new spring map
 

I chatted with blackfires yesterday and he said the gani team and him are making a new spring map, and it wont be called spring anymore sadly. He said that the old one was too buggy(obviously they caused it.) and that it need a change. The new map will have the same functions as spring, but why change the name?

Because what if it's winter? Hmmm

Aye, get a gani team together to make a new and improved map of the previous version because it was too buggy.

I don't understand this.

got to get the SFX team to colab with the GFX to script the new map.

@pig think he meant levels team lol

I still don't get how a levels team can script a better map without glitches, or how a sounds and graphics team could do that.

Unless this new spring map isn't a sidescroller like Spring is and isn't really a new Spring map.

Graal wasn't built for sidescrolling ****e

all blackfire said was that the new map was gonna have the same functions but just a different map meaning only one thing changed, but it'll be sad once the name is changed, we may forget, this game is gonna be nothing but a ghost game soon with no one left if someone in charge doesnt take a stand like idk someone like unixmad.:rolleyes:

Coming soon

Graal is an engine and in it can certainly do sidescrolling. Problem is most of the time the physics aren't done right and they recycle the top-down graphics for sprites which makes it feel wrong.

If Dusty can make Graal into Mario Kart then Graal can be made into anything

wowzers

Well yeah obviously can be done but I don't feel it fits in the game well as everything else is different -Makes me also wonder if anyone has had an idea of making a full server in this kind of way or totally different to the normal look of most graal servers

so they just showed a pic of the new spring on the news, opinions, thoughts?

what about the new tileset

:-)

So it was revealed that it really is a Spring map.

So basically its Spring but on the moon for some reason. And we, the community get to name it? Well. If Blackfires continues to do more stuff like this, maybe I could get back into zone. Idk tho...We just have to see what happens with this.

Also, in the "List" (D:<) that blackfires made for names of the Place on IG Forums, Cancer was one of the names. That's funny...

Vote for Phobos!

shhh many managers have been saying that for years whenever someone brings up the tileset

The map features tiles from the new tileset!

Blackfires may be pretty good after all.

Chronos!

can someone post a pic?

https://gyazo.com/3d54f95fe58d0f8fe6da932de2543e07.png
(that's me in the bottom right)

I hope there is a little twist to it instead of it just being spring with a new tileset. It definitely needs some anti gravity motion instead of bouncy like before

i hope thats not the paid tileset

please tell me those aren't the new tiles

That backround looks like the one from Mission 9, still looks pretty great. Also, how the heck are you guys breathing without space helmet? ...I wont question it.

I really hope the new tileset isn't used like this. The whole point of the tileset (in my opinion) was to reinvent Zone, not to just put a new layer over the current Zone.

pff half of the used tiles in that were already done under Tashkin

Those look good for moon tiles tbh. If it is on the Moon.

Pay Elk already FFS, them tiles look alright but no wow factor..building looks like dreadful rip off another tileset just edited that was average n'all

Yeah looks more like Tashkins tileset/images that was in progress that I'm pretty sure was a paid artist hence the ridiculous slowness of what got made but nothing special -Also paid artist didn't have a clue size wise of buildings etc to go with players, remember testing it out and some of buildings/platforms were like smaller than actual players possibly why it's being used for a spring now lmao

im not saying that the tiles are bad, just that it doesnt seem worthy of being paid or something, unless super low rate

also wouldnt justify the amount of time it took to make

i like the wall tiles alot, it seems to have potential in diverse combinations

the rocktiles are very unpolished however

The floating rock section should be a meteor

Lmao I still remember choros and the 2nd Skyworld.

Again, im hoping its not spring with just a different tileset. I really want a few changes in mechanics

Like circular meteors having it's own gravitational pull :ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

o and the outline is hmmmmmm....... ewww.

It would be so much better if there was like a constant gif of a meteor shower in the background. theres a lot of things that we could think of to make the new map better.

Talking about pull and push etc whatever happened with THE FORCE and other tactical weapons. Pretty sure that weapon was like 2nd in zone first poll(that sabre won) and the weapon was never released.. ik it's not like so great but is pretty unique and gives a tactical aspect slightly that would be great.

This

The force? o.o
Yay Star Wars x Knock-off Zelda

"the force" wasnt really invented by starwars though, a lot of futuristic games have some advanced psi abilities and the likes

but itd be cool if an approach like this was made, to get away from just shooting people or those big ass spears

Well Star Wars was something more trendy with the idea sooo.



Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars
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Knock-Off Zelda Knock-Off Zelda Knock-Off Zelda Knock-Off Zelda

ez.

But I don't want a seizure please no.

Recently another screenshot was taken of the map and was put in the news.

I don't have the picture but it basically showed the entire map (I think). If you wanna see it you should either look on Facebook or go on Era and Zoom in (Or classic but when you zoom in there it just loads forever)

http://i.imgur.com/EHKnWiv.jpeg

It shows nothing new, just demonstrates their map design for spring.

And it's uhm.... very chaotic.

Not sure how they expect that map to work out with 360 shooting.

Also doesn't look like they thought it through at all considering the right side has a **** load of more obstacles on their side which will allow them to
1) travel to the other platforms faster
2) dodge bullets easier because the obstacles will act as cover

I think this will be pretty one-sided (much like the original spring, when considering the ladder screwed over the right side if you poisoned/lava them) and very chaotic.

Tbh, idc about the tileset anymore knowing that gfx team has never been great since 2015. What matters is if the new spring would be as enjoyable as the old one. The new map looks more like parkour than a battle arena. Idk if it will be bad or good and it's to early to judge. I'm just happy that big changes that can potentially improve the server are being made unlike the last few years.

The problem is they've been making these changes for the past few years, just not releasing them. Half of the "new" tileset was already made and finished years ago under Tashkin's management. Unixmad screwed over any chance at real updates by playing Manager Roulette for the past year and a half. Changing the layout of spring and using the "new" tileset (95% of which is shown in the new Spring picture was already made under Tashkin's management) is not a major update at all. In fact, it looks more like filler in order to stall for time while portraying the appearance that things are actually happening.

wow that's really clustering

Imagine you made it all he way to the top. You are shooting and you run out of ammo as you are about the jump to the next platform. You freeze then fall all the way down :)

background is best thing about it. should merge that into normal zone

I see. It's really sad how everything has to be delayed just because of Unixmad:/ Almost everyone in zone is buying that its a new big update too.

Tashkin's management was and is so underrated. :/

Also, for everyone saying that the map wont work, imo too, it probably wont but it's not final so dont worry. It's going to be released soon as something like a trial version and they will ask for feedbacks. Majority of it was made by Krawwd and he said it himself that he would remake everything from scratch if he has to. :)