House Top3
 

Hello everyone,
I'm writting today to ask something that I think, in my opinion, is really important.
Since it takes time, much time and money, maybe none of you is in possession of a ~200k gralats house ( Axel74 house maybe) . Here is a proof that people like it, you don't know how long it took me to get such a big house with about 30 status of deferent type of admins and every Graal's quests explication to complete them, in French since I'm French and everything in this game is English so I guess I'm helping French players.

Why would this leaderboard not get a simple trophy ? :'(
This is the only one without any rewards, I'm not asking for gralats or a furniture, like sparring or killing leaderboard but just a trophy for the top 3 Rating House.

Also I'd like to know what you all think about that idea. Sincerely ~

The house leaderboard is there to provide an easy way to find cool houses, not necessarily as a competition. Not to mention the fact that placement is determined by the community instead of statistics turns it into a popularity contest instead of relevant to actual content. This is evident by some of the houses being pretty high up with nothing actually in them.

Are u that #1 house French guy?

Yep :)

So why would you make it as a leaderboard if they're all rewarded and not this one, you'd make an other way to make good houses famous in Graal
You can't even be in the top 3 house rated if you're house is empty, it seems to be impossible.

Gets recognition...still wants a prize. Something that isn't even skill-based...

As much as I would love prizes for amazing looking houses, the voting can be rigged through advertisement and guilelessness of players.

I believe a person's house was rated top 3 the first week and it was completely empty. Now some people say that it was an abstract artistic choice, but others wouldn't.

Dégages tu pues ;p

personne t'a dit de dépenser 200k pour ta maison pour qu'a la fin tu viennes réclamer un trophée.

Dans ce cas la tout le monde fait pareil, dépense de l'argent fait une jolie maison Super Utile et réclame ensuite un du.

K let's see your awesome house with no effort or skills... It's just a different skill set than some are gifted. That said, there's a lot of no-good houses out there (in top 50 out of thousands, even) that just get there by advertising 24 hours a day (apparently leaving their devices on and somehow not disconnecting?) in order to gain the most exposure OR creating multiple accounts to divert attention to their main.

I am hoping that the 'seasonal leaderboard' in this area of the game will have one of two effects - reducing the number of players who advertise poorly made houses after the first season ends with no prize or creating more of an acclaim for those who do choose to advertise through creating a specific set of design criteria and/or a more elaborate function of house-design in game, potentially leading to a more complex, judged, rewards-based competition later on.

Maybe both!

Au bout de 2 ans il est normal d'avoir une maison qui a de la valeur

Je dis juste pourquoi mettre les maisons dans le menu ou l'icône est un trophee si il n'y a rien a gagné ;)

It isn't a competition, it is just a cool feature to browse houses. Relax.

All that's in my house is a "Vault Room" (all my guild hats) and a shrine to myself because I'm that arrogant. Anyways, you do not need a prize for decorating a house, you get enough recognition in the leaderboards itself. Regardless, the system for it is fixed. No dislike button. Players can honestly just make noob accounts and spam like the crap out of their houses.

Either way, you don't need a hat or a furniture prize for decorating a house. You get enough recognition if you're listed on the leaderboards.

Pour être complètement honnête, je crois qu'au lieu de se concentrer sur des trucs comme ça, les admins devraient se concentrer sur d'autres choses.
Par exemple recréé le ctf.
Si on se met à donner des trophées pour les maisons, il va falloir en donner pour les loots, les insectes, etc.
Si ta maison est sur le leaderboard bah compte toi chanceux et profite en.
Si on se met à donner des trophées à tout le monde, le trophée devient inutile.
En plus, quand on y pense, le trophée pour les oeufs de pâques disparait dès le pâque suivant. Tu vas avoir un trophée pour une saison et si tu n'es pas dans le leaderboard l'année suivante tu le perd. Yay...
En ce moment ce que les admins sont entrain de faire c'est surtout d'encourager les joueurs à mieux communiquer/jouer entre eux.
Si les maisons ont un leaderboard, c'est tout simplement parce que l'on tient en compte le côté social du jeu. Cependant, si tu donne des récompense pour ça... Tu perd la raison pour laquelle tu créé le leaderboard.

Son, I was getting recognition for my house without leaderboards. :P

In fact, even with the leaderboard in place, I haven't changed my basic activity, except maybe enthusiasm for changing the layout more. If there were a reward that were somehow implemented in such a way to discourage this swarm of random empty/novice houses from crowding the streets, it would be for the best.

I'm not sure I agree with no prizes. PKing and Baddy Killing arguably don't take skill, just time. Although house ratings can easily be exploited, as we've seen, unlike PKing and Baddy Killing.

Pking can be exploited, I don't see how you could exploit baddy killing but I'm sure someone knows.
Sure pking and bking don't take that much skills, but the thing is: you cannot buy kills. Giving prizes for house would be like telling them pay for prize.
Classic isn't era. You don't pay to get better, you pay to get overpriced hats.

PKing is not skill based. All you do is mash the same button over and over until you feel like stopping. Anybody can get to 100k if they were motivated to do it and had the time to do it.

Go try boosting PKs and see how long it takes until you're caught.

Yes, but it takes skills to let's say kill 10 person in a row without dying.
What they mean by skill based is mostly something that reflects how much you've played. Sure a noob can get 12k. But in order to get 12k he'll have to actually play the game.
The house... you could have 10k hours have spent 2million on an house, someone with 2 hours could buy x numbers of gralat packs and have a better house.

If the system was perfect there wouldn't be any exploit.
Just because people get caught, doesn't mean everyone will stop doing it.

2h of riot = 800-900 kills

Pretty sure 1 hour of mod pking can get you 500 pk easy as well.

Good luck trying to place on the leaderboards by boosting.

You're still killing players who can defend themselves and are probably contributing to the killing themselves. I don't see a problem there.

Hitting everywhere with a sword is more worth a thophy than building an entire house ? Nice.

Boosting can be seen differently from person to person, but pk bridge riot pretty much is one hell of a pk exploit. After all if someone(who may not know about unstuck me and unstick me) gets stuck in there, he's going to get killed atleast 10 times before getting out. Spawning inside the giant blob riot was probably the worst experience I've had, people get trapped and are simply killed over and over. I'd call that exploit wouldn't you?

Parce que tout le monde peut faire ça.
Faire une maison et arriver sur le leaderboard prend beaucoup de gralats, de temps/popularité. Ce n'est pas tout le monde qui peut dépenser 100k gralats pour une maison.

Boosting has a pretty clear definition. PK riots are not boosting.

Yea but there are different ways of boosting that one is a "clean" way to boost you kills. What you say boosting you talk about the "unclean" way of boosting.
Pking a tower for an hour is a "clean" way of boosting.
Pking your noob account of an hour is an "unclean" way of boosting.

That's irrelevant. If I'm trying to get 100k I won't care about how many times I die (I think that wanting to have more kills than deaths is lame).

No. Boosting is killing the same willing account with the intention to get kills. Any other form of PKing isn't boosting.

Houses are irrelevant, but they have a leaderboard.
What does it take to make a house: Gralats
What does it take to get 100k pk: Time
When people say pk is skill base, it's because that's something that you make on your own. I don't think anyone on graal has a house with a custom house design made by himself, all of his furniture made by himself. From what I know, to make a house you need gralats. To get kills you need to play.
You won't be able to buy kills, but you'll be able to buy chairs. Decorating houses is based on gralats. No skill is required in farming or buying gralat pack.Sure swinging a sword around all the time doesn't require skills, but even if it is irrelevant to get 10 kills in a row without dying, it's a bigger achievement than buying 10 chairs in a row. As a matter of fact having 100k pk also is irrelevant.
Let's go even deeper: Why play graal? Once you die all that you've done will be meaningless.

Why is Colin always editing your posts?

Seen several people argue that house-building 'skill' is through purchasing power only. I can't count the number of places I have seen which have a TON more furniture than I have, but are arranged like a garbage dump. The creativity and artistic skill in laying out even a dozen furniture objects comes with practice and dedication that firing a bow and arrow into a crowd does not even come close to.

Additionally, the ability to buy a gralat pack does not make an effective or entertaining selection of furniture. Long-standing players who have not succumbed to the temptation of selling their older items may be able to attest to this - you can tell when some one has bought a pack and spent it on furniture. They will have a dozen of the same object... a full complete set from ONE nexus or potentially a bunch of repeated objects from the basic, long standing set, but nothing else of note. A collection that grows over time is unique and related to the taste of the collector, seeing as though there is yet no trading in the game.

When you have unique, older items in a collection it becomes apparent that you are not just an entitled kid who bought some 'skill.'

For the record I have never bought a gralat pack... and am currently #11 on the month leaderboard for housing. I invite you all to stop by and see my place (not for likes), then compare with the #1. You may see what I am talking about... or not. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.

LOL OML

Boy, I do not give a rat's ass how much attention you were getting before or after the leaderboard's has been implemented. A prize for something such as House Decorating can easily be fixated or exploited since it's purely based off pressing a like button.

The only add-on I'd like to see that benefits everyone is more new house layouts instead of the default ones we have.

Re-posted, as it was on previous page and some one missed it :)

It's not even about skill. It's the fact one is determined by statistics and one is determined by community.

Anyway, the rating house leaderboard is part of the main menu which has a trophy as its icon, stop arguing

You're not getting a prize. The entire house rating thing is pointless anyways.
Shouldn't being in the top three be enough?

Perhaps if they were to add a trophy for the house leaderboard, it could be a furniture trophy? Just a small one (A bit bigger than those skull candles from Swamptown fleamarket) and only for the top 3. Just to say "We appreciate you dropping $50 bucks on iTunes gift cards for furniture!"

I bought some gralat packs and a guild house.... I just felt like playing for years that I kinda owed graal a few bucks

Fire me a message online if you'd like to see my shanty. It ain't much but its home :D

By far best house design that I've seen. Bastablook is the player's name.

Reminds me of minecraft
http://i.imgur.com/MesIw1D.png

Forgot about the lava house. Still very nice house.
http://i.imgur.com/GhlV6dP.png

Theres no carpet there thats the floor agugo

Either he copied someone or someone copied him but Dark Assiste has the same layout😉

Here comes the who copied who?

DANG that really is good and simple.

Wtf are those stairs made out of!?

admen powers.

Another reason why it'd be a bad idea.
Anyone can pk and get kills, which means anyone can get on the leaderboard!
If most people get on the leaderboard because as you said they have old furniture items. We're pretty much giving an advantage to old players making it unfair. Also there are some pretty great houses out there, but because they're not popular enough/are wearing normal customs(alot of people won't enter someone wearing the noob stuff's house).
They're acknowledging the social part of graal by making a community leaderboard. Shouldn't it be enough? After all the 1k problems you want to make a easily exploitable leaderboard able to give rewards?

I created the layout from scratched but multiple people have asked me if they could use it but no one seems to have exactly replicated it just yet :P Glad you like my style, sneak peak at a future project i'm working on http://i.imgur.com/wI7WTxA.png

So where are the stairs from?? Super old item?

I think those are tables idk :(

then how can ppl walk through