those around them.

They show Hannah thinking that her committing suicide would help her parents as she felt she was a burden on them because of the financial troubles they were helping and that her death would ultimately help them. That's the mindset many people have when considering suicide which is why the show wanted to illustrate that, that action will have the opposite effect(showing the realistic reaction parents would have when Hannah's mum walked in on her death) even making others

I'm not a suicide professional but I can say that the film definitely does not glorify it, or try to make Hannah look like she was free of conviction. There was a beyond the 13 reasons director episode they aired where they talked about all those issues, specifically and how they made a conscious effect not to make suicide look like a release which is why they went with what they did (how Hannah died) and showed it in its full effect with her visibly suffering rather than a 1 and done kind of death.

This is part of why I don't like it. Bottom line I shouldn't watch a show about suicide and be thinking "Hannah is a ****ty person, and I hate her". I may also just not be the target audience for this show, but I really don't understand the hype for it.

The show is not supppsed to be a pity party for Hannah and the viewers crying over her because she's such a likeable and amazing character. It's about how her death could have been prevented if something had changed.

Also, considering what these characters did to her, they deserve to hear the harsh truth. They killed her. She's not a saint but that's not what the show is trying to make her look like.

I don't think she should be a saint, if she were some innocent girl who's never done anything wrong that'd just be bad writing. But my point is if you are going to write a show that addresses the issue of suicide, she should be in a position where you can feel sympathy for victims so that you, the viewer, want to help make a change.

Nah what if shot him. They both had guns at the end so you never know

It took me 2 attempts at watching it to really get into it. I gave up the first time half-way through episode 2, then re-watched it from the beginning all the way through. I really enjoyed it in the end :)

A lot of the viewers do feel sympathy for her. Obviously it won't work for everyone since obviously this show is targeted towards a certain demographic, but I think 90% of the people who enjoyed the show did feel sympathy for her.

No great movies/serieses to watch for a month and then this series shows up

Really well made

I don't feel sympathy for her at all.

oh cheers just spoil the ending f idiot

Really good ending. One of the few series that ends unexplained and can be enterpreted by the viewer. I can't see a season 2 coming but that ending was great

There are a lot of openings for a second season; however certain parts in the show are super cringe. Over all....it is a good freaking show and I was hooked from tape 1 ;)

Really good, @people saying they don't have sympathy for her etc etc.. I've heard that the book of this programme she actually went through alot worse and this programme more is showing the side of how suicide affects everyone else, that the problems don't just go away after her death, it still affects the others in certain ways and also shows very well in show points where if it was a little bit different if someone did something different or confronted people at that point of time then she still may have been here today.

P.S. I felt like i'm Clay of this world lmao!

so long as it doesn't hurt I think it'd be fun

Season 2: camera kid goes full school shooter lol

The irony.

Does anybody else disagree with the fundamental concept of 13 Reasons, but also really enjoyed watching it? I'm conflicted.

I felt that the book was good enough.
The show is dumb, IMO.

How many episodes is it?

13, one for each reason/side of a tape.

Yes this. Entertaining yet highly problematic (probably)

https://68.media.tumblr.com/1d30e884...2rogo1_500.gif

me when watching 13RW

Good show, Alex didn't deserve to be on the tapes though. Like come on Hannah, he just made a list of girl with good asses lol. Also, sucks that Alex (one of the guys who did nothing much) ended up taking his own life. Also, I hate kourtney

The show uses suicide as a plot device almost to a fault. I haven't read the book so I don't know how they tackle the subject there, but they did it horribly in the show. The only part where a message actually gets across in the show is where Clay finally talks to Skye. In my head I was yelling "FINALLY, A MESSAGE FOR THE AUDIENCE, BE NICE TO PEOPLE". They say they're showing suicide is bad, but that's not entirely true, the show could've done a better job of doing so.

But, on the other hand, the show isn't advocating for suicide like some people say AT ALL. I don't understand how a fictional show can make suicide more prevalent. It may not have got the message across that suicide is BAD, but it doesn't say you should do it either.

Overall, the show is cool, I guess. The fact that they're coming out with a second season (focusing on school shootings) is just dumb and shouldn't be a thing. The show had a hard time getting an actual message across, but it did bring awareness to suicide, rape, and bullying in school, so I appreciate that.

this show is trash

Yeah this comment was a bit too late, better luck with season 2

13 reasons y 2d waifus are better

I'd watch that

a teen chick flick

exactly what I thought since I saw the trailer, and really even the cover image of the show on Netflix

not wasting 13 hours of my life on it

Alex didn't take his own life. The camera perv kid shot him and staged the 'suicide.' Thats why he crossed off Alex's photo.... duh