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SomeGuy 01-19-2017 07:46 AM

New enemy areas
 
They've added as far as i know one new area for baddies to spawn, starting off with the rebel baddies:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3afd79e603.jpg

Its next to nafets/ river hat shop and there is 4 rooms i think with about 6 chests containing gralats in them.

Post other baddy areas as they come out below!

EP 01-19-2017 12:52 PM

Should probably make that room a no pk area like pyrat cave was.

Honen 01-19-2017 02:12 PM

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Posted by EP (Post 757764)
Should probably make that room a no pk area like pyrat cave was.

^^^

Meteor 01-19-2017 10:37 PM

I noticed Rebel Soldiers spawning in front of Sards. Not right in front of the tower, but if you jump down that cliff out front, they're there.

Colin 01-19-2017 10:38 PM

There is also rebel soldiers on the way to Snow Town on one of the cliffs, guessing they will be randomly placed in areas all around Graal.

https://i.gyazo.com/4dfd15811cc2858a...b6e9a83ea8.png

Meteor 01-19-2017 10:52 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 757928)
There is also rebel soldiers on the way to Snow Town on one of the cliffs, guessing they will be randomly placed in areas all around Graal.

https://i.gyazo.com/4dfd15811cc2858a...b6e9a83ea8.png

I think the rebel banners are a nice touch. The one in that picture seems to be sort of messed up though.

Perseus 01-19-2017 11:03 PM

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Posted by Meteor (Post 757931)
I think the rebel banners are a nice touch. The one in that picture seems to be sort of messed up though.

I think the green is supposed to be like "Aye maties! We're green, so we took a sharpie and made our banner green too!"

Dusty 01-19-2017 11:18 PM

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Posted by Meteor (Post 757931)
I think the rebel banners are a nice touch. The one in that picture seems to be sort of messed up though.

https://i.imgur.com/l1iH1tm.png

It's their "logo" which is a crescent sort of shape.

Meteor 01-19-2017 11:50 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 757939)
https://i.imgur.com/l1iH1tm.png

It's their "logo" which is a crescent sort of shape.

Oh, I didn't even realize they have that on their head. I knew the green bit was intentional though, I just didn't realize it was meant to be drawn over the castle banner like that. I guess it makes sense though, they took castle banners and drew their mark on them.

Weeno 01-20-2017 04:05 AM

What happened to the old name "baddies" are they still at balamb? Baddies = qt

Ethacon 01-21-2017 02:41 PM

Are there any new areas for other baddies other than rebels yet?

Reemas 01-21-2017 04:39 PM

I noticed the spawn rate for snakes has increased at Big City. That was much needed.

Noxious 01-21-2017 04:46 PM

There are also 2 new islands at Big City that contain snakes, they aren't displayed on the map (yet?) though

SomeGuy 01-21-2017 08:04 PM

New enemy areas
 
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0d5423453b.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...eab1ce2396.jpg

Snake islands at big city.

KristenGW 01-21-2017 09:42 PM

Have new areas been made for black blobs and spiders yet?

Ethacon 01-21-2017 10:40 PM

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Posted by Noxious (Post 758454)
There are also 2 new islands at Big City that contain snakes, they aren't displayed on the map (yet?) though

The maps have not been updated since the snowtown slide was removed...

SomeGuy 01-21-2017 10:47 PM

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Posted by KristenGW (Post 758531)
Have new areas been made for black blobs and spiders yet?



Not that i know of...if it has then its probably in the railroad caves.

SomeGuy 01-22-2017 10:17 AM

GIANT NEW AREA JUST ABOVE THE MAP:

Get to it via MoD, Onnet forest, and straight above graal city.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...78133ae8a0.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...168786debc.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...05dd894702.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fa0aba6e19.jpg

The boat only goes to Big City.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...72f7bd6f13.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b9397c7874.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b2e2da6a8b.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...00972a0188.jpg

The rocks in the cave wont be blown up by a bomb.

Dusty 01-24-2017 01:20 AM

Big City Caldera seems to have experienced some recent volcanic activity.

Thallen 01-24-2017 01:32 AM

https://puu.sh/txxKn/909054c0be.jpg
https://puu.sh/txxL5/a6a0fe1816.jpg
https://puu.sh/txxMf/2b6bb55eab.jpg

Galen Verge 01-24-2017 01:54 AM

Wow. This is what we need! More just "spaces"

Reemas 01-24-2017 05:58 AM

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Posted by Galen Verge (Post 759376)
Wow. This is what we need! More just "spaces"

Seriously? Complaining? Difficult to be little thankful? It's not just spaces. This is an expansion and a much needed one to go along with the current update. I for one would rather have this than to see more players complaining about having their baddie kills stolen.

Ethacon 01-24-2017 02:27 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 759472)
Seriously? Complaining? Difficult to be little thankful? It's not just spaces. This is an expansion and a much needed one to go along with the current update. I for one would rather have this than to see more players complaining about having their baddie kills stolen.

^^This^^

Also, I'm looking forward to the new bandit and cave blob areas. Maybe when bats and crabs are re-added they can get some new areas too.

McCullough 01-24-2017 02:32 PM

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Posted by Galen Verge (Post 759376)
Wow. This is what we need! More just "spaces"

Well, looks like someone got a baddy's sword stuck up their ass checking out the new spaces yeye.

Ethacon 01-24-2017 02:35 PM

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Posted by McCullough (Post 759551)
Well, looks like someone got a baddy's sword stuck up their ass!

Lol, it's true I saw it happen he ran off crying


Jk never even saw him in-game.

4-Lom 01-24-2017 03:02 PM

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Posted by Galen Verge (Post 759376)
Wow. This is what we need! More just "spaces"

There's a random caved-in door way there.

Dusty 01-24-2017 04:01 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 759565)
There's a random caved-in door way there.

Depending on how in-demand the Lizardon's are for bounties it may be expanded even more. However most of the new baddy area aren't exactly overrun with players.

Ethacon 01-24-2017 05:12 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 759588)
Depending on how in-demand the Lizardon's are for bounties it may be expanded even more. However most of the new baddy area aren't exactly overrun with players.

Hm, yeah their kind of nice and calm I like it that way.

KristenGW 01-24-2017 05:15 PM

This is really cool. Is there any story at the lizardons known for having invaded Destiny being in the big city volcano caves? Whatever possible backstory it's nice to have more areas to kill them for the bounty quest

Eugeen 01-24-2017 05:35 PM

Legend says the Lizardons are from an ancient old civilization that used to live near volcano's.
They say the reason for that was their resistance to heat so as being the only known heat resistant lifeforms in this world they lived there to keep enemies away.

It wasn't until the humans started advancing and took over the areas near volcano's to use the vulcanic soil to grow their crops as it has a lot of minerals which greatly benefits plantlife.
A lot of Lizardons lost their lives to these advanced humans and some fled.

Until recently recently the only knowledge of their existance we had came from drawings and stories we found on a new island that was discovered.
Because they made a return we do know a bit more about them though.
Thy seem to have missed out on a lot of what happened in the outside world and are therefore still aggressive to other lifeforms.
It does seem like the stories we heard about were through though as they still prefer to stay near volcanic areas when possible.

When boredom strikes

Dusty 01-24-2017 05:44 PM

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Posted by KristenGW (Post 759606)
This is really cool. Is there any story at the lizardons known for having invaded Destiny being in the big city volcano caves? Whatever possible backstory it's nice to have more areas to kill them for the bounty quest

Most baddies in Graal way back were just sprinkled around anywhere without much reason. Lizardons were just stronger versions of the soldiers and had no actual plot purpose. They didn't even breath fire, that was a variation of the bow soldier called a dragon that breathed fire. See here:
http://i.imgur.com/GQnHjsV.gif

It wasn't until Destiny was created that the lizardons got tied to any sort of plot purpose. They were just stronger enemies, so you'd see them practically anywhere they wanted a challenge. However Lizardon's seem to prefer caves so it's not impossible that they burrowed their way from the Volcano of Big City Destiny!

Yog 01-24-2017 06:15 PM

im a gold warrier!!

KristenGW 01-24-2017 07:00 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 759612)
Most baddies in Graal way back were just sprinkled around anywhere without much reason. Lizardons were just stronger versions of the soldiers and had no actual plot purpose. They didn't even breath fire, that was a variation of the bow soldier called a dragon that breathed fire. See here:
http://i.imgur.com/GQnHjsV.gif

It wasn't until Destiny was created that the lizardons got tied to any sort of plot purpose. They were just stronger enemies, so you'd see them practically anywhere they wanted a challenge. However Lizardon's seem to prefer caves so it's not impossible that they burrowed their way from the Volcano of Big City Destiny!



It's interesting to see more of the specific back stories to baddies and npcs and such. Thanks!

Jose Papp 01-24-2017 07:32 PM

I hadn't seen the lizardons on the volcano

I'll check em out when possible

TeK 01-24-2017 08:48 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 759612)

Why don't we have colored soldiers anymore? I think some variety would be neat.

Ethacon 01-24-2017 09:08 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 759653)
Why don't we have colored soldiers anymore? I think some variety would be neat.

In the graal editor there is red baddies, blue baddies, golden baddies, and also grey ones. It's just pointless to remake those for iClassic like they did with the lizardons. (the spiders don't look they were redone), Also the frog baddies are referenced by a furniture item in the server.

Dusty 01-24-2017 09:45 PM

You can now find a cave of dark blobs in the railsystem. It's somewhat small, but given the amount of dark blobs in the rest of the railsystem and the lack of frequency the rest of the new baddy areas have gotten I'm not exactly sure it's necessary to make it larger.

But if there are complaints I can expand.

BTW if people haven't realized, cave-ins were never intended to be able to be blown up. They have always represented caves that can't be accessed. It's the cracked walls you're looking for, I see a lot of players constantly try to blow up caved-in entrances.

Galen Verge 01-24-2017 10:26 PM

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Posted by Reemas (Post 759472)
Seriously? Complaining? Difficult to be little thankful? It's not just spaces. This is an expansion and a much needed one to go along with the current update. I for one would rather have this than to see more players complaining about having their baddie kills stolen.

Nononononon. I mean it. It doesn't feel like it's exportable and such, I was being genuine we need more random things to help add depth.

Ethacon 01-24-2017 10:27 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 759671)
You can now find a cave of dark blobs in the railsystem. It's somewhat small, but given the amount of dark blobs in the rest of the railsystem and the lack of frequency the rest of the new baddy areas have gotten I'm not exactly sure it's necessary to make it larger.

But if there are complaints I can expand.

BTW if people haven't realized, cave-ins were never intended to be able to be blown up. They have always represented caves that can't be accessed. It's the cracked walls you're looking for, I see a lot of players constantly try to blow up caved-in entrances.


it is really hilarious to see all the nubs wasting their bombs on those.

Galen Verge 01-24-2017 10:28 PM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 759549)
^^This^^

Also, I'm looking forward to the new bandit and cave blob areas. Maybe when bats and crabs are re-added they can get some new areas too.

I see how it could be taken as sarcasm, I actually do think this adds a lot of depth into Graal and more areas to explore.

Ethacon 01-24-2017 10:28 PM

Also is a draisine needed to get to the new dark blob cave? I just got ubanned on my main so I have one anyways but I might actually get on my alt every once in a while which does not have one.

Dusty 01-24-2017 10:29 PM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 759689)
Also is a draisine needed to get to the new dark blob cave? I just got ubanned on my main so I have one anyways but I might actually get on my alt every once in a while which does not have one.

None of the new areas will need items to get into.

Ethacon 01-24-2017 10:33 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 759690)
None of the new areas will need items to get into.

Alright, so I assume it's in the cave that used to connect to graal city or one of those other underground places that don't need the cart?

SomeGuy 01-24-2017 10:42 PM

New enemy areas
 
The new dark blob area:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e86f6866bf.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f5a81de348.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f69d0efb09.jpg

Its pretty cool.

Good job putting the cave near the railsystem pedestal! Gives me an even better reason for having it there!

Ethacon 01-24-2017 10:42 PM

Does that place not require a draisine?

Noxious 01-25-2017 12:02 AM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 759699)
Does that place not require a draisine?

There is now a set of stairs on the lower cliff side near the water

Ethacon 01-25-2017 01:42 AM

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Posted by Noxious (Post 759721)
There is now a set of stairs on the lower cliff side near the water

ah ok, I didn't notice.

LiA 01-25-2017 03:54 AM

Does anyone know how I can access the Lizardon area in Big City? If I drop my bounty, then it won't carry on through to the other side but if I don't drop it, then I can't use flippers to get to the other side lol.. ?_?

4-Lom 01-25-2017 06:52 AM

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Posted by LiA (Post 759784)
Does anyone know how I can access the Lizardon area in Big City? If I drop my bounty, then it won't carry on through to the other side but if I don't drop it, then I can't use flippers to get to the other side lol.. ?_?

Yeah kinda odd, eh?

I'm not sure that dropping bounty box in house is intuitive (or functioning correctly). If we need to use items to get to the lizardon place (flippers) it's kind of imperative that we collectively know how to drop the box in house and re-obtain it later.

Reemas 01-25-2017 12:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by LiA (Post 759784)
Does anyone know how I can access the Lizardon area in Big City? If I drop my bounty, then it won't carry on through to the other side but if I don't drop it, then I can't use flippers to get to the other side lol.. ?_?

As long as you're close enough, you can call the box to you. I dropped the box closest to the volcano, took the dive, got to top, and called my box. It worked and I did my Lizardon quest.


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