Bad admin?
 

So the admin Dual was hosting events just now and I won the first event of bush race for a top hat. And then the 2nd event he hosted was dodge and I also won it but he decided to kick me without giving me an explanation. I believe it was due to me winning the first event. But is that even fair? Just saying I should be awarded the blue hood it was hosted for >:l

If he didn't specify that if you won already you can't win again then yea i believe you were wronged.

badmins

maybe he accidentally kicked u instead of rewarding. idk

He now messaged me saying "it would be wrong for me to reward you if you didn't win." I clearly won and had people congratulating me to for it. Just seems wrong imo

In regards to that, he said in the first bush race (that nanners won I believe) that if someone wins who owns the top hat, he can't reward you a different hat, no explanation as to why though.

So apart from that if you won the dodge as well then maybe you can't win 2 in a row? I'm not sure, if that was the case he probably should've told you that

That's really silly.

I've always won events where I already had the hat, and got a replacement instead. The hood comes in multiple colours, so what's the harm in giving him another?

You're still a winner to me! ;)

^^^

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i believe you won, otherwise you wouldn't go into this hassle of making a thread. you deserve your prize, regardless of you winning twice in a row. smh @ dual. i guess gp's need to be taught in what to do in certain scenarios in events

Next time he hosts an event, get a 3 foot long 1" diameter wooden dowel rod, get queued, and win. while hes lollygaggin' and not giving you the hat, slip into his house and bludgeon him to death with the dowel rod

Wat

so force him into bondage i like it

pics or it didn't happen, nanner <3

so the event queue thing really doesn't filter previous winners huh..

Was a warper not a queue

No evidence, but as a "witness" I was in both events and Nanners one the first bush race, and I wasn't 100% sure who one the Dodge event, but I do know that someone got to the end and "won", but the event kept going until there was another winner (you can't see the winner's room from the spawn room so I don't know what happened, nor did I see the name for sure but I guess it likely would've been nanners)

Aren't there multiple colors of the hat? If so then you should have been awarded a different colored one

Lol because he was in Autocracy and they were never winners

Shade thrown*

This first event was hosted for a completely different hat.

Also he said he would give me a cookie but I never receive my cookie. I'm hungry ;(

Wait they added warpers back? :o

I'm surprised that happened...usually if you participate in an event where you already have the hat and win, you should get nothing because that's honestly kinda of a s**tty thing to do. I hate when people do that and don't feel bad at all for not awarding someone who wins an event expecting a replacement. You entered the event knowing damn well you had the hat and expecting to get a different hat if you win is really rude to the person hosting it and to the other players who wanted to win that didn't have the hat. so congrats on being a jerk lol.

As for Nanner's situation, considering it was a completely different hat he was competing for i don't get why he wouldn't get it if he won. Even if it was the same hat with multiple recolors i still wouldn't see the problem.
There's nothing i can really do about it though. I only wanted to comment because what Kai said really grinded my gears.

If that's what Kai experienced then why bash him? If that's what happened with him, then perhaps it isn't Kai that's the problem, rather the staff's the problem for not being disciplined enough to follow the rules. Shouldn't we expect consistent behavior in the reward/punishment system of Classic?

i'm confused on how he's being a jerk wth

Breaking news: Admin did not reward winner, Gets Fired!

Oh my gosh. The illuminati is behind this,\.

According to Coco,

Breaking news: Player gets rewarded, Gets Banned!

(Calm down, it's satirical)

be careful criticizing GPs on here, they'll find some weird way to get back at you

Admins need to revert back doing queues. There are older players like Nanner that know how event warpers work and take advantage of them. It's easier for them to find the warps. I recall there being a guild that was entirely devoted to events just for the purpose of winning each and every event. That was years ago untill the queues were brought in. That fixed the problem.

Also, kinda funny some of those same players were later hired as staff on other servers like Graal Zone. Even after being as part of staff, they still complain. People dont change, I guess.

Tititi not banned for anything Yami posted, if he was banned for 'speeding' he would of been reset as well.

On top of that, staff don't ban players based on one player submitted photo so everyone spamming #FreeTititi can stop.

On the topic of events, there needs to be stricter rules for hosting @Jarace/Dread, this is similar to the incident where Leah said Thallen couldn't win the other colour variation of the hat then gave it out to someone who already had it right after, staff are just making it up as they go along which is bound to cause problems.

I had advice for forum newbies but you deleted my post

colin a f*g for deleting my post lol

Exactly, we need behavioural consistency.

Since this is technically your second first post I guess I can repeat what I said before yours and mine got deleted.

You had the opportunity to be productive to society with your first post but that's how you spent it

(I censored the bad word so hopefully mine won't be deleted)

I'm surprised admins are making silly mistakes like these tbh
Really seems like there's a huge lack of guidance on what admins should and should not do as a whole.

I understand you can't prevent an admin from making mistakes but as a player I'd assume there is a clear list of rules when hosting that should be able to be opened by the admin at any time.

Smh at these GP admins. U can screen players when hiring them, but thats about it. They are probably good people but sh*t at their jobs

Let me assure you that the application and screening process is top of the line

What I find suspicious is that he only hosts warper events and disregards the random queue. But that's not the issue. If Nanner won both times with 2 different hats as the prize then he deserves both hats. In addition, if he already had the hat, he can get a replacement (since Dual decided to use a warper instead of a random queue which prevents you from entering the event if you have the hat already). Please quit making non-exisistant rules on the fly.

There was one event that I won all 3 rounds and got 3 different colored hoods so I'm assuming it depends on the GP. But all in all, if you won fair and square, then a event hat needs to be added to your folder.


Edit: @Coco, maybe if you can fix the warpers so if you have the hat it doesn't let you go in but that would cause an uprising.

theres event hats with multiple colours tho

He's being a jerk because he's entering an event where the prize is a hat he already has. I absolutely hate when people do that because it's rude and quite jerk-ish. What else would someone think when entering an event with a hat they already won other than "o I'll get get a different hat instead". Why not let other players who don't have the hat try to win it instead of jumping in and winning again then expecting a replacement hat. How would you feel if someone who was good at the event just kept winning it and getting replacement hats? You really want the prize but can never get it because some butthole keeps taking everyone else's potential win and getting a "replacement hat" for it. It's s**tty.

It's not necessarily a rule to not give a different hat to someone that already has it (at least I don't think) but imo it should be (if it's not already). I don't see why staff needs to go and hunt for a different event hat for someone that's going to be like that and I don't think they should do it at all. It's just one of my graal pet peves and I guess I'm the only one bothered by it.

Coco, that could have been avoided if the GP didn't host a warper event lol. Plus it depends on the event, it's not like they'll always win.

Yeah possibly. I wouldn't suggest doing warpers for a hat event since it's very likely someone who already has it will enter, unlike doing an event for a mount or item that isn't common. But if it were me and someone who already has the hat won I wouldn't have given him squat and probably would have either started the event over or just stop there and no one wins.

Yeah but they still go and enter the event, knowing they have the hat already, and try to win. Doesn't make it any less jerk-ish. Give other people a chance for crying out loud.

An events team would be nice, so that gps can do their job

What a stupid rule..
effectively saying "we shouldn't be awarding people for being good at the game"

how dare they play the game
what assholes

Pictures/Videos or it didnt happen

lol what? No. We should award people for winning an event. We shouldn't reward people for outshining everyone else just to get a bunch of free hats that the event wasn't even being hosted for. That's like the equivalent dickishness of a full grown adult racing a bunch of 1st graders. You know you're better than everyone else at this game, congrats, you won your prize, now let everyone else have a chance.

Also your winning and expecting a different prize than the one announced is not only extremely rude, but it's a pain in the ass to have to go and dig up and different event hat just for your special little self.

I don't think you're understanding. It's more like "why are you playing for a hat you already won. Why aren't you letting other people have a chance at winning? You're ruining the fun for everyone else."

A guild like (EC) is probably the definition of what Coco is trying to portray

By your logic we should prevent players who are good at a certain aspect of a game from participating. Next we should prevent anyone whos won a gst hat from participating in it until everyone has had a chance to win.

In other words: "we should not be rewarding the very good players for their accomplishments because everyone else sucks"

Did you ever believe that you should stop Alumni from participating in the GST when we were literally non-stop dominating it? Genuinely curious
^ in bold because I actually want an answer to this

Dumb rule. You seem to be leaning towards a Graal that's more centered around like... a glorified fashion contest and 30 reskinned chance games where everyone just wins randomly because "everyone deserves a chance!"

You know this is a game that we're playing right?
Sorry that beating a bunch of noobs with 3 hours of total gameplay in sumo triggers you but it's not our fault that the way you hand out prizes is god awful.

Yeah, no I totally understand you. "Why are you being good at the game when it makes it difficult for me as a staff member to make decisions like: should I give him a different hat if he has this one already?"

Sumo is not chance. One requires actual understanding of this game and in the other you can do nothing and win. It's enough of a chance to actually get into one of these events, so you effectively telling us to stop playing them is ridiculous.

Oh my god...I'm not saying they should never ever be able to participate. I'm saying don't participate in an event where you already have the hat. Christ. I don't know how much more clear I can be. If it's the same event but a different hat then by all means, join and try to win! If you have the hat that an event is being hosted for, let other people try to win and wait until an event is being hosted with a different hat that you don't have yet! It's just a matter of being nice and letting others have a shot at winning before they don't have that chance anymore, is that so hard??

Considering I literally get to play 2 events every 6 months, no. I'm not going to actively subside my enjoyment of this game because you're incapable of coming up with a better reward and event system. If you believe something is broken then fix it. It's not up to the playerbase to stop themselves from having fun because you don't want them to win.

If you win an event you deserve a prize. If this extremely simple sentence still manages to confuse you then I don't know what else to say to you other than you've effectively proven my point that you believe this game should be chance.

So the person has played a lot and dedicated their time to getting good at events. I can understand where you're coming from in-terms of letting others have a chance, but I think it's also unfair to the person getting excluded. They've played a lot to become that good and it's all practice. Players, who aren't that good - can equally become as good if they practice. And also, events aren't always taking place. The person might just want to play due to boredom.

I think it's also rude and uncalled for that you called the person a jerk, just because he stated that he won two events and got different coloured hats. Also, I can't believe you think that just because a player is good at something, that would automatically make them a person who ruins the game for everyone else.

man i havent gotten into an event in 2years this guy gets into an event 2 time in a row wtf