Why are people complaining?
 

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They want back pyrat bay, but its literally the same thing with a different variety, and you dont have to do it in a cramped cave.

They always want new content, but when they get it they complain about it. Also, I find it a bit funny about 80% have around 200 hours...

That's how it works. Invest hundred of hours working on something, release it and players still find ways to decrease the value of your voluntary work.

Imo everything they have done to prepare for castle is "A" OK

Admittedly right now bounties aren't as fast as pyrats were so I can understand their annoyance. Over the next says there will be more baddy killing areas and bounties will be balanced.

Rats are generally found in sewers, so it wouldn't be a crime to place them in an area like this

http://i.imgur.com/aFjJmQp.png

I doubt that Nintendo could do anything about it

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda03/...ugh/01/018.png

I think the main reason people are against this update is because of change. It's pretty normal for this intial response, just look at Valve's CS:GO and TF2. Both have gone through big updates over the last year or so and both communities have reacted in a similar way.

CS:GO added the new sounds for each weapon to 'modernise' the game to compete against other newer titles, but the community were quite unhappy with the changes (me personally I didn't like them either at first but wouldn't have gone on a rant about them, now that I've adjusted I'm good with it all and I understand Valve's reasoning behind the change). The one downside is, for whatever reason, Valve decided to add sounds by each weapon type across a series of updates which prolonged people being annoyed.

A similar thing happened with TF2 when they added the new competitive mode. Despite it being something the community knew was going to be added years in advance, there was still a backlash as it didn't really match the community's expectations. Months later there wasn't a lot of fixes relating to the update and overall people felt it was still unbalanced.

In conclusion, Valve made two poor choices when it came to implementing these updates, firstly they added the updates with CS:GO across a time period when the community's reaction was already negative and secondly they added a completely new feature to TF2 and didn't really address the community's suggestions on how to make it better. We already know that the devs are working on balancing out the issues the community has brought up so I think it will only be a matter of time before the complaining will all stop. At this stage it's just the initial shock of the game changing!

I also find that as a new player to Graal, I was somewhat startled by the changes - Pyrats are all I've known in my short time on the game and I got into the pattern of getting those eye patches every night. It's definitely going to take a while to get use to doing another quest compared to the Pyrat quest but I welcome the change! :)

The only way I personally excuse removing the Pyrat Bay daily quest is if it was removed because it was creating server lag by forcing tons of people in a small number of levels, if it was removed for any other reason then I see it as a negative overall

They're essentially the same quest. A daily reward for killing baddies... It's redundant and would in essence allow players to do the pyrat quest twice a day.

Well, it's only redundant because you chose to make the Castle daily quest relate to baddies! There were other ways to approach it, right? Why not:

• Kill 100 players in MoD Town
• Kill 75 players in Swamptown

That sort of thing. Or it could have dealt with bugs, or anything other than baddies to kind of spread the love around to other activities. I do agree that this quest is functionally way better than the Pyrat quest, but I was hopeful that something could have been added rather than replacing something that already exists.

I don't think people are complaining though, maybe just upset because they were looking forward to another daily quest so that they have more repeatable stuff to invest their time in rather than chatting and whatnot.

I believe you mean we removed it because of lag.

You're getting tired, hoss. Take it easy.

What lag?

How do you make it so people don't boost in pvp based activities, and cash in rewards much faster?

Only way I could see them doing something like this, is if they were to lower the rewards, and each activity gives you a set amount based on difficulty.

Would be cool to have things like spar 25x, pk 25x, bk 25x, bugs 25x, etc.
People would do the quests, and their daily quest limit would amount up to 1000g in rewards. Could be cool, and would probably prevent people from being able to boost for a quick 1k.


I do agree that the activities should be spread out more, this was probably just a start, maybe. They would definitely have to test it, because sparring has been pretty dead for a long time. On some occasions, like on weekends, there is an increase, but not as much as there is for pve.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it would be difficult for players to win at least 10 spars (Especially if they were to add a "novices only" room. If they aren't good enough for it, then they will miss out on the portion of the 1k total daily gralats. Everything else should be fairly easier, since it's more of a grinding process.

You can add Player killing bounties.. Given by the executioner. 200-500 gralats reward wouldn't hurt , or like 100 gralats every 200 player kills (and make this quest repeatable) idk just throwing in some ideas

Unique playerkillcounts, or maybe 1 person can just amount for 2-5 or something

I'm thinking maybe the castle relates all around baddie killing, perhaps other updates will revolve around other things like bug catching and whatnot once the new guild system is up. Just a thought

I for one like the change, but i will say that it takes a lot longer to complete now. well... I've only done the "kill 40 ambush baddies" and "kill 50 lizard dudes" and both have taken over an hr. Whereas, the pyrats took me 30mins, tops. Hopefully the hype dies down because i keep getting frustrated with the KSing. Ill just be farming over 1k/hr at my GH for now until it does. -_-

Dusty will be adding more baddies and balancing the amounts required over the next few days.

yay!

Just ask them what's wrong with the update, then slap them withcommon sense and facts and they will change their minds

some people are complaining theres no explaination for why tristam suddenly returned xD which in short kinda should be included

My one complaint is that my bounty contract expired even though I still had 20 hrs to finish. Kinda sucks because I had just a few more baddies to kill. Not sure if anyone else has had the same issue.

There was pretty much no point to baddies that weren't convenient for leaderboard use or weren't pyrats, so what's wrong with the bounty system revolving around baddies? People already do things like pk, spar, and catch bugs. I'd rather see something that wasn't being put to use given purpose. Baddies were just there as a slight annoyance while traversing the map, now they're used.

Seems like he's certainly been thru a lot. He's awful quiet.

People BK just as much as they spar or PK - all three leaderboards are competitive every season, and there was already a practical use for baddies in the Pyrat Bay quest and farming in general (gralats, maps, etc.)

I don't think anyone questions that this implementation of a baddy-killing quest is better than the Pyrat Bay one, I just think it would have been better to keep Pyrat Bay and use the Castle's daily quest for another activity so that players have options… or keep the Castle quest and turn Pyrat Bay into a place where you get a daily spar or PK quest

Trust me, ive done that more than I can count

we will be revamping pyrat bay in a big booty update in the future

What if he's an imposter!?

He does not look at all similar to the Original King Tristam so technically either tristam got REALLY OLD or its an imposter

Any targeted year/season/month?

i see what you did there. xD

i mean it's obvious

I like it. It spreads people out quite a bit for the bounty, and you gave a reason for players to visit inactive areas, but stealing is a factor and it doesn't help with the android freezing. Some baddies are annoying and take forever to kill, especially with others around competing. Some of the bounties, if not most of mine sometimes, are not worth 1k gralats at all.

Lizardons, Bomies(Spiders), Snakes, Rats, Blobs, and Crabs just make for a painfully lengthy and annoying bounty with many people reaching for their bounty as well. More baddy areas would definitely help, as well as increased rewards for the bounties.

50-100 Lizardons is not worth the time and "1000" gralats. Maybe 2500-4000 bounty because of their difficulty to kill. Lizardons are supposed to be these fierce and brutal baddies, make the bounty worth it.

Snakes are hard to come by now that there is a reason to actually kill them. Like the Lizardons, you can't kill them head on, which makes them another weird and difficult-to-kill baddy. Maybe 1500-2000 for a bounty, and (I hate to say it) Maybe increase their spawn rate and add more around for everyone.

Adding a baddy to snowtown would be helpful and interesting. We're all thinking of a yeti-baddy or something. This would give snowtown another purpose, since it will be involved with the bounties and contracts by having another baddy to have to kill.

Catching bugs as a bounty is great, but I think there needs to be a fix for the 75Spiders or 50Bees contracts that I saw. No one can do that in 24hours. Besides, there is already a place to sell your bugs, so might as well remove it so we don't make the witch obsolete.

Or they just wanted to see something different because it's a different server.

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