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Rolense 07-17-2016 08:50 AM

Shop names
 
Is it really necessary to name shops with the actual player who made? I am not against it. Just asking. I already saw some people who named the shop with their name and when I read the description of hat it has still their name. Like whaaat? I admire people who made it but, yeah.

Skyzer 07-17-2016 10:33 AM

Can you give a reason why they shouldn't be named like they are?

Rolense 07-17-2016 10:50 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 724242)
Can you give a reason why they shouldn't be named like they are?

They can name their work as their own in the forum.
Ahm I got 99 problems but it aint one.
im asking dude.

Skyzer 07-17-2016 11:33 AM

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Posted by Rolense (Post 724249)
They can name their work as their own in the forum.
Ahm I got 99 problems but it aint one.
im asking dude.

Is it necessary? No, but there's nothing wrong with it. There being alternative methods of showing who made the hats is not a reason why people shouldn't name their shops as they do.

Chelterrar 07-21-2016 11:24 AM

Shop names
 
I personally dislike a server that has staff statues, personal shops and the staff names everywhere. Like I despise it. It seems so unprofessional. Great you made a hat, but that doesn't entitle you to a hat shop. You don't have people like the ZPs have shops with "their" stuff. Yet they also contribute to the server. Or let's say levels team. They probably build your shop, but in the end it will still be your shop. Working on a server means contributing for it. There is no reason for endless prestigious staff statues all over the place. I once counted 24 staff statues in a range of 5 levels (not naming the server obviously). You contribute all your work for the server like everyone else. As a staff member you gain privileges and I personally don't think statues and shops need to be one of them

PigParty 07-21-2016 11:31 AM

I don't care on PC servers but iOS servers should be more professional. @Chelt might wanna rename some hat shops on Zone then :)

Chelterrar 07-21-2016 11:33 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 724995)
I don't care on PC servers but iOS servers should be more professional. @Chelt might wanna rename some hat shops on Zone then :)


I already took care of that. But rename won't be necessary. It will do itself some day ;)

Skyzer 07-21-2016 11:46 AM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 724994)
I personally dislike a server that has staff statues, personal shops and the staff names everywhere. Like I despise it. It seems so unprofessional. Great you made a hat, but that doesn't entitle you to a hat shop. You don't have people like the ZPs have shops with "their" stuff. Yet they also contribute to the server. Or let's say levels team. They probably build your shop, but in the end it will still be your shop. Working on a server means contributing for it. There is no reason for endless prestigious staff statues all over the place. I once counted 24 staff statues in a range of 5 levels (not naming the server obviously). You contribute all your work for the server like everyone else. As a staff member you gain privileges and I personally don't think statues and shops need to be one of them

Shut up. Zone is stupid.

Chelterrar 07-21-2016 12:12 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 724999)
Shut up. Zone is stupid.



Then don't play it. I just gave my comment on it, jeez

Skyzer 07-21-2016 12:34 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 725005)
Then don't play it. I just gave my comment on it, jeez

Funny that you'd think I'd play it at all.

Mangsi 07-21-2016 02:36 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 725009)
Funny that you'd think I'd play it at all.

Stop trying to be better than everyone by bringing up the fact that you REFUSE to play any Graal server in every single conversation.
We get it, all Graal servers suck ass in your opinion. Now shut up about it and find something else to complain about.

Bryan* 07-21-2016 06:08 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 725021)
Stop trying to be better than everyone by bringing up the fact that you REFUSE to play any Graal server in every single conversation.
We get it, all Graal servers suck ass in your opinion. Now shut up about it and find something else to complain about.

Zone does suck though

Skyzer 07-22-2016 02:35 AM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 725021)
Stop trying to be better than everyone by bringing up the fact that you REFUSE to play any Graal server in every single conversation.
We get it, all Graal servers suck ass in your opinion. Now shut up about it and find something else to complain about.

I don't think you do get it.

WaFFL3Cake 07-23-2016 03:55 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 724995)
I don't care on PC servers but iOS servers should be more professional.

I like seeing some of the shops named after who made them. I think it's cool looking them up afterwards, even if it's not a shop, but a house or guild house on the map belonging to someone. Years ago, I thought Gemini was just some random NPC that was made up. Later on, I found out he used to play Graal, and then it was cooler when i found out that he was in Rommiel. This is my opinion for ios servers.

It depends on the pc server. If it was UN i wouldnt care either way. Or if it was zodiac i wouldnt mind; however, if it was maloria, i would be against naming the buildings being named after players since it has more of an rpg feel to it which transcends graal.

Weeno 07-23-2016 04:06 PM

I don't want 90% of zones buildings to be ego based shops made for admins.

Chelterrar 07-24-2016 01:22 AM

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Posted by WaFFL3Cake (Post 725392)
I like seeing some of the shops named after who made them. I think it's cool looking them up afterwards, even if it's not a shop, but a house or guild house on the map belonging to someone. Years ago, I thought Gemini was just some random NPC that was made up. Later on, I found out he used to play Graal, and then it was cooler when i found out that he was in Rommiel. This is my opinion for ios servers.

It depends on the pc server. If it was UN i wouldnt care either way. Or if it was zodiac i wouldnt mind; however, if it was maloria, i would be against naming the buildings being named after players since it has more of an rpg feel to it which transcends graal.



Yet you have to see it this way. Something on graal is normally created by a whole team. The level was made by the lats, the things sold were made by the gfx artists, ganied by the Gani Team, scripted by the developers and scripters. Even the background music has been made by someone. The whole client was scripted by someone else. So where do we stop this? How do we decide whom to honor. We can't place 200 staff statues in every level or name 200 shops after a staff team. The team consists over years. People come and go. And for example, where is the Support in all of this, no matter if they are called GM, ZP, PR, GP, etc.

People also raised the question to pay people about the work they've done. But how does on judge the worthiness of a level in money. Or of a script. Or of a Gani. Some people invest more time, while others do a quick but messy result, just to get the bonus.

Rolense 07-24-2016 12:11 PM

Quote:

Posted by Chelterrar (Post 724994)
I personally dislike a server that has staff statues, personal shops and the staff names everywhere. Like I despise it. It seems so unprofessional. Great you made a hat, but that doesn't entitle you to a hat shop. You don't have people like the ZPs have shops with "their" stuff. Yet they also contribute to the server. Or let's say levels team. They probably build your shop, but in the end it will still be your shop. Working on a server means contributing for it. There is no reason for endless prestigious staff statues all over the place. I once counted 24 staff statues in a range of 5 levels (not naming the server obviously). You contribute all your work for the server like everyone else. As a staff member you gain privileges and I personally don't think statues and shops need to be one of them

Finally someone spoke for me. I wasn't reading it all but, look at the first sentence it already touched my ass! thank you!

Elk 07-24-2016 01:20 PM

i always disliked this too, the shops end up dead either way

id rather come up with a fictional person and name if after that

like Baba Yaga's Apothecary (alchemy)

Warren Linen (tailor)

and so on


was never a fan of fame-oriented things... it gives players the wrong impression of having responsability over something, thinking they could just make a hatshop if they become admin or w/e

G Fatal 07-24-2016 03:37 PM

Croc shop lol.Personally not keen on naming after themselves although It's okay if its a few not like taking over the server with lots of them, I think if the person has made everything i.e the level/s, hats/items etc then why shouldn't they be allowed it called that.. The only thing I dislike about it is when staff leave or just go and make there own shop then leave within a week or something then it should be renamed.

Rolense 07-29-2016 09:51 AM

Btway I also hate when some lats (if they ever put the hats on the shop) the same hats as recolored I mean, like in a one LARGE table it is all the same hats (just recolored). I mean just copy the style of classic shops. It won't affect the themed server.


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