Zodiac
 

Zodiac came back to life, somehow. Top of the playercount at most times now, community seems to be extremely active too. Not to mention the playercount is rising over time unlike some of the other servers. What do you guys think?
https://gyazo.com/bd4291774cc65a373648bdfd8a1376f8.png

He's an iClassic staff member tho, why would he spend time on a dead client?
30 people is nothing compared to 8k users on iClassic (and growing).

I like Zodiac. I don't necessarily agree with those proposed managers.

I don't agree with any of them.

I understand that some of the candidates may be aggressive on the zone section but they deserve a chance, the proposed managers were people i could think of right off the bad, there could be more candidates. here is the playerbase from a few hours ago
http://i.imgur.com/zYZoFep.png

It isn't as dead as people seem to believe, sure it's not as active but like distorted says it has the most players out of the pc servers if it received proper support and a new management and released on facebook it is likely to rise over olwest and zone.

there are even players who invest their valuable time on guides and drop lists
http://nikwals-drop-archieve.de.tl/

Problem is its making no money for Unix, why would they bother with it.
It's been mentioned that Unix is working with Unity engine as of now, I also don't see a reason to do anything with client graal.

The playerbase is the same 100 or so people who havent gotten over client graal yet and sit in the main city (literally EVERY client server) doing nothing.

Also why would FP4 have anything to do with the client when he's working for iclassic?????????????

it's making no money because it ain't on ios duh

and i also don't agree with the proposed managers

It's making no money because there is absolutely no reason to buy anything from the clients store...

ye, and put classic on there. no one would buy mad **** either. you have to put the game on different platforms to profit.

My issue with the proposed managers isn't that I believe them to be too aggressive, but I believe you're over-estimating their potential to bring Zodiac to a higher level. And especially since none of them have an equal familiarity with the server as fp4 does.

If there were an actual, actual incentive in sight to start focusing more attention on the server, it would be best to give fp4 the option if he wanted to put more time into the server or let somebody else take over. There's no need to have him removed.

Difference is classic was made for the app store not for some ****ty client that is difficult for people who haven't used before to navigate.

Once again why the **** would anyone want to spend money on a client server, even if You added it to the mobile servers available.

also the whole "put classic on there and it wouldn't make any money" probably because no one who plays igraal and started 2013-2016 knows what the **** client graal is.

Zodiac is fun if you have a right group to play with. And that's the exact reason why I quit. There's these world bosses & dungeons that you can't solo, and it's so hard to butt in pro farming groups. TBH it's that one game I'd definitely value friends/reputation over equipments/money. Cause over time you will guarantee to have both.

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Back in March, I tried my best to fit in a farming group, but the party leader kicked me for not knowing an acronym for a raid location. I kinda felt lame, he could've taught me instead of kicking.

I remember getting scammed by Sardon. He charged me 850k for 2 rare equipments <-(400k value). He also exchanged me some junk gears for a race changer(2.5m value). So he completely lost my trust over some virtual money.

At my final phase, I met this dude who was able to hack dmg & hp. He said he'd help me farm these world bosses, but at some point, he got pissed off by PKers in front of respawn zone. So he PKed them back with hacks enabled and got himself banned permanently.
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exactly why you should put zodiac on ios

1. let me correct you, it does make him atleast a tiny bit of money from character slots and exp pots through surveys (players do this if they can't afford to pay real money)
http://i.imgur.com/zs8j32h.png

2. incorrect, not all of them afk full time, they pvp quite often, participate in ctf or farm gear, the main reason you dont see much of that at times is because there isn't much motivation to play with minimal development.

3. fowlplay4 was and is still the manager of zodiac. but we all know he is only working for iclassic, yet he is still hold the position.

I'm aware that jerret is a extremely talented scripter and i respect that.

despite that players have been complaining about fowlplay4 for not putting any time into it, but he has also stated that it's not worth it so no he will not put any more time into it.

i understand there is alot of work and no motivation which is why i find it necessary for a new management.

http://i.imgur.com/3uShLyU.png

and here is what one of the old players think
http://i.imgur.com/RFTd76D.png

and i'm pretty dam sure most of the ios games started from client

If Zodiac made it to the appstore it would make unixmad good profit he has good reason to support the game.
Once on Ios in app purchases could be implimented and acording to what I've seen so far zodiac could easily get the same numbers as iclassic
the only reason zone and ol west don't succeed like era and classic do is because ol west is an empty shell of era and Zone is total disaster in every sense.

Zodiacs pvp systems and dungeons can provide hours upon hours of entertainment without the need to create quests that take 1000X times longer to make than to complete.
I do disagree with management suggestions but if there is one thing I can it is that anybody would make a better manager than fp4 at this point.

Look I didn't scam you I don't know the value of items either I just take guesses and ask around but everyone will give me different numbers.If it really bothers you I am willing to give you 50k for free .

Zodiac is the kind of game you want to get your friends engaged in, I recently braught in 5 new players to the community which is hard to do in these times,We farm together and watch our backs in pk which is really fun :D

The farming language like Fc Hd and Tw are hard to get used to but you eventualy learn,perhaps a guide should be made to those confused by those terms to help bring in new players.

i'll hire whoever has a plan and actual skills to back up their plan.

sent mail to unix cuz this sh1t gotta stop make zod great again

what good is familiarity when he doesnt fcking do sh1t with it and makes players suffer for 6 or more years and do even know what fp4 did in the past? he sweared at ppl and got fired then got rehired because he made a automated script
that votes yes ingame when theres only 100 ppl on the vote was rigged to 60355 yes votes to 70 no votes so he was literally the trump of zodiac corrupt af

look at this vid i uploaded stealing my friends yt cuz i didnt want a gay gmail acc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWpTPTPPezU

this was the best game i ever played and when fp4 got fired it was the best day of my life not even lyin, i was nice 2 him
but he picks sides only helped classic acc players when they get scammed but if a graal # gets scammed he give no sh1ts
only helping his friends thats corrupt af what else to explain?

i was the 1 and only best ranger that made so many nerfs to the class even to this day everyone who plays an archer they call it sylvia, ranger and scout is no longer ranger and scout. it is sylvia. a class became a player name, thats me and i quit
why? cuz im tried of bullsh1t with fp4 ruining the server with his lazy ass, if the monk hates the temple he LEAVES IT instead of ABUSING IT.

fastest reply ever bro prolly almost pooped ur pants with anxiety

literally the chelt taytay of zodiac useless and lazy af on his own server and wastes every1s tim then gets all credit PRO AF

fp4 kissin higher ups ass.jpg

zodiac was dying before fp4 was appointed manager bb

client accounts and ios accounts are different things ffs

also has zodiac really received any sort of update in a few years

fp4 is literally doing nothing, nothing bad, no improvements either, he is a main classic admin afterall, and that is higher up on unix's priorties: making money.

i don't see how fp4 is ruining a server on a client that was already dying

what do you know random ass kisser

some updates on zod are just rly fortunate ones and its not fp4 doin iany of it he didnt give a dam since 2008 like zexon every oldie knows this.

first of all your just a normal player peasant you have no idea
that its possible to have a linked server with ios and pc, have you not been on delt?

fp4 is wasting zods time so many staffs got sick of him and left

what good is a manager if he dont manage sh1t if he aint managing sh1t hes good as gone, so he could have saved us misery and resigned but hes greedy af just wants it for his status and corruption

posting abt zod in here is the dumbest thing to do distorted
they are bias and love fp4 and dont know his past and only knows the fake fp4 who acts like he's good.

thats why delt staff ignore graalians obviously, too much toxic players around, and im happy to admit i am toxic but i hae only become toxic because of ppl like fp4, md spreading the toxic and changing me into 1.

You started Graal in 2012 Sylvi, with all due respect I don't think you are in a position to be commenting about how PC graal is and its past to the extent that you are and trying to attack somebody when you obviously are just basing it on stories you heard.

PC Graal is and always will be dying, it's time people just accepted this and moved on, the reason he is still manager is because there's no capable replacement yet who has knowledge of the server and the required skill set.

You should be glad he has enough common sense to actually make sure a replacement would be able to fulfill their duties and actually have a good strategy for doing so, as you can tell by Zone they appointed managers without looking into that and you know that didn't work out so why complain when someone wants to ensure the same doesn't happen to Zodiac?

2012 isn't an 'oldbie' so what do you actually know besides what stories people tell you who are obviously going to twist things and lie to benefit the objective they are trying to push?

Looool tbh I loved FP4 as manager back when the playercount was high...He did help me out quite a few times with reverse trades etc. and usually replied to PMs so he's better then some admins on iOS servers that hardly ever reply.

To be honest if Jerret was gonna step down I always wanted Raven to take his place but Raven has said numerous times he's not interested in that position.

Idk though I just wished Zodiac hired more GPs/FAQs/ETs but when our staff went inactive we didn't have much control on the server...There wasn't events for people to play+hackers weren't being dealt with+noobs didn't know how to play...I hope Jerret reads this and begins hiring some more people in those roles so the Zodiac playercount can remain stable for the time being...I'd probably log on Zodiac again if that was the case because it gives me a reason to play.

Bleh, at the end of the day it's just grinding in dungeons. That's all there is in terms of levels that haven't gone unfinished. Also why exactly were the new hybrid classes enabled for a short period of time then soon after disabled again? I don't understand the reasoning behind that unless they were absolutely broken.

Most of them were imcomplete, or unbalanced when introduced to the current set of classes. The only ones complete are Alchemist (one skill left needed) and Psion(completely done, and extremely balanced compared to all the other classes).

As a moderately pro player with several endgame sets on Zodiac, I'd like to say that it's just the lack of motivation of developers, on top of the fact that everyone knows and are friends each other, therefore pvp and things like nation raid are no longer existent sadly on a large scale.

edit: If you'd like help getting started or getting some connections and is NOT sards, feel free to pm me and I can hook you up into Seryl(only nation with buffs) with some mid-game gear.

I'm also willing to help some people come play Zodiac. It is really a great rendition of Graal the population is increasing lately. I would really love to see this server bounce back. I made a quick guide to install Graal for PC, Mac or Linux.

http://imgur.com/a/HsfmR

I'd take Zodiac(finished) over any and all of the current iOS servers. It has a strong idea on the side of it, but no authority to reach the end; really no point unless it's put on iOS. The game might be grinding, but there's so much to it, so many locations to grind at in so many ways. I would play Zodiac for hours when it had a playerbase ~100, but the goal was never achieved.

i want 60% of the theoretical future revenue of zodiac and distribute it among whoever contributes

then id do it

id be more on zodiac but i still cant shout, and its not toggled

ever since i /reset myself on RC its not working anymore

yes but if we were to compare it with delteria, it's a whole lot less grindy and more rewarding in farming, due to normal baddies having chance to drop prefixed/suffixed gears.

there are very few quests and are difficult and unrewarding, zodiac proved the other servers that quests aren't necessary.

zodiac has alot of animosity towards strangers when people become friends they never fight each other, they instead team up against strangers, this has been a trend for years which has made numerous new players quit because they couldn't adapt to such playing field with lack of gear but some players have survived through the hard times and tried to help others without allies.

sardon would be a great example of this, when he was new there was no way he could know if a player has good or bad influence but he joined and healed for a certain group of people and became one of the most hated players in the community in one night.

damn bro tell us about the old fp4

i miss the old fp4

also the playercount is like 58 right now so my managing is doing fine

also we have an eta and ets again so get off me

perhaps this thread should have been created a few months ago when the player base hardly reached two digits. many players did come back but it wasn't because of your "fine" management, nostalgia just ticked in.

http://i.imgur.com/TF8b9Yg.png

I'd like to take full responsibility for Zodiac being alive again...the players probably found out about my epic return to the server. It's like Goldberg returning to WWE.

Right now.

http://i.imgur.com/joPGNuB.png

colin i played zod actively at 2012 but i first logged in it at 2010 but thought the game was dead cuz i logged in when it was midnight in est timezone.

you rly didnt have to play at 2008 to know fp4 btw, i know him more than any of you because graalians hardly played zod to know his darkest secrets

yea you guys love him for doing great on iclassic newsflash ur server already topnotch without him and hes getting paid ofc hes working hard

so you won't hire fp4? good sh1t

the only guy i know you guys hired is zuel he sure had a plan and skills to back up their plans a complete garbage who applied for gani that didnt even know 1 thing abt ganing? lol

r u fkin srs right now??!?!?! u didnt do sh1t for 6 years how is that manaing fine you got usd to unban garry, you got usd to reverse trades that is corrupt af

so many of the zod players played and left i did everything i could to keep player count to 100 for years with my videos while you did nothing you greedy ungrateful lazy bum.

so many old gfx, lats left cuz they tired of ur lack of motivation

btw ur the reason ryu and ketso kept fighting and you didnt do jack sh1t when its your responsibility to control the situation

good fkin management there you end up making ryu script a d/c script and watched him abuse it on ketso GG MAN WELLPLAYED 100% top notch managing

if u get to blame me for the lower playercount, i get to take credit for when it's higher

Without me the server would be extremely boring because I in a way promoted pvp.

Most pc servers have tight communities,if iZodiac became a thing large scale pk could finally bd a thing and we could have teams of 20 players fighting eachother.

u killed the server, not my fault they are being ******s playing again when nothing will change with u around

u dont even need zod ur getting paid to work on iclassic gtfo tbh and give new ppl hope

tho u prob will not do that since u only script to get rehired that 1 time you got fired by pwa for harrassing and swearing at everyone on graal official forums that was a good 1 btw

rigging the poll to 66k yes votes vs 70 no votes when there was only 100 players playing GJ bro

must feel so proud to cheat like trump

with you replaced the game will have 100+ players you got no balls to let that happen because you dont wanna be remembered as a incompetant manager that killed the server.

you would be so jealous when any manager accomplishes what you couldnt achieve.

Yes because your videos that had 13 views really did a lot for Zodiac and ensured its survival.

wtf all my vids have near 1000 views each now thats high
for a server with only 50-70 ppl online ppl looked up to me as a hero and mentor of the class of sylvia and u already noe how tryhard i am lols

kuz u and immortals suxs remember when i owned u daily with korpse and everyone in ur guild quit zod lol good times bro

prob the highest view video on my friends yt (she change pw fml)
http://i.imgur.com/QiwwQsC.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWpTPTPPezU

I miss the old fp4, straight from the Go fp4
Chop up the soul fp4, set on his goals fp4
I hate the new fp4, the bad mood fp4
The always rude fp4, spaz in the news fp4
I miss the sweet fp4, chop up the beats fp4
I gotta say, at that time I'd like to meet fp4
See I invented fp4, It wasn't any fp4
And now I look and look around and there's so many fp4's
I used to love fp4, I used to love fp4
What if fp4 made a song about fp4
Called "I Miss The Old fp4"? Man, that'd be so fp4
And I love you like fp4 loves fp4

LMAO


I doubt it, fp4 threw like $100 bucks at me to support a measly guild website
seems like a serious contradiction of behavior

although if he did ever did do that, I wouldn't even care because Graal staff who stick around for that long probably should be getting money

love the viewbotted videos, 7 likes and 2 dislikes but 2,000 views? yeah, sure buddy lmao

less than .5% (closer to .4%) of viewers reacted, one is bound to be you and another your friend

normal videos get at LEAST 3%-5% of the views in likes alone

source: youtube employee

according to your post i am apparently a bot since i never press like or dislike on videos, that source is really flawed that you make it sound like every one that watches youtube videos ALWAYS presses the like or dislike button

another thing you did not take into account is that you require to be logged in to press like or dislike.

What do you mean everyone? He just quoted three to five percent of users as the minimal number for interaction on videos, which Youtube knows based off of actual statistics

It seems it's years old so it's plausible, but that many views over the course of 4-5 years is pretty bad for promoting something

I mean this guy isn't that smart, if you think fp4 intentionally rigged a voting system by going sixty-six thousand votes to seventy on a server with only around a hundred players you have to be pretty dumb, fp4 obviously isn't stupid enough to do that

I stopped reading what he was saying after these, just proves he is making stuff up and is full of him self

i meant it "everyone that watches youtube videos" not only the 2000 viewers. i hardly ever interact with videos. you still have to "login" just to reply or like/dislike not everyone is willing to sign up a google+ account just for this... game lol

I think you're misunderstanding him. He's saying 3-5% of all people watching videos interact with it by pressing like or dislike. Having 2000 views means you should, on average, have around 80 combined likes & dislikes.

Sylvi has 0.4% of interactions on his video, which is such a big statistically anomaly that you can with high certainty assume foul play is involved with view botting being the probably cause. Whether or not it was intentionally done by Sylvi however is another story.


p.s. Ziro4ZodiacManagerAgainLOL (plz no, that **** sucked the first time around)

Played it for a bit yesterday, People are quite friendly 3-4 guys decided to teach me some of the basics and I thought it was cool.

The Ui is confusing as f*** though

That's nice, some people are in a guild to restore zodiac, this includes a change of management.

I take it that english isn't your first language. those statistics are flawed.

Are you certain that at least 3-4% out of 2000 people will actually bother registering or log into google + just to like or dislike on a pc graal video?

so you agree that we have a delteria event admin view botting, it sure has below 1% interaction and this isn't just a "graal" video this is team fortress 2, sure it's a short boring video but that's exactly what graal is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnH06LJeLS0

Draco wouldn't do such thing, this was just an example.

here is another example, this one is a delteria video with 5724 views statistically it MUST HAVE 1% interaction correct? let's hope it has 150 combined of likes, dislikes and replies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wywYm0phDho

looks like we have found another view botter, we're getting good at this! /sarcasm

now please let's stay on topic instead of derailing the thread with flawed theories that doesn't take into account that lurkers exist, and the fact that people hardly cares enough to login to like/dislike a pc graal video.

if anything, that video made Zodiac look like it runs at 5 FPS so the 2000 views (real or fake) probably did more bad than good