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Strum 02-16-2017 04:30 PM

Coco's house renovation!
 
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Not all of you all probably interested but i find Coco's house is pretty cool so since it got re-opened i decided to make a thread about it.

She added a couple of empty rooms which she will probably add stuff in the futur
but the main room for the moment is the top room with a ball ring where you can jump in which.But the main thing IMO is that theirs a farm that has the same time of respawn of the grass like in Grotto which is awesome to farm @ but will probably get even more crowded in the future than Grotto.

LoX 02-16-2017 04:53 PM

Coco's House
 
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Last post messed up so I'm reposting it.

It seems odd that Coco's house can be ranked against other houses in the leader boards when it's a completely different level no one else can have and she can really add anything she wants to it.

Not here having a bitch, it just seems unfair to the people who put heaps of time, effort and money into making houses to be outranked by this.

Agonee 02-16-2017 04:55 PM

Yeah I think they should really fix the house rating leaderboards, the All Times can wait!

4-Lom 02-16-2017 05:03 PM

Well there's no prize for it... so it's just numbers.
I'd like to see some sort of 'All time likes' information somewhere in a player's profile in general... maybe an achievements or trophies tab that outlines what events they've won/placed in on the leaderboards... along with any previous accomplishments like the easter event... or candy grab at halloween... something to bring noteworthy feats and even just participation in the game to light in more than just pure numbers :)

Agonee 02-16-2017 05:06 PM

Lmao, f the all time house likes, get us some all time Pking Being and Sparring leaderboards back first

Dusty 02-16-2017 05:17 PM

No prize and used to find cool houses, I'm not sure of the problem?

Elk 02-16-2017 05:37 PM

im on cocos side, as long as she adds a little dog hut to her outside level with an "ELK" sign on it where a dog is sleeping in cute zeldaesque floating chains (like that black circle monster from zelda) that has a halo.

SomeGuy 02-16-2017 05:40 PM

Not comparable to Rufus' quest house.

4-Lom 02-16-2017 06:06 PM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 765343)
Not comparable to Rufus' quest house.

with the hat sales and all...

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Posted by Agonee (Post 765339)
Lmao, f the all time house likes, get us some all time Pking Being and Sparring leaderboards back first

All time bk's and pk's are in your status already?

Baddy kills... and kills?

Agonee 02-16-2017 06:32 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 765346)
with the hat sales and all...



All time bk's and pk's are in your status already?

Baddy kills... and kills?

You talked about house likes leaderboards and I replied that imo and prolly in most others too the PK AND BK ALL TIME are way more important than some house liking leaderboard

4-Lom 02-16-2017 06:38 PM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 765351)
You talked about house likes leaderboards and I replied that imo and prolly in most others too the PK AND BK ALL TIME are way more important than some house liking leaderboard

1.) I was referring to house likes (total) being added to profile.
2.) Baddy Kills and Player Kills have a (total) score viewable in profile.
3.) All are equally unimportant.
4.) Having an opinion is like having a religion*... it's great to have an opinion, it's ok to share it with some people now and then, but whipping it out at every opportunity and shoving it in people's faces is considered inappropriate and might get you into trouble in public.

*Read "****."

Reemas 02-16-2017 06:54 PM

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Posted by LoX (Post 765336)
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Last post messed up so I'm reposting it.

It seems odd that Coco's house can be ranked against other houses in the leader boards when it's a completely different level no one else can have and she can really add anything she wants to it.

Not here having a bitch, it just seems unfair to the people who put heaps of time, effort and money into making houses to be outranked by this.


I'd give Coco's house a thousand likes over any of those waste of time, money, and scam codeshops. All/most the top houses lack creativity and lack originality. Most of the top houses on the leaderboards are nothing but farming scams. I'm glad that top houses of the season gets no prize.

Agonee 02-16-2017 07:25 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 765353)
1.) I was referring to house likes (total) being added to profile.
*Read "****."

I don't think you're anyone that could judge or tell me what I could do and couldn't, whatsoever I don't need real life advice from an experienced role player lol, all I did was replying that for me and many others the ALL TIME "LEADERBOARDS" are more important than your personal house likes stats.

RyanB 02-16-2017 08:18 PM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 765343)
Not comparable to Rufus' quest house.

WHEN YOU BEAT THE ****MAZE OF HELL BUT THEN U REALIZE U HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PRIZE
WOWOWOOWOW

Red 02-16-2017 08:51 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 765353)
1.) I was referring to house likes (total) being added to profile.
2.) Baddy Kills and Player Kills have a (total) score viewable in profile.
3.) All are equally unimportant.
4.) Having an opinion is like having a religion*... it's great to have an opinion, it's ok to share it with some people now and then, but whipping it out at every opportunity and shoving it in people's faces is considered inappropriate and might get you into trouble in public.

*Read "****."

Has anyone told you before how seriously you take criticism and how dumb you look whenever you reply to it, if not I'm just letting you know.

LoX 02-17-2017 01:48 AM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 765357)
I'd give Coco's house a thousand likes over any of those waste of time, money, and scam codeshops. All/most the top houses lack creativity and lack originality. Most of the top houses on the leaderboards are nothing but farming scams. I'm glad that top houses of the season gets no prize.

So would I in all honesty.

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Posted by Dusty (Post 765340)
No prize and used to find cool houses, I'm not sure of the problem?

When I posted this I was thinking that it seemed harder for other people who were trying to create unique and creative houses to get higher rankings and get recognised for having really great houses, when you compare it to someone like Coco's house.

This thread can be deleted if need be, doesn't need to be here

4-Lom 02-17-2017 03:42 AM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 765367)
I don't think you're anyone that could judge or tell me what I could do and couldn't, whatsoever I don't need real life advice from an experienced role player lol, all I did was replying that for me and many others the ALL TIME "LEADERBOARDS" are more important than your personal house likes stats.

Are you even reading... Did you even read what I wrote before replying?

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Posted by Red (Post 765396)
Has anyone told you before how seriously you take criticism and how dumb you look whenever you reply to it, if not I'm just letting you know.

Did you read? Did you understand what that squid guy said? I was trying to clear up his fabricated issue and he came back all aggro talking about things I didn't write. Seriously... You guys have nothing better to do than make up stuff to be angry about?

Ethacon 02-17-2017 04:38 AM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 765343)
Not comparable to Rufus' quest house.

How exaclty do i find this? i cant find his profile in game

ihermes 02-17-2017 05:08 AM

is there a bar and bartender to go with it

4-Lom 02-17-2017 05:32 AM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 765499)
How exaclty do i find this? i cant find his profile in game

It had a couple instances of far-out stuff.
One was a halloween themed body sale.
Another was the 'zol's pub' toilet maze from back in the day.
There was also a nifty little yellow toque sold there at one point. :)

Rufus has lifted up his presence, though, from the game.

Areo 02-17-2017 06:06 AM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 765337)
Yeah I think they should really fix the house rating leaderboards, the All Times can wait!

Maybe this will help you? Honestly, I've never cared that they were removed. I PK for fun, not because "oh man I gotta pass <user> today!". Everyone does things differently, but if you're good enough you'll be known regardless... Leaderboard or no leaderboard.

Besides, CD's top 50 list does the job well enough.

on topic; amazing house. I pray that newer levels similar to that will be made available in those "house packs" dusty was talking about.

Sies 02-17-2017 06:09 AM

the ball pit is my favorite part ;)

Strum 02-17-2017 11:13 AM

Yo dun't hijack my thread about your leaderboards.Wére here to talk about Coco's house.





Noobs

LoX 02-17-2017 11:31 AM

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Posted by Strum (Post 765541)
Yo dun't hijack my thread about your leaderboards.Wére here to talk about Coco's house.





Noobs


I didn't hijack it, they got moved together, likely because they're about the same topic

SomeGuy 02-17-2017 12:27 PM

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Posted by RyanB (Post 765379)
WHEN YOU BEAT THE ****MAZE OF HELL BUT THEN U REALIZE U HAVE TO PAY FOR THE PRIZE

WOWOWOOWOW



That was the worst part ;(

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Posted by ethacon (Post 765499)
How exaclty do i find this? i cant find his profile in game



Yeah his account isn't on graal anymore. But I do remember there being a hat you could buy at the end with a crown on a wolf or whatever it was.

Agonee 02-18-2017 01:36 AM

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Posted by Areo (Post 765508)
Maybe this will help you? Honestly, I've never cared that they were removed. I PK for fun, not because "oh man I gotta pass <user> today!". Everyone does things differently, but if you're good enough you'll be known regardless... Leaderboard or no leaderboard.

Besides, CD's top 50 list does the job well enough..

Since most older PKers etc. Are prolly busy irl it's hard to keep up in seasonal boards, the all times boards still let us or at least me PK a bit daily to pass other players, I enjoy climbing leaderboards / slowly racing others without needing to spend my whole life in Graal.

Strum 02-18-2017 06:28 PM

Byw Coco's house has been removed from leaderboard for ya'll haters

EP 02-18-2017 07:32 PM

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Posted by Strum (Post 765823)
Byw Coco's house has been removed from leaderboard for ya'll haters

I would understand the need to remove her house if there was a reward or if the house leaderboard meant anything at all, but you cant please everyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Eugeen 02-18-2017 07:58 PM

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Posted by EP (Post 765831)
I would understand the need to remove her house if there was a reward or if the house leaderboard meant anything at all, but you cant please everyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It takes a spot from other people with regular houses so in a way it was unfair yes

I personally don't care though, Coco's house was nice

Reemas 02-19-2017 12:51 AM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 765832)
It takes a spot from other people with regular houses so in a way it was unfair yes

I personally don't care though, Coco's house was nice


What spot? All or most of the houses are code shops. It barely would have made a dent to the leaderboards. Unfair? Bunch of bs.

4-Lom 02-19-2017 04:20 AM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 765866)
What spot? All or most of the houses are code shops. It barely would have made a dent to the leaderboards. Unfair? Bunch of bs.

Yep. Crybabies. If anything, it gave some semblance of a standard to aim for and embarrassed those kids who just pump out the same layout for the tree house level with like 20-30 codes and run folks through 24/7 to rise to the top :P

Bryan* 02-19-2017 04:24 AM

He's referring to the fact she can manipulate the levels in her house. That's about it. No need to drag it a thousand posts.

Coco 02-19-2017 04:34 PM

It's not a big deal to me imo. Was never my intention to be on the leaderboards and I'm pretty sure the reason I was on them in the first place was because of the valentines event. Whenever I host an event everyone enters my house and i shoot up in the leaderboards. I don't really get why people got sour about that though considering I'm not taking anything away from them lol, but w/e. I just want to make some kind of perma-nexus kind of thing that players can enter and do different crap in and have fun. I actually plan on adding some spar rooms and whatever else comes to mind. With Dusty helping me i could make anything ;) (He's the one who made the ball pit balls for me)

Though I have to admit the current people on the leaderboards are extremely disappointing. Dusty and I often check them out because we want to see what players do with their houses and like every single one is a code shop of some kind. I don't even get how the current leader of the day/week/month/season is #1 when her house is just a code shop scam with parts that'll shove you back to the beginning so you have to do it all over again lol. wtf? How and why did so many people like that?

4-Lom 02-19-2017 04:59 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 765956)
...we want to see what players do with their houses and like every single one is a code shop of some kind. I don't even get how the current leader of the day/week/month/season is #1 when her house is just a code shop scam with parts that'll shove you back to the beginning so you have to do it all over again lol. wtf? How and why did so many people like that?

*Ahem*

People 'like' automatically in many cases. Just because there is a dearth of experienced players who recognize what goes into making a 'good' house (or are tired of codeshops and know where to get codes online), the players at the top of the leaderboard are the ones who advertise for longer hours in public places. Some players even have secondary accounts to direct flow from a smaller codeshop to a larger, main codeshop in order to garner more likes.

The simple reason, so far as I can tell, is that there is no incentive for players to NOT like a house immediately upon entry. There is no limit to the number of likes they can give out, and no benefit to liking a quality house with intricate design. I've found that designing my house layout actually LOSES likes over time, when compared to others who are on the board, because I am not standing out advertising or spamming invitations like other players.

In a way, this incentivizes making a crappy codeshop on a secondary account, spamming new players with invitations, and not changing up your layout, purely because there is money to be made from players wandering through the bushes in your house, and the higher on the list you are, the more people wander through. Funny how that works...

P.S. - My house has zero codes, and I'm in the top 50 for season <3

Sir Travis 02-19-2017 05:38 PM

All those useless afk mouths to feed drive me a little crazy. Code shop spam is damn thick and they specifically target new players coming off the boat from Balamb

It's one of the first things you'll see after the tutorial, just a mass of afk code shops and it doesn't represent graal classic too well. I hope to see codes phased out and replaced with the new "accessories" personally

Nice teamwork on the ball pit :)

Bryan* 02-19-2017 05:39 PM

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Posted by Sir Travis (Post 765965)
All those useless afk mouths to feed drive me a little crazy. Code shop spam is damn thick and they specifically target new players coming off the boat from Balamb

It's one of the first things you'll see after the tutorial, just a mass of afk code shops and it doesn't represent graal classic too well. I hope to see codes phased out and replaced with the new "accessories" personally

That entire strip is all Brazilians too

SomeGuy 02-19-2017 06:35 PM

Is it just me who has noticed sometimes the like button is covered by the item you would normally have in that item slot. Perhaps it could, to some extent, be blamed on this? I dunno, people want to use their items in houses i guess.

RyanB 02-19-2017 07:34 PM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 765974)
Is it just me who has noticed sometimes the like button is covered by the item you would normally have in that item slot. Perhaps it could, to some extent, be blamed on this? I dunno, people want to use their items in houses i guess.

OR, OR THE PPL USE BOTS TO BOT LIKES weew

Coco 02-19-2017 09:06 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 765960)
*Ahem*

People 'like' automatically in many cases. Just because there is a dearth of experienced players who recognize what goes into making a 'good' house (or are tired of codeshops and know where to get codes online), the players at the top of the leaderboard are the ones who advertise for longer hours in public places. Some players even have secondary accounts to direct flow from a smaller codeshop to a larger, main codeshop in order to garner more likes.

The simple reason, so far as I can tell, is that there is no incentive for players to NOT like a house immediately upon entry. There is no limit to the number of likes they can give out, and no benefit to liking a quality house with intricate design. I've found that designing my house layout actually LOSES likes over time, when compared to others who are on the board, because I am not standing out advertising or spamming invitations like other players.

In a way, this incentivizes making a crappy codeshop on a secondary account, spamming new players with invitations, and not changing up your layout, purely because there is money to be made from players wandering through the bushes in your house, and the higher on the list you are, the more people wander through. Funny how that works...

P.S. - My house has zero codes, and I'm in the top 50 for season <3

That really sucks :( The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.
http://i.imgur.com/MEMcZCD.png

slyde 02-19-2017 09:18 PM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 765974)
Is it just me who has noticed sometimes the like button is covered by the item you would normally have in that item slot. Perhaps it could, to some extent, be blamed on this? I dunno, people want to use their items in houses i guess.

This, the like button covers the top first of our actions and people are sometimes forced to click on it to use their bombs or whatever that was on that top button. Maybe, place the like button on the bottom middle, where the magnifying glass is located. I doubt this will fix the whole codeshop leaderboard thing, but it will help a little.

Strum 02-19-2017 09:29 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 765993)
That really sucks :( The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.
http://i.imgur.com/MEMcZCD.png

I wil maek a fashon sho four u nd doosty

Yonce 02-19-2017 09:56 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 765993)
That really sucks :( The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.
http://i.imgur.com/MEMcZCD.png

there are many cool houses that just arnt on the boards, probably because codeshops just promote so much more

EP 02-19-2017 09:59 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 765993)
That really sucks :( The whole purpose of house leaderboards and liking houses was to motivate more people to make cool houses and have the cool houses up at the top for people to see...wish we could think of way to fix that but I have 0 ideas that would work lol. It's really, really disappointing to only see code shops on the leaderboards...like dusty and I were really hoping to see people utilizing the fashion show furniture and making a cool catwalk and stuff, but nope...this makes me really sad. Especially when #1 is literally a f***king code shop scam. Kinda pees me off.
http://i.imgur.com/MEMcZCD.png

This is why i believe an actual rating system would be much better. The like system is based on quantity not quality but if we were able to rate a house from 1-10 and have the highest averaging house with a base minimum of ratings at the top we could weed out these terrible code shop scams and bring up the plenty of beautiful houses that exist on graal since there's no way for someone to force you to rate their house a 10.

LoX 02-19-2017 10:53 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 765956)
I don't really get why people got sour about that though considering I'm not taking anything away from them lol, but w/e.?

If that was aimed somewhat at me making this post, I want to clear up that I didn't make this thread to complain that you're house outranks the same codeshops repeated on the leaderboards, nor did I make this with the end goal being to see your house off the leaderboards. I made this post simply because I was talking with some friends and thought that it's unfair for people who put many hours and money into their houses (Not specifically codeshops, even though that's really all it is) to be outranked by a house with a level design that nobody else can have and I wanted to see if there was any reason to that.

Bryan's post shown below explains it better than I did in all honesty.

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 765889)
He's referring to the fact she can manipulate the levels in her house. That's about it. No need to drag it a thousand posts.


Jose Papp 02-19-2017 11:33 PM

I made a somewhat original house, no codes, no bushwalk people barely entered, even less liked it. So i closed it to friends only. 4-lom has been in there >0>

slyde 02-20-2017 12:56 AM

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Posted by Jose Papp (Post 766019)
I made a somewhat original house, no codes, no bushwalk people barely entered, even less liked it. So i closed it to friends only. 4-lom has been in there >0>

But, if you think about it, people are only there to: appreciate it for 10mins or less and never come back, hangout, or look for some "rare" codes to dress their avatars.

So there really isn't much incentives to staying in someone else's house, if it is just all design. Very similar to how the new updates like Castle is hyped for a few seconds then die down.

Red 02-20-2017 01:04 AM

every house besides the gh with a spar room is useless tbh

*waiting to trigger 4lom*
it will happen.

CM 02-20-2017 01:08 AM

nobody cares tbh

*waiting to trigger red*
it will happen.

Red 02-20-2017 01:12 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 766036)
nobody cares tbh

*waiting to trigger red*
it will happen.




I see your bait
https://www.jmrocketreporter.org/wp-.../11/Baited.jpg

4-Lom 02-20-2017 02:47 AM

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Posted by Coco (Post 765993)

I think I had mentioned it at the outset as a foreseeable issue.
Some things to consider might be

  • limiting the number of houses a player can like in a day
  • making it a 'rating' system instead of a 'like' system with a leaderboard
  • removing shield/sword graphics as displayable in furniture pieces
  • only allowing VIP members to register on the leaderboard (or take part in the 'like' system)
  • add the word "House" to the swear filter (lol)
  • re-instate the annoying idle warp, but to extremely distant locations
  • remove the ability to lock down bushes


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