Time for a Server Up grade?
 

AFter doing this gst, I realized that some teams warp around and landed 5 hits on me at once. Same for all my teammates. The server needs an upgrade. dont you guys think so?

no the server is fine the way it is

How many players are needed to support the rental costs of a bigger server? Would be cool to see graal classic with even more players

Why does the date say 11.27.2016 and not 11.27.2014???

sparring related stuff should happen on a separate server.
Especially the GST.
They could pretty easily link states/accounts between servers.
There would possibly even be a way to link the stuff going on in one servers arenas to display on the other.

That way people could watch without causing any lag on the spar server.

They're making more than enough money to upgrade the servers. Server hardware is dirt cheap these days (I have my own private virtual server I can use for wtf ever and it costs me $5 per month).

Bruh my device has been running slow cause they don't want to upgrade from iOS 7 to iOS 10...like Dusty can't you do it instead of waiting for Unixlazy?

No incentive for management to change things. Simple.

1) its not actually slowing down your device past the first time you open it and it creates the 32bit library (which you actually already had unless your phone is brand new)

2) im absolutely certain dusty has no access to updating the app itself. that is completely up to unixmad

they will update it eventually, or apple will remove it off the app store or something like that

Won't happen. Not on this game atleast.

this has been said for pretty much all gsts

and since the release of mobile graal in general

Going to seriously punch u in the face

been time for abt 3 yrs

It's always time for one

Well, Graal also needs to pay a lot for DDoS shields etc, I don't know too much about this stuff but I don't think it's that cheap for them to be honest

also dirt cheap considering how much $ unix is making

It's a software/programming/scripting problem not a hardware problem. The hardware is top of the line from what I've seen.

We know you're just trying to stall us.

Upgrade the servers fp4 it's that simple.

There's just a big red button that says "upgrade" and you and Dusty just refuse to press it for unknown reasons, right guys?

I like how someone always post a thread about a server upgrade. Lmao.

It hasn't happen the last few years. Won't happen now.

But what FP4 says. Plus they host it in pretty much every country. So some places are just lagger since well they don't live by a strong area where Graal has any servers in that area.


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It did happen within the last couple years.

Eh it's really laggy on ios still. Makes it nearly impossible to pk or spar because of the lag. I don't think it's due to ddos attacks, I just think it's the servers. However defense against attacks would be nice but I would say that's secondary compared to fixing the servers

From a business perspective - why spend more on upgrading your servers when people still play with crappy servers?

pics or it didn't happen

Time for a sequel? :D

Iclassic has become an extremely populated place, it nice to know that retro games still have huge appeal to players

Very popular and you've got a fan base :)

Talk to the boss man and see if he can buy some cheap canadian code slaves?

Lesson learned, don't do gst.

Replace Dusty with a Russian Hacker to get the job done

Fixed

How's that a fix, pretty smart to make profit without having to deliver more
We're all complaining yet Unix is gaining

If you'd replace Unixmad with someone that can script, the issue may be solved. Never pointed out his money-making ways

let thor have his own classic server so sparrers and peers can go there and the 2000 afk noobs can stay on regular classic

Well you posted that as a direct attempt to shame Unixmad while he is actually still gaining without having to put effort into the issue at hand

I wouldn't say without putting effort, even if it might be a small amount. Other than that, you're right

No, Obviously guys we need a server downgrade idk why we just should ;)

Does Graal use a virtualized server from a company like Amazon? I've been meaning to ask for a while.

Server lag doesn't bother me as much as the fact that any player outside North America has some type of connection issue. But this is coming from a guy who's bitching about something I really don't fully understand

But free my boy relic tho ayy lmao

'Top of the line'
Lol come on fp4 we all know thats a lie.
I bet unix runs the server off his laptop with 256mb of ddr2 ram.

Probably just using the $5 droplet on Digital Ocean.

I agree with Tidus completely. I can probably bich a little more about laggers if I wanted to also but its not really worth it.


If Kodak can be freed then so can Relic

So is 4-5k players the pinnacle of server size utilizing the current engine?

Are there plans to make it accessible by more players?

It's been said the server is capable of handling much more. Graal City AFKers are the biggest cause IIRC. AFAIK there is no plans to upgrade because iClassic doesn't make enough money. Look at iEra (I assume), they make a ton of money and there isn't much lag. It's a business thing, no point in spending more if the profits don't call for it.

Would you upgrade something if the profits from said thing have hardly changed?

Free Relic

Laughing irl about all the people saying 'free relic' like he was unjustly dealt with.

Optimization of resources is the toughest thing for any game... it takes time and effort on the part of developers, and the customers will see little to no difference and still be complaining. You can have all the cool hardware you want and one loopy bug in the script can still cause it to crumble.

Sure it takes time and effort but all we're talking about is buying a better quality server. This server can't handle the amount of players atm. We need like a better server so that this game can run well.

Easy Solution: just make some areas pk zone again (like from daycare to sky church area) and add lil safe spots on the buildings (and yes Im repeating so idfc), so that theres less afk people wasting the server space >.>

Honestly the game is increasing alot of safezoned areas lately that its pretty much pointless to pk anymore, except pk at towers, swamp, pond, small area at onnet, and by red barn. And ffs Im sick on pking Guild B and SoN 24/7 cuz they bored me to death running around in endless circles.

The server lag is probably a combination of several things that don't have to do with the hardware.

Ruxxter explained to me a while ago that the way Graal was coded is really inefficient in terms of handling multiple players in one level. I can't recall the exact explanation, but if there are 63 players in a level and and another player enters, making it 64, the data being transferred becomes exponentially larger. fp4 probably understands how that works, if it's true.

There's that, then the fact that AFK disconnection has been broken for a really long time now. Players that are inactive and AFK should be booted off the game entirely so that they aren't taking up any server resources. iClassic staff rigged a way to warp them all to an idle level, but I'm sure it isn't as efficient. Getting that to work all probably requires access to the game that only Stefan had.

Have to consider that Graal was coded as a game that never saw more than ~300 people on a single server in the PC days. I have to imagine the port to the iOS platform didn't include a rewrite of the game engine or anything like that, so 4000+ is definitely not what the game was built for. Why unixmad has not removed his head from his ass and done something about it yet is a mystery though.

So you are saying that it's not the server's problem, but actually the G-Code itself?
... Need like 100 expert coders to do that.

Sometimes I wonder if it is left broken on purpose. Could it be iClassic earns more when players are allowed to sit idly and show off their outfits?

Yeah. A dev said, Unixmad liked the high playercount in the map.

money flowing in, why fix something that isnt broken from his pov?

I think the server runs fine the way it is. I do, however, foresee a problem in the future if the server keeps growing. 4,000 players is a lot for a server that is years old.