Admins showing off their power?
 

My partner had trouble with an admin last week.
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https://konaanu.wordpress.com/2016/1...ble-in-olwest/
(it will take long to explain it here so she wrote down what happened on our site.)

What do you guys think of this admin? Do you think she is suitable to have this job?

this is graal, 80% of the admins barely do their jobs

It appears as though XXI was willing to change bodies and heads. And Anu could have handled that nicer, towards the end it was more harassment on Anu's part than asking for XXI to refund them.

What is she guilty of, liking someone's graphics? It's kinda ridiculous how anal people are about that. I joined a gang for 20 minutes, and changed my name to someone else's because I thought it would have been funny under the circumstances. They proceeded to harass me for it. I like making jokes and being silly, and I may have a bad one once every blue moon... But this guy needed to remove the quarter-inch dowel rod from his hind-end.

EDIT: That was really rant-y.
What do you call a Mariachi band in quick sand?

TL;DR
Anu is too sensitive

Longer version:
Admins tend to copy peoples looks as a sort of joke.
If you just tell them not to actually use the outfit then they won't use it

I thnk she overreacted... and she wasn't impersonating her. She was just using her body that she found on a site :(! That last part was really too much though. XXI is a great admin. <3

too much ego, making it a big deal like that is unneccessary

Customs are property of graalonline, and although she didn't steal the customs (it's like a temporary look they don't own the customs on their staff account) all 'personal' customs really are not personal at all.

As disheartening as custom stealing can be when you put a lot of time into your customs, all you can do is just suck it up and take it as a compliment - unless you're an admin then you can get those customs refunded in the case of staff impersonation :drool:

Also, Graalians isnt for appeals against staff - please go to http://support.toonslab.com if you want to submit a ticket

One thing can solve this problem.....BUILD A BIGGER WALL #TRUMP

I think "kill yourself" will probably do just fine

adiam dunt hurt me pls am call stephan!

Anu said (she couldn't make an account)

I'm surprised that most people don't see it the same way.
Ik I might have been exaggerating my anger too much but it felt so bad
when another person used what I made.
And Especially I worked really hard on it for myself. But I understand people feel their personal customs in a different way.

Btw...

The way I written in the blog was mostly about the use of admin power but What really pisses me off is the "lie" and "she wasn't sincere".

"Body was from ur friend site"←This is obviously a lie. I never uploaded it anywhere besides classic and olwest. If it was just a copy she wouldn't say things like this. When I tried to ask more about it, she dodged my questions.
never apologized about the lie.

If you look at the last screen shot, she doesn't look sorry at all. She really looked down on me. Is this the way admins should be acting? I thought you guys should be having more mature attitudes.

Let Connor investigate it since he's the "sheriff" of Ol'West, basically that admins boss.

LMAO!

People can obtain your uploads whenever you upload to a server through other sources, perhaps someone took them and then put it on their own website which then xxi saw to use?

gfx of any body/head/hat etc can be obtained if have ifiles/jailbroken device.. The Staff heads and bodies arn't actually meant to be accepted(but possibly someone didn't know it was theres) So now if player used but wasn't impersonating the staff and that staff was fine with it then nothing should happen.
If player used and staff wasn't happy about it they could of just told player it's staff's own body and refunded fully so no loss would really be done.
If they was using and acting/pretending to be staff then they first should of been warned about it breaking the rules and if continued the gfx would be refunded and also jailed for inpersonating.
Didn't read the actually thing but from what I grasped from comments of whatever happened.. that's my stand point on something like this.

Oh wait actually skimmed through the case aha..
firstly you said your friend helped 'editing' the head?
So wasn't yours? So can't really claim the head if no evidence..
Personally think staff should make there own head(Or atleast EDIT alot diff that one taken) In this case though noone should really get done as both parties used a head that was editting and not there own to start off with? If was actually made by you and shown evidence you may have a case, but simply put an argument of any sort shouldn't happen. if staff use another head/your own or even default ones OR ASK permission from actual owner so nothing happens like this. if player same goes really even if edited

So... OP is annoyed that person B used graphics from someone else's site, and OP claims it as theirs?

Yup

People have to realize they have no rights over customs once uploaded.

No OP made the body and the head , OP saw Person B copy the OP's customs without asking, OP told Person B to not use the customs, Person B ONLY removed the head, and not the body.

Then when OP confronted Person B, Person B lied saying that the body was on her (with probably no knowledge she was the original maker of all the bodies' from Kona's site , which it isn't, that particular body is not on her site, and from my knowledge has never been.) but then ended up saying it's a similar body with a "same difference."

Then OP got mad towards Person B's attitude after executing a very condescending attitude toward OP. (e.g she's very cute when she's angry, very sorry miss anu.)

No real comment for this scenario, just would like to put my input that I've also had my customs stolen before, and this anger fueled rant is basically how every graphics artist feels about their customs getting stolen, besides artists like Elk, Coco, Dusty (I think experience and maturity have a great factor in how one feels towards this subject) would feel.

Sure personal customs aren't really personal. But for artists who also provide graphics for the public and possibly old customs means they're also contributing to the graphics community while also being able to upload customs for themselves without feeling selfish. They give while also being able to enjoy their own art without feeling like a prick when people ask about their customs.

tldr: The customs being stolen were OP's personals (not on any site) , Person B took them, OP wanted them removed , Person B removed the head, then told OP that the body was on OP's site (OP would know if it's on her own site) then I guess removed it in the end but acting like OP was a joke. (Both OP and Person B could have executed it better so both people are wrong)

Jury finds the defendant: Innocent

o O. I guess you didn't really read the whole wordpress post.

It's irrelevant where the graphics come from as long as they are uploaded and not from a copyrighted source

That doesn't mean you can say something happened when it didn't.
You replied to his post with yup, but that's not what happened from what I read.

I agree with you on the second part though if that's what you though I meant that I didn't agree with how people need to realize their rights once a custom is uploaded.

I think it was wrong of xxi to take graphics like that without permission. She, as a staff member, should honestly have known better than to take a player's graphics like that. She doesn't seem very professional in that aspect, and the way she acted towards it I also think was kinda unprofessional.

However Anu's responses were also pretty bad, too. I understand her anger but she kinda freaked out a little bit. Instead of yelling at her, accusing her of being a thief and telling her to kill herself, she should have just asked her a little less harshly and reported it.

All in all, when you upload customs in this game there's really no way to stop someone else from using it. Usually when players say another player took their custom, there's nothing that can be done because that's just a risk everyone has to understand they're taking when uploading something to the internet. Though xxi being staff, she shouldn't have done that at all. Being staff she should be mature and professional and not act like a common player. Anu shouldn't have been so harsh and handled the situation more calmly, because freaking out like that just makes you look really bad and thus no better than the person you're having a problem with.

Those goddamn admins ://///

West admins xd

I agree with Coco wholeheartedly.
I'll be speaking with XXI to prevent this in the future, despite the players distasteful response.

I'm gonna be honest admins like playing these kind of jokes but Anu was reacting like they we're iFiled or that graaldepot took them if it was graaldepot that would've been understandable cause its upsetting to see your personals on those kind of websites its happened to me but she overreacted in my opinion.

It sucks if people use the customs you made for yourself but there's really no way to stop them. Yes, it'd be nice if admins were nicer about this and I feel bad for Anu but there's really nothing to stop anyone from using any customs that they find. :/

pretty nicely made heads btw

Honestly the stolen graphics isn't the problem at all, admins have the power and sometimes just use it and usually it's just temporary and also not to mention that xxi edited the graphics anyway... The only issue I see here is xxi'a response where she says "She's so cute when she gets mad" that's a little unprofessional but besides that I don't see what's wrong.

Coco basically ripped my comment bar the response O_O

I mean clearly the person didn't know of Xxi at all so it didnt seem like a joke to me.

Even if they do and they really know the person I will say that is fine but to take on a look and still kinda fight with someone until someone asked her to remove it seems very unprofessional.

I mean I take the risk of my heads being stolen and most of the time the player would refund it. But again I was a well known loser on Classic so I had kinda power over it since I had a small family that helped me out when I needed it. It does suck being unknown and getting the customs you and your friend made. But I am sure Staff have already spoken to Xxi about it and in the future she will have more of a understandment and will not do it again.

I have spoken to Xxi a few times and she is a very nice and respectful player just seems this time she wasn't, Oh well.
The body is on their site and the head has a poopy shade on it but the body is different but the head is copy of the one the player had. So I can't back up xxi with that but oh well GG

I know her pain
Also why did you edit Kuroneko's Body isn't that stealing lol..?

https://konaanu.files.wordpress.com/...bf94.png?w=840

Come to think of it I didn't even put any credit and it can't be called a major edit since I only put cleavage and recolor sooo....I think you're right.

I'm really sorry about that, I'll take that off the site.

What?

The fact that people use these heads/bodies is utter cringe lol.

You're not about the kimono life? You're missing out dude!

Buying it on Classic was enough for me

You ever wear one of those things irl? Man, they're the most comfortable things ever.

Also note the cleavage was already there at the very beginning, you only recolored it. I had clear memory of the body being worn by Kuroneko.

He studied that cleavage in great detail

greatest fap of his life

man, i really hope xxi didn't kill herself :/

Probably she had another body that had it, but this is the one I edited from.
http://i.imgur.com/2cU3GD0.png

If you try the one I edited, you cant see it unless you pull or keep walking btw

Probably, Since she's a great Pixel Artist.

I really did put the boobs and put more shading to it,
not just the recolor.-.

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