Thoughts on new trade house
 

I honestly think it sucks zc isnt tradeable now cost of table and accepting is higher.

Not sure what made admins decide to change this. Playercount went from 400 -180 real quick


What yall think

Srry of thread about trade house already made

Wow, never would I expect ZCs to be untradeable right now, as it is used to be the main trading currency for weapons and items. o_o

Well in a way this is a good idea because Zone coins were stupid to begin with. I would rather just keep it to Gralats which isn't a confusing currency like Zone coins and how you have to go out of your way to farm them rather than just buy Gralats.

Ye blackfire made a dumb choice they are tryna make graalium the main currency in zone

Kind of stupid that people wanted zc gone because low hour players were getting items like railgun however most of those players got their zc from trading. After they get an item they want to make sure other people dont get it.

If zone coin was never meant to be the main currency on zone then why make it tradeable from day one. We were given no notice when the trade was going to close.

I agree it should've been removed, but done in a more organized way. Should've been announced ahead of time so people can get rid of them, its really not fair to people who have tons of them. Hopefully there can be some kind of conversion done. Idk if they plan to add more stuff to the zc shop either, but i think that idea should be done with a new start. As for increasing the trade prices: wtf? -.-

Sorry if I'm a little outdated, but wasn't Tashkin the one responsible for making the Trading Center in the first place? Maybe it was just a clash of different ideas, since the Manager of Zone has been constantly changing last year, from Tashkin to Chelt and then to I don't know who right now, Blackfire I guess?

TBF they needed to destroy zcoins being used as a currency there is a ridiculous amount in circulation...majority of what people have arn't off missions or showdown but selling there old stuff and hats.Players literally wouldn't even buy gralat packs as they knew even with holiday items out they could grab them for reasonable amount of zcoins-That did need to stop..Graal is still a business and zone probably doesn't earn that much anyway hence why they made trash selling lower ages ago, so I'm all for zcoins removal in trade center makes players have to earn them for the eventshop stuff. Oh they increased prices of tables aswell? hmm not sure about that should keep the same so deals still actually happen

Would like someone to explain what happened/changed, also why the prices changed?

I don't think the ZC issue is permanent. Either it will become tradable again with the expectation to remove it soon after, or it will be removed completely and players will be reimburced - granted, probably not very well, nor should they really be reimburced well anyways. Or they might just plan on adding a new set of items in the ZC shop with severely overpriced tags in order to drain the economy. Anyways, I don't think the ZC issue is permanent. Something's going to happen in the future with them.

As for trading prices, I think it's a good idea to make you pay a fairly substantial amount in order to even rent a table. That gets rid of people hogging tables for no reason, and it actually allows them to make VIP more useful by offering discounts that may be worth it for those who trade a lot.

Let's rehire Tay, he can't trade millions of ZPs anymore. : - )

The removal of ZC was good, but they did it in a really bad way.

First of all, they should have given us a 2 week warning or so that Zc was going to be removed from Trades. That way people can use their ZC and be ok with it.

Second, a NPC should've been put somewhere so that you can trade ZC for graalium. I wouldnt know the ratios, but it shouldve been implemted. EDIT: Just checked, glad they added one

Lastly, the increased cost. WTF! Why was there ANY demand to add this. Trading in places like Era and West will only cost you like around 21 gralats. 100 gralats was already expensive enough, IDK what it is now because I havent checked yet, but this was something that should not have been changed at all. If anything it shouldve been lowered.

Zone has had no control over its own economy and that has caused players to have massive amounts of gralats in a dysfunctional economy. This was obviously done to balance everything out more. The problems are for the players who haven't exploited the **** out of Zone's ****ty economy are left in the dust. They can't afford trading a lot with those prices. You can see the attempt to balance out the economy by making weapon prices 25k gralats now, along with the mounts being 55k gralats. Weapons used to be 7777 gralats for all guns and melees. That price was good because the economy wasn't ****ed up like it is now. Honestly, just as I had been saying for a while now, we're moving to era-ranged prices on everything in Zone, or even higher.

The new trade house and why it's bad.
 

1. I hate tight spaces, and you can't sell as well because there's small rooms and you can't ready other other people's texts.

2. We're copying era,

They did so many things wrong that anyone that has played zone and has knowledge of zone would be able to make a better tradehouse. If I had the knowledge id be able to.l do a way better job.

Wtf, just to rent it's $50
Also, wtf is this @LAT and GFX. It looks nice but who tf puts random ass crashed spaceships in a flee market?
http://i.imgur.com/YyEpHEM.png

There should be $0 towards rent and it should cost $20 gralats to trade with someone when accepting.

Couldn't they just remove zc from the normal trade house

50g for renting a table is actually a good idea. It prevents table hoggers.

No, what if I rent tables on a daily basis 10-20 times? Rip gralats.

Yes yes.

exactly. Don't.

I wouldn't but for people who trade a lot it will be a problem.

They should've kept it all on the same floor tho, cuz it makes it easier to find and make sales since you can still keep your table while looking around. Now you either miss sales or have to spend more money to get them. This wasn't thought out well.

the point is to stop people from hogging tables so people can actually use them to trade.

I wasn't involved with the trade house changing at all, but I assume the reason that it was changed from a GMAP into singular levels was to prevent NPCs from glitching out by changing into other ones, making some tables unusable.
That's just speculation, though.

At this point we're all preaching to the choir aren't we?

ZC should've been removed. Period. I'll always be grateful for being brought up in a time while they were around, however, they broke the game. This being said, SUCH POOR TRANSITION! I now have 400ZC... and I own every ZC item and hat already. Like... Wot am I supposed to do? What are the pr0s with 100K ZC supposed to do? Like you really screwed up your more veteran and experienced players, who Zone needs to keep happy far more than the new ones.

A nice "hey, everyone trade in ZC for Graalium at the XXXXXX shop!" would've been nice. Or even put out a ZC auction to give le pr0s one last given oppurtunity. Really though, there was no thought into this transition. Suck on my left foot.

Another thing, SMH they increased the table price. Like I do get the logic of simply not having table hogs. I think that's a brilliant idea, and I always supported the first 4 main tables in the old trade house being VIP only for that reason. But now it's just ridiculous. 50G for a table and then 150 for the transfer? I'll agree with Pig on here and say that 50G isn't a lot and it isn't that big of a deal and it helps reduce hoggers... except that it doesn't. Given the cooldown, the monetary value doesn't really do that. Like people were complaining about the trading prices, many wanted them lower or for VIP to be given more perks(I even suggested making ZC the cost)... But none of that was ever taken into consideration, was it? A large amount of players did speak their opinion about the trades before the change, and it seems like nobodies ideas were even read. Why have a subforum for suggestions if nothing is ever put in? I'm not angry at the 200g price, I'm upset. How does Zone expect people to be trading in Graalium when each trade is now roughly 20 graaliums itself? Honestly, this is even worse than Era's 100000k gun price points. I mean, how do they expect people to be getting this money? Jobs pay absolute trash, and nobody in their right minds is ever going to pay more than 1K worth of gralats for graalium since it'd be a loss of more than twice the value. Like fr, nonsense.

Lastly, smh. Tf is this layout? If you're making it vertical, admit defeat and at least bring back the old trade house with side rooms too. Like fr. Also, why does every room have VIP tables? Like that's just annoying, and if the cause is to get players to buy VIP, nobody will. Still more convenient to just find an open one.

Also, remove those statues. We all know jack poop is coming.

Changing the trade house into several different levels is a bad bad idea.

I dont mind that ZC cant be traded, but thats because I didnt have many, I feel bad for those who had a huge amount.

Uh... no they're not.

Explain to me why they now have stations to buy them within trades? And that description... Hmmm.

It's actually very evident that they're pushing towards a more gralat based community and that's derived from Graaliums.

Jokes on them, Imma start trading kazoos. Selling 10000 Kazoos for red dragon mount!

I haven't seen the description but I don't see how that makes it the main currency.

I love the secret room:blush:

Soon.

idk if ur trolling or not

Buyable Graalium- A great alternative for Gralats in the trade house.

ZC was never told to be a trading tool. It just was. Despite how screwed up our system was, I was always happy that it was player rooted. Ever since the "buyable graalium" was added with Chelt as manager, it's so evident that they're now trying to uproot the system of trades, the only one the player have ever had direct control over. I mean it's all fine and dandy doing the essential things, like ZC did have to go, but they never make actions thinking about the players and trades is a key piece of that. Even realistically, brokers, banks, and the real estate market all get heads up from the government when something affecting their businesses is about to come about, and it's obnoxious how Zone has never done this. Rippers nerfed, no insight whatsoever. Stingray buffed, no insight whatsoever. Jetpacks nerfed hella quickly from 90 to 0, not even told until after the change. Like I don't think that Zone has any rights whatsoever to regulate trade PRICES or even affect them without headsight. Like tax the tables, sure, but don't ruin it for the actual traders who ONLY trade since that's a solid 20% of us. I've put myself into that mode where I forget what I write after I type it down so I hope this all flows somewhat well, but fr, Zone needs to stop trying to push it's way into the trades. Like most people know I'm hella liberal on the social scene, but keep yur darn paws off de money people actually worked hard for. Like I was once able to say Omar was the richest Zonian I know... a month ago. Now it's probably Taco who just a month ago had like 20 zc but had like 20K of graalium. Like fr, ticks me, and everyone else, off when they make these lousy changes which never seem to actually benefit the majority of players in the slightest bit.

Ew, what did I say about teasing us?

Not a troll** it's just a prank, bro. git rekkkkt.

So?

All the player run economy did was cause inflation

I was joking yeah, I don't even play Zone :P

me either really, that's why I didn't know

There used to be so many Traders in the Trade House, now since this update, the amount of traders has deteriorated.

+ As I said before, I prefer the previous style of the Trade House.

that's good. that's like saying:

Just because not as many people are trading 24/7 doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It's actually good. Trading was the life of Zone, but it shouldn't be.

hey weeno I saw you viewing this thread
imo it is great

Ehhh not really

The staff's decisions caused the inflation and terrible trading economy. Zonians are only players in the system. The management screwed up ZC, plus the poor event hat management along with poor auction management caused all of it. Players are players and just adapted to the poorly staff-run economy.

I like it

Offers on 187k graaliums.