Giving teachers the right to bear arms
 

Let's just get this out of the way. Everything has their pros and cons. Nobody is saying this would 100% guarantee ours or the schools safety. For all we know, that same teacher given the firearm could even pull the trigger on a student if he handed in his work late or came in late to class. What do you guys think?

Source: http://dailysignal.com/2016/03/01/co...aled-handguns/

Guns shouldn't be in schools, period.

Giving teachers the right to bear arms
 

I actually agree with it.

No.

Using guns as a deterrent to potential gun violence isn't going to solve anything.

Its like back in the Cold War, building more nukes isn't going to prevent nuclear war but increase the intensity of it should it actually take place.

Also, I wouldn't trust 99% of teachers with a gun to protect me or anybody.

I've got teachers old enough to be my great-grandparents so they'll be super helpful when in a dangerous situation like a school shooting.

Guns don't kill people.

Gators do.

Ban Fully Automatic Assault Gators

"Lets stop people that use guns for violence with our guns and violence!"

Why is this even up for debate? Guns shouldn't be a thing in schools, if safety is what the situation is increase security.

Isn't that why we have cops in school?


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Problem is there's usually only one, and they can often be targeted first if someone wants to cause mass casualty. They're also sometimes not the best people for protecting kids... I agree with arming teachers, but they would need a lot of checks and protections. Teachers would have to work full-time, no substitutes could have guns. They would need to go through required gun safety and usage training, plus go through a yearly psych evaluation. Plus guns would need to be locked away at all times in a secure drawer or cabinet, and teachers could not be forced to do it, only if they choose to. Plus the obvious background check at the beginning.

Yeah my school has this one cop that keeps an eye on things but usually she's just talkin with the teachers not really doing anything.

I think its sort of redundant since that cop could be out in the field possibly dealing with more important matters than babysitting highschool students.

I don't know about you, but about 90% of my teachers in highschool were gun hating liberals. I do however support more schools having SRO's, its just a much better and more logical alternative.

You guys have cops in your schools.......... ????¿¿¿¿

In my highschool had a cop. It was mainly because we had student parking and people would speed of just be stupid drivers.

Plus I live in Texas. We love them guns.

But my school really wasn't ghetto. We had school fights every so often. We had security as well. Mainly to make sure outside people don't get in and well kids skipping.

Actually my school is pretty non-ghetto, its actually considered the "rich kid" school in my area.

Its just that my county makes some pretty asinine decisions about the schools like grading policy and days off.

I mean yes we had school shootings but we don't have that many. Isn't like we have one every month. My highschool had a kid bring a letter opener and cut a student. Only bad thing that happen in my highschool or school life. For about what 30 years the school has been open. Even longer


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I wouldn't want my kid to grow up in an environment where all of his/her teachers deem it necessary to equip firearms, there should be no guns in school unless it is held by a school/local police officer or security guard

Because some people are agreeing and disagreeing to this topic. So that makes it a debate.

Pretty lousy debate considering 0 people have given any reason to having armed teachers and staff in their schools.

If a cop is allowed to hold a gun than you should have no problem with a teacher doing so.

Here, read this.*http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wit...ed-man-reason/

And there are more situations like this as well. You can't always trust police officers and keep believing they're some sort o saints or something. You have to see things for what they are and know you can't trust anyone because the minute you turn you back to them, bang, your dead.

I am! I'm not a ghost okay! Sheez!
And I think Illusions agreed to it as well so get your facts straight son!

Lmao, what?

Cops have actual training and protocol to use firearms.

And teachers? Haha, no.

Also, that article you posted is obviously biased since not every police officer is crooked.

A wild cop does something stupid and now every cop is the same?

Well ****, a teacher had a relationship with their student. I guess now all teachers are now *********s.

The specific job of a police offer is to enforce the law and work to protect civilians, I don't think cops need to be stationed in schools to begin with, but if the case is that they are then it makes more sense for them to be the ones to wield firearms as opposed to teachers whose sole job is to teach and nothing more

A police officers life revolves around this sort of a thing, a teachers does not.

You posted an article and added nothing else. GG 10/10 gr8 input.

Illusions just said he agreed and provided no reason or rhyme.

Typical.

Who said you can't train teachers to shoot? They did it in the Walking Dead, so they should be able to do it in schools.

Nice logic there, buddo.

Yes, you should totally have a problem with that. Police Officers' jobs kinda rely on the ability to operate a firearm, teachers are glorified babysitters. Huge difference in qualifications.

troll confirmed

Well if that's the case, I need more officers in my school. I think I have only one or two which certainly isn't enough to protect over a thousand of students.

I say let them have guns. Would make some interesting news

Pretty normal in america, usually help in case of fights and such.

wait, kids can have guns in america? What? why?
Cops in schools?
what

i mean i heard of kids shooting up their schools but is that a frequent thing, is that y u guys need cops in schools?
thats actually pretty ****ing terrifying

We ain't paying teachers enough to teach us. I wouldn't want to put more stress on them needing to pull a trigger if that ever happens which to me us 1% chance if it isn't a ghetto area


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No. That never happens. Only a few cases. Kids aren't allowed to have guns. You have to be I believe 18 in areas.

Cops are mainly for fights. So they can issues tickets or arrest them and take them in. Mainly just to make sure everything goes as it should.

I never had a shooting in my area.

Here in the case of a fight our teachers just go Super Saiyan and intervene (they don't use agressive violence, but they hold the right to use whatever force nessecary to seperate students).

Here a student recieves a suspension by the board and nothing more, police are only brought in if an outside party presses charges.

No, federal law requires you to be 18 to purchase a gun, and most states have restrictions on top of that. Weapons of any sort also aren't allowed in schools unless they are carried by officers or under special circumstances.

My school required an officer present to search a student (drugs, weapons).

It's less about students shooting up schools, and more about students being in gangs. It is to a point where teachers are risking their lives to teach in some places in the US.

Guns look like the problem to people outside of the US, but there are a lot more factors.

I mean there were a lot of school shootings the past year(s), and there is usually just 1-2 cops in the whole entire school (I think at least), but I still don't know if I'm fully on the YES side to giving teachers the right to bear arms

heard those wierdos even have metal detectors outside of the schools I mean shooting ranges

I don't see why not. If the teacher wants to have a gun, I say go for it. I'm not saying it should be mandatory for teachers to have guns, but if the teacher wants to go through the training and such in order to have a gun ready in case of emergency then why not? Couldn't make the situation any worse. If people don't want their kids exposed to that kind of thing I'm sure there are plenty of other gun-free schools to choose from.

Now without using insults, I am open to have a nice discussion with anyone who might disagree.

I disagree. I think that having a weapon should be a responsibility held by campus security and SRO's. If a teacher is going to have a weapon that will be useful in an emergency situation, then it would need to be stored in the classroom, which (even if it is in a locked container) would make it much easier for a student to get a hold of.

Makes much more sense to keep firearms on the person of trained security and police.

I do think the teacher should go through training before being able to have a firearm in the classroom, but I don't think it should be limited to just security or police. Many schools don't have either of those. If someone starts shooting in one of those schools, the only defense the students and teachers have is a locked door. The only downside I can think of is it would be easier for students to get a hold of the weapon, but even that seems unlikely if the teacher can find a secure place to keep it.

my old school had panic buttons in each rooms and about 10 cops, it wasnt a ghetto school at all but they always prepared

ya im stayin outta this one lol

Americans are dumb as fk.

'Hey lets arm another person, but still go on about mass shootings'
Like the only place that has multiple mass shootings going on over and over. y'all don't even need a guns, protection my arse.

Seems like you don't understand what freedom is. As an American, I don't quite like my rights being taken from me, be it for security or no. You can call that dumb, but don't be upset when I call you dumb for giving up your freedoms.

The United States is a Democracy. If Americans truly want to get rid of guns, guns would be restricted. However, there are more issues to deal with than just regulating guns.

I've watched enough action movies to know that this is a great idea. It helps that the bad guys have horrible aim while the good guys (teachers) can take the wings off a fly from a 100 yards out.

Since 2013, there have been at least 188 school shootings in America resulting in 60+ deaths. Definitely far from only a few cases.

There have always been guns in the US. What's making people shoot **** up now?

Vine

How the hell is having a gun freedom lmfao!

We are free to have a gun if we want. Pretty simple concept there.

There is few countries that allow you to have a gun (if license for it). not just in America.besides on that logic isis is free to have guns bomb people do what the fk they want(basically the same thing-with extremists)just they don't go off a parliament/government type thing.