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GenoIndeed 11-07-2016 03:18 PM

So I am back once again to fix the guns. Since I've been gone, there's been a lot of changes, one of them being all my previous work being reset, another is the bases, lots of stuff, and I've learn quite a lot since then so i decided to rework the original plan I had. Guns are getting rebalanced, we are going to be a skill based game again, and the upcoming updates and any that follow will stay true to that. Zone will get easier and harder, hit timers will be much lower meaning good offensive and defensive skills are a must. The melees also have been balanced out, also with lower hit timers, the auction melees will be capped at 13 dmg as opposed to 14, the confusion effect some have (such as my beloved Sigil Blade) is being removed since its too op, and all melees won't be auto swing anymore unless they are part gun (such as the backpack).

For hit timer details, the default will be 0.2, any changes will be strictly based on the gun itself, holiday guns will be at 0.3 since they shouldn't outdo a shop gun equivalent when theyre way cheaper. Chainguns will be at 0.3, 0.2 was too much for them.

Also, a lot of guns were either buffed or nerfed based on price, and some guns changed up to bring a bit of diversity, since most of our guns are from holiday shops and are pretty basic.

With that being said, if you had any concerns, suggestions, or ideas, post below.

Also to add to this, everythings been changed on dev rn, they will be ported to main really soon

Chelterrar 11-07-2016 03:40 PM

Gun Thread
 
Also keep in mind that we might switch around with the damages, etc shortly after we release this update to the public. So selling your now 6 damage weapon might be a regret a day later when it's back on 8


Edit: I'm talking about the weapons that still can be sold

Fp* 11-07-2016 08:38 PM

Probably not the best time right now, but later once you have finished with balancing (well lets just say as far as you will get because new stuff will be added) will we be seeing a stats sheet? Similar to the one Tashkin made on a spreadsheet. Was really helpful to see what guns stand out for your specific needs.

edit: found tashkin's post
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Posted by Tashkin (Post 467896)


Trav 11-07-2016 10:35 PM

If you're taking away the confusion effect, compensate it with something else.

Weeno 11-07-2016 10:43 PM

Can we have like different types of weapons? Like assault rifles, snipers, launchers etc. Most guns I see don't have that much differences.

Chelterrar 11-07-2016 11:19 PM

Quote:

Posted by Weeno (Post 741087)
Can we have like different types of weapons? Like assault rifles, snipers, launchers etc. Most guns I see don't have that much differences.


That's something I already planned before Gunderak came along. So yeah this is a long term goal, yet it is something which needs an experienced scripter to deal with. Those scripts are linked to so many other things, soooooo there is a high chance of breaking stuff by accident.

GenoIndeed 11-08-2016 12:55 AM

Quote:

Posted by Trav (Post 741085)
If you're taking away the confusion effect, compensate it with something else.

I am, they'll have slowdown chance instead

Rosewald 11-08-2016 01:13 AM

Great plan and progression

Bleck3v3 11-08-2016 11:28 PM

ooouuu there are still gun changes going on lol

PigParty 11-09-2016 01:16 AM

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Posted by Bleck3v3 (Post 741212)
ooouuu there are still gun changes going on lol

BLECK

Bleck3v3 11-09-2016 06:37 PM

hai

G Fatal 11-12-2016 08:28 PM

Do these changes come with a freshly years+ inthewaiting new tileset.Nah nvm then.

Skt A. Sangue 11-15-2016 02:27 AM

uhm... melee fixes:D

search>zone>melee

something in there will pop up. read those geno.

GenoIndeed 11-18-2016 11:28 AM

Put a link

Weeno 11-19-2016 01:11 PM

Geno dont forget that u do sfx i really wanna hear some new gun sounds

GenoIndeed 11-19-2016 10:48 PM

Ill be mainly making them for upcoming guns, also, im getting my new audio setup so theyll be high quality, i can do a lot with my current setup tho, but im sure my new headphones will be even better lol

Melon* 11-26-2016 01:18 AM

http://ix-guns-graal.weebly.com/uplo...t-46s_orig.gif
I made this :)

List 11-26-2016 01:20 AM

Thats actually really cool!

Weeno 11-26-2016 01:44 AM

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Posted by Melon* (Post 743587)

It looks really. Not fitting for zone. The glow thing is just something to give it a cool factor and there's little to no shading.sry I get really picky sometimes when it comes to gfx because everything in zone is already bad enough

WreX 11-26-2016 01:52 AM

the blue color is just horrible tbh and the animation make it worse its not good for the eyes use better colors or just remove the blue it ruin the gun @melon*

Skt A. Sangue 11-26-2016 01:53 AM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 743591)
It looks really. Not fitting for zone. The glow thing is just something to give it a cool factor and there's little to no shading.sry I get really picky sometimes when it comes to gfx because everything in zone is already bad enough

"It looks really"
I'm ded weeners.

I like it actually. I agree that the glow is kinda just overdone, but it'd be a nice gani for when it shoots at the least.

I like the no shading actually... but that's just me and my colorblindness. Have you seen anything i've made? no shading on those either.

(Oh how I miss having all these spaces between points)

But yea, it's not bad. Like not even decent, it's really good. It kinda reminds me of them rippers but in like an AR form.

Weeno 11-26-2016 02:19 AM

To me I want to see good gfx on this game with proper shading and all that. Which is kinda impossible since there's barely any good gfx admins. In fact there isn't any. Except Tay she's good

WreX 11-26-2016 02:23 AM

what about knobu ik him and he is good he made the turkey vip

Melon* 11-26-2016 02:30 AM

Thank you guys for the feedback I'll update it later. :)

I would have to disagree with you on the gun not fitting for zone because this gun has a similar color scheme to the Ap Ripper's Ion Pistol skin.
Edit: I can slow down the glow so you guys don't end up having a seizure.

Weeno 11-26-2016 03:06 AM

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Posted by Melon* (Post 743601)
I would have to disagree with you on the gun not fitting for zone because this gun has a similar color scheme to the Ap Ripper's Ion Pistol skin.

I don't like the guns like rippers. I like bright wacky guns not dark modern guns. My kinda style guns are the ones like lr pulsar, streamer, plasma chaingun, those colorful ones. But that's my personal taste

List 11-26-2016 03:11 AM

how about we forget all this and make arbitar auction tier

Melon* 12-02-2016 03:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by Melon* (Post 743601)
Thank you guys for the feedback I'll update it later. :)

I would have to disagree with you on the gun not fitting for zone because this gun has a similar color scheme to the Ap Ripper's Ion Pistol skin.
Edit: I can slow down the glow so you guys don't end up having a seizure.

I've finished fixing it
Here it is!
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http://melongun.weebly.com/uploads/9...64s-redo-2.gif

Weeno 12-02-2016 04:21 AM

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Posted by Melon* (Post 745330)
I've finished fixing it
Here it is!
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http://melongun.weebly.com/uploads/9...64s-redo-2.gif

There's no contrast between colors. At all.

PigParty 12-02-2016 12:54 PM

It looks solidly black. I can't click on the image so all I can do is zoom in and it still looks solidly black.

WreX 12-02-2016 02:39 PM

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Posted by Melon* (Post 745330)
I've finished fixing it
Here it is!
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http://melongun.weebly.com/uploads/9...64s-redo-2.gif

the blue is rly bad also its better without this wierd animation that no one will notice use better blue and maybe remove or add better animation

PigParty 12-02-2016 02:46 PM

@Melon* I'm not sure if you're doing this but when I was practicing GFX, I learned that you have to look at the image zoomed out while you're making it. The size it is on these forums is the size it will be in-game. It might look better zoomed in, but you have to make it knowing that it will be zoomed out a lot in-game.

Weeno 12-02-2016 09:39 PM

Hey why'd u remove the paragon trails they were actually pretty cool. Oh and also I wanna mention a lot of the "assault" weapons have a really medium firing rate

GenoIndeed 12-02-2016 10:56 PM

The hit box was messed up. And ik, im working on the rofs now, theyre bugged

Melon* 12-04-2016 07:09 PM

Lol your right. I just realized I crushed the blacks @PigParty. Btw I'm new to gfx. I really messed up on the side views :(

Melon* 12-04-2016 08:42 PM

I tried....
http://ix-guns-graal.weebly.com/uplo...64s-redo-3.gif
Old One
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http://ix-guns-graal.weebly.com/uplo...t-46s_orig.gif

PigParty 12-04-2016 08:49 PM

The new one looks much better!

Quote:

Posted by Melon* (Post 745922)
Lol your right. I just realized I crushed the blacks @PigParty. Btw I'm new to gfx. I really messed up on the side views :(

The only way to get better is to keep practicing. You should post your GFX in the GFX subsection to get criticism from people who are extremely good at GFX.

Melon* 12-04-2016 10:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by PigParty (Post 745944)
The new one looks much better!



The only way to get better is to keep practicing. You should post your GFX in the GFX subsection to get criticism from people who are extremely good at GFX.

Thanks I'll do that when I make new things :)


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