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SewerRat 12-27-2016 09:47 PM

new website finished
 
For the most part its done still working on some finishing touches and havent even started the analytics yet even though its got 12k views since 11/21/16.
So im looking for some feedback on the guide section
1)is it easy to understand even as a new player
2)constructive advise is welcome (your a idiot is not constructive)
3)is there anything else recomended to add?
Website link
Http://graaldrdetroit.com

Alexmo 12-27-2016 09:58 PM

Is there ads on it yet you need it to make profit

SewerRat 12-27-2016 10:01 PM

No there will never be ads. With it having most of era on the site i have to keep it ad free so it falls into the fair use laws of the USA. I know i really havent posted on this forum but ive been in the shadows for years lol. Hope you all enjoy the site.


PS: spread it around cuz staff on erago and in game are doing there best to shut me down.

mithos 12-27-2016 10:29 PM

Maybe not post customs you don't have permission to post? I see some personals and there. Preferably just don't post heads/bodies on your site.

edit : After going through more pages, it seems you literally posted customs made by other people, and the reason why it's been removed from era-go is probably because it's basically an ifile site.

SewerRat 12-27-2016 10:52 PM

Quote:

Posted by mithos (Post 751615)
Maybe not post customs you don't have permission to post? I see some personals and there. Preferably just don't post heads/bodies on your site.

edit : After going through more pages, it seems you literally posted customs made by other people, and the reason why it's been removed from era-go is probably because it's basically an ifile site.

Yes ive gone through the fact that it may upset some players that there head/body that was uploaded is on the site but it is no longer a players once its on the "servers" it belongs to the game. And have come to the conclusion that it will benifite the community as a whole having them on there.

As for the erago thing its a single staff that can not get over things in the past and still holds a grudge.

mithos 12-27-2016 11:00 PM

Quote:

Posted by SewerRat (Post 751627)
Yes ive gone through the fact that it may upset some players that there head/body that was uploaded is on the site but it is no longer a players once its on the "servers" it belongs to the game. And have come to the conclusion that it will benifite the community as a whole having them on there.

As for the erago thing its a single staff that can not get over things in the past and still holds a grudge.

How exactly is it benefiting the server? You're discouraging people to make personal customs by putting stuff like that.

Yog 12-27-2016 11:07 PM

So you're the one who posted these on my site
https://i.gyazo.com/53072d4f666a61b0...e596c4867d.png
https://i.gyazo.com/556e69519cbeee64...502855f581.png

You're lucky I lost access to the wordpress account years ago : )

(not sure how you can claim taylorrichaards was outdated)

Bram- 12-27-2016 11:21 PM

Ah u wanna gain ur popularity out of other people their work without getting their permission.

Nah man nah

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SewerRat 12-27-2016 11:24 PM

@yog Lol yeah i have a few minions dropping links all over the web. As for taylors being outdated it very much so is. Its missing hundreds of shield codes and i dont agree with the site host making a player email a code to themself in order to get the code. My site has almost every public shield with the code freely available. (Some codes have been added since ive been in game)

Yog 12-27-2016 11:28 PM

your username is fitting

carry on

SewerRat 12-27-2016 11:33 PM

@mithos im not concerned about the server im concered about the player community.
It should not discurage anyone to create as the heads/bodies are in game and freely available. The same could be said about any personal gfx site. Players are going to do what they are going to do.

@bram actually i could care less about popularity and have started a new account just to avoid it since my house on era is also a code/info center. Also everyone on forums is going to focus on the head/body section wich is only 1/5 of the website and there are so many other players looking for everything else.

mithos 12-28-2016 12:17 AM

Quote:

Posted by SewerRat (Post 751647)
@mithos im not concerned about the server im concered about the player community.
It should not discurage anyone to create as the heads/bodies are in game and freely available. The same could be said about any personal gfx site. Players are going to do what they are going to do.

@bram actually i could care less about popularity and have started a new account just to avoid it since my house on era is also a code/info center. Also everyone on forums is going to focus on the head/body section wich is only 1/5 of the website and there are so many other players looking for everything else.

As a graphics artist and someone who has had their customs ifiled and posted on a site, yes it actually does discourage me from making any personal graphics. It's also not available freely, as you actually have to do work to get the entire file.

I'm honestly feeling like this is just an excuse to have a site with ripped files from the server, and I would like to see this thread removed, as you're advertising people to use customs they didn't make :\.

You're not actually helping the community, you're hurting by making it so artist don't want to upload. I doubt you even understand the iEra community honestly. If it was just an FAQ site nothing would have been removed, so this is clearly the issue.

hosler 12-28-2016 12:18 AM

Post whatever you want on it. No one visits sites without content.

SewerRat 12-28-2016 01:46 AM

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Posted by mithos (Post 751674)
As a graphics artist and someone who has had their customs ifiled and posted on a site, yes it actually does discourage me from making any personal graphics. It's also not available freely, as you actually have to do work to get the entire file.

I'm honestly feeling like this is just an excuse to have a site with ripped files from the server, and I would like to see this thread removed, as you're advertising people to use customs they didn't make :\.

You're not actually helping the community, you're hurting by making it so artist don't want to upload. I doubt you even understand the iEra community honestly. If it was just an FAQ site nothing would have been removed, so this is clearly the issue.

Sorry you feel that way and everyone is intitled to tere own opinions. Its far from a excuse as posting the heads/bodys only had taken a few hours as the rest was weeks. Lastly the "community" is far larger then the players on this forum or the ones you choose to associate with. As fir content being removed it only gets removed if im asked to remove it.
Soooooooo lets get back on topic to the orginal questions i asked please about the guide section/tab is it easy to follow and use?

Sig. 12-28-2016 02:13 AM

Quote:

Posted by hosler (Post 751676)
Post whatever you want on it. No one visits sites without content.

Is that the reason why reborn is dead?

mithos 12-28-2016 02:26 AM

Quote:

Posted by SewerRat (Post 751731)
Sorry you feel that way and everyone is intitled to tere own opinions. Its far from a excuse as posting the heads/bodys only had taken a few hours as the rest was weeks. Lastly the "community" is far larger then the players on this forum or the ones you choose to associate with. As fir content being removed it only gets removed if im asked to remove it.
Soooooooo lets get back on topic to the orginal questions i asked please about the guide section/tab is it easy to follow and use?

Yes it may take a few hours to find the files but it takes much longer to make them. Just like your website, these people with personals also spend time.

Also regarding the removal , I don't think you understand, because by the time someone is asking to put it down, someone ignorant has already uploaded the personal they spent hours maybe days working on. That's why it's better to just not have it. From what I recall, I don't think anyone likes to see their personal things up in the internet without their permission, and I don't understand how you think you know the community if your campaign on era-go was removed. There is clearly an issue.

After further research I found this :
https://www.era-go.com/forum/showthr...86-DrD-website

and the fact that you were staff before makes it more suspicious of how you got the files, since client instantly downloads everything. Not sure what system iEra RC uses but you could easily move era_personalhead_graal#.png/gif to a website like that one. Even the staff on Era is taking action for what you did, yet you still continue, and act like you're helping a "community"?

SewerRat 12-28-2016 03:18 AM

Since you still want to change the dirrection of this thread ill go along with it one last time a since its just adding post counts. In the link you show if you read what staff said whatever you upload is no longer yours so your argument is in valid.
In the hundreds of comments i have gotten the support outweigh the negative 10 fold.

Staff already had taken action and reversed it knowing they were in the wrong so continue your "research" and find out the 1 and only thing staff have a problem with is staff heads being on my website.
As for your accusations of me being a PR having anything to do with my website has already been investigated and proven false.

Rosewald 12-28-2016 03:30 AM

Bruh i see howl's heads on your website.
Basically you are 'that guy' that no one wants to deal with because you dont have the decency to respect someones personal work.
For a fact you probably have no experience with pixel art and this was your only way of getting around that.

mithos 12-28-2016 03:33 AM

If the staff were so called in the wrong, why would they still want to shut you down? There is clearly more then you're saying. Also the thread was to show the negative response of your site, and which is probably more then you saying that the support outweighs negative responses.

SewerRat 12-28-2016 03:36 AM

@rosewald Didnt i just say the only problem staff have is having staff heads on my website?
@mithos same answer i have staff heads on my website. And players on the forums account for a very tiny portion of the whole community.

Rosewald 12-28-2016 04:12 AM

Quote:

Posted by SewerRat (Post 751776)
@rosewald Didnt i just say the only problem staff have is having staff heads on my website?
@mithos same answer i have staff heads on my website. And players on the forums account for a very tiny portion of the whole community.

Yes you did, as as far as i am concerned Howl was gfx staff b4 so you still uploaded a staffs head either when he was gfx admin, or soon after.
Going off a hunch but im pretty sure he made that head when he was admin btw

Shiz 12-28-2016 04:31 AM

Cool site dude

Advent 12-28-2016 04:54 AM

TIME TO **** U UP BOI IMMA EXPOSE YOU WITH THE EVIDENCE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY PRESENTED

here's the **** you did wrong:

stole thousands of files

stole those files abusing your position

be an asshole

deny you did anything wrong, even though you technically committed virtual theft

make possibly the ****ing worst website i've seen this month, dude this is 2016, not 2007

be a ****


if you can't realize this, ifiling/abusing your staff position and stealing other players' graphics, even if they weren't owned by Graal after submission, is virtual theft, especially when you upload them onto a website that is not affiliated with the source, so other people can use them.

like say this, i own a game similar to graal whereas certain staff members accept custom graphics submitted by players for them to use personally. one of those staff members goes and steals those graphics, and many others, and uploads them onto their website. isn't that ****ing wrong? players who have spent time working on their personal graphics for their own use, are 1. no longer the definitive creator of the graphic, they may have created it, but they can't prove it 2. their graphics level of value is diminished to near nothing.

**** you. ****.

also im pretty sure the amount of forum users (era-go, graalians) account for the majority of the community, as most people quit era within a week or so of their start.

Springy 12-28-2016 05:03 AM

Oh joy, eras very own dedicated graal depot to ruin everyone's motivation to make they're own uploads cause they continuously get ifiled and not taken down, boy do I know how that feels after it happening to me on classic and having to make a new version of said uploads I held dearly, you may think your helping oh so many people with your site but really you're only poking a nest of bees and waiting to be swarmed.

Yog 12-28-2016 05:14 AM

if you wanna hate on springy youre gonna have 2 go thru me fisrt
>:ggg

SewerRat 12-28-2016 05:20 AM

@springy..im not worried about some bees.
@advent. Everything on my site is from era not personal virtual property and i am not making a dime from the website and is used under far use unlike era its self useing trademaked property to make real money.
Me being a old staff has nothing to do with anything and thats why they reversed there "punishment" also the fact they breaking laws using the system they have in place.
Being an asshole i cant argue with you on that *shrugs*

Advent 12-28-2016 05:32 AM

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Posted by SewerRat (Post 751806)
@springy..im not worried about some bees.
@advent. Everything on my site is from era not personal virtual property and i am not making a dime from the website and is used under far use unlike era its self useing trademaked property to make real money.
Me being a old staff has nothing to do with anything and thats why they reversed there "punishment" also the fact they breaking laws using the system they have in place.
Being an asshole i cant argue with you on that *shrugs*

ummmmm.... it's still graalonline property. it may not be the personal, but it's still virtual property.

Springy 12-28-2016 05:33 AM

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Posted by SewerRat (Post 751806)
@springy..im not worried about some bees.

Its a figure of speech, and I'm not sure if you got the point what I'm saying is if you continue to steal personal uploads with time and effort put into them for your "beneficial" site you're gonna have a swarm of pissed off people coming at you.

SewerRat 12-28-2016 05:50 AM

@advent. yes and used under USA fair use act. Unlike what the game itself does by using other companies property and making a profit from it.
@springy. You mean like now? Yeah not worried about it as I really dont play any of the games anymore.

Springy 12-28-2016 05:55 AM

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Posted by SewerRat (Post 751810)
@advent. yes and used under USA fair use act. Unlike what the game itself does by using other companies property and making a profit from it.
@springy. You mean like now? Yeah not worried about it as I really dont play any of the games anymore.

Oh yes, that makes everything much better of course you wouldn't care about who you piss off cause you don't even play so that also means the community of non forum users gets no opinion if they're uploads get stolen by your site and used by other players that's anything but beneficial to the community and its highly unfair.

SewerRat 12-28-2016 06:01 AM

No i was refering to the threat of "a swarm of pissed of players" after me. Im still in the game but doing nothing anyone could effect me doing hence not playing it. Unless your refering to a real life threat to me then i find that laughable.

Springy 12-28-2016 06:07 AM

Quote:

Posted by SewerRat (Post 751813)
No i was refering to the threat of "a swarm of pissed of players" after me. Im still in the game but doing nothing anyone could effect me doing hence not playing it. Unless your refering to a real life threat to me then i find that laughable.

I'm not sure where you got real life out of that because that would be highly stupid to even suggest.

SewerRat 12-28-2016 06:10 AM

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Springy 12-28-2016 06:17 AM

It's about time I took my leave from this argument, I know a pointless cause when I see one, how unfortunate.

SewerRat 12-28-2016 07:18 AM

Quote:

Posted by Springy (Post 751816)
It's about time I took my leave from this argument, I know a pointless cause when I see one, how unfortunate.

Yeah been through this many times with people who can only see the 1/5th of the website they dont agree with. Now hopfully someone could actually contribute to the question asked in the first post.......

Perseus 12-28-2016 07:53 AM

Heres a good idea; Step off the ol boy and pick on someone more competent, more capable of defending themselves. He thinks he's helping people, let him have his damn fantasy.

Bram- 12-28-2016 08:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by SewerRat (Post 751647)

@bram actually i could care less about popularity

Ye that's also why u were asking people to follow your instagram when u had a staff position on iera.


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Howl 12-28-2016 09:49 AM

Stupid move, Detroit. I'm going to ask you kindly to remove my heads and all the other staff heads on there from iEra - if you don't, it will be bought up with management. I'm sure department staff have already been notified of this and are currently taking action. Your website is a big staff-impersonation incident waiting to happen.

Just from the first page alone I can see you have Ace's, Layerd's, Bram's and Casper's heads on there...Also, I don't get your logic; any staff head that is uploaded gets declined and upload banned if they continue to do so. What's the point? All I'm seeing is that you're looking for trouble and attention.

Taking people's hours of hard work and kicking them down as artists really reflects on you as an individual buddy. You're coming off as extremely egotistical and condescending, how did you even get staff on the server in the first place?

Sies 12-28-2016 10:52 AM

looks great, just watch out if anyone takes them and claims 'em as their own

Bryan* 12-28-2016 01:45 PM

Blacklist this moron and take the website down

SewerRat 12-28-2016 03:58 PM

Quote:

Posted by Bram- (Post 751830)
Ye that's also why u were asking people to follow your instagram when u had a staff position on iera.


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Yeah it was easier to show screenshots of whats going on when things happened instead of answering hundreds of pms. Lasy ass high staff could of just put it in the news but thats to much to ask..

Quote:

Posted by Howl (Post 751834)
Stupid move, Detroit. I'm going to ask you kindly to remove my heads and all the other staff heads on there from iEra - if you don't, it will be bought up with management. I'm sure department staff have already been notified of this and are currently taking action. Your website is a big staff-impersonation incident waiting to happen.

Just from the first page alone I can see you have Ace's, Layerd's, Bram's and Casper's heads on there...Also, I don't get your logic; any staff head that is uploaded gets declined and upload banned if they continue to do so. What's the point? All I'm seeing is that you're looking for trouble and attention.

Taking people's hours of hard work and kicking them down as artists really reflects on you as an individual buddy. You're coming off as extremely egotistical and condescending, how did you even get staff on the server in the first place?

Managment already knows and tried to permjail me cuz of this. I have never refused to take any head down as ive told anero many times give me page row column and itll be taken down if asked. How am i to know whos head is who.

Bram- 12-28-2016 05:28 PM

i lost all my respect for you Detroit

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Galen Verge 12-28-2016 09:05 PM

I Love How Even Tho EVERYONE Is Exposing Him And Disagreeing Hes Still Like "Guys Its Ok What Im Doing Everyone Else Is Wrong Im Right!"

Advent 12-28-2016 10:08 PM

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Posted by Galen Verge (Post 751981)
I Love How Even Tho EVERYONE Is Exposing Him And Disagreeing Hes Still Like "Guys Its Ok What Im Doing Everyone Else Is Wrong Im Right!"

that's what people who can't understand/cope with the fact they did something wrong. Also Please Stop Capitalizing Every Word Like This It Gives Everyone Headaches.

Liz 12-30-2016 02:31 PM

If your artwork is on there, I suggest you submit a copyright complaint through the website's host domain.

http://i.imgur.com/1lv5K1B.jpg

Link to copyright agreements:
https://ca.godaddy.com/agreements/sh...marketid=en-CA

I know Wordpress did a good job of taking care of a website that ifiled a lot of heads. They got too many complaints and ended up shutting the stealer's website down. Worth a try.

Link to submit a complaint:
https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/In...ent/Index?isc=

Asaiki 12-30-2016 04:24 PM

http://nebula.wsimg.com/d3f432b5b54d...&alloworigin=1

DanTheMan 12-30-2016 06:01 PM

http://imgur.com/AD7Nh3E

Jailed for using Cheat Engine...lol

Basil 12-30-2016 06:49 PM

epic win... next: graal depot....

SewerRat 12-30-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Posted by Elizabeth (Post 752403)
If your artwork is on there, I suggest you submit a copyright complaint through the website's host domain.

http://i.imgur.com/1lv5K1B.jpg

Link to copyright agreements:
https://ca.godaddy.com/agreements/sh...marketid=en-CA

I know Wordpress did a good job of taking care of a website that ifiled a lot of heads. They got too many complaints and ended up shutting the stealer's website down. Worth a try.

Link to submit a complaint:
https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/In...ent/Index?isc=


You are better off trying to dmca with google and other search engines cuz my site falls under far use. And those free websites are junk for that reason

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Posted by Basil (Post 752432)
epic win... next: graal depot....

You would have better luck getting that site taken down since they have ads on the page and are profiting from it. Mine will never have ads for that reason.

Sawyer 12-31-2016 06:33 PM

Sewer Rat is a very fitting name lol


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