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DeimosCog. 01-21-2012 02:19 AM

Useless admins?
 
I'm severely doubting the efficiency of iGraal staffs. Apparently the majority of admins hired are incompetent self-indulged people, whom not dedicated to their respective position. Honestly, I don't see the point of around 15 GPs, and barely any Devs(Developers) and LAT(Level admin team). At the very least, introduce an ET(Event Team) and follow the steps of iEra.

°Seeker99 01-21-2012 02:30 AM

we alrady hav ge8 eventz liek find teh adiam wit da hatz

DeimosCog. 01-21-2012 02:39 AM

Playing a single events over and over gets boring, agree? Should introduce several events from PC Graal. I personally recommend Backstab, CTF(admin hosted), 3rd strike, Sumo, etc.

MattKan 01-21-2012 02:59 AM

I agree, iClassic should have events, too.

Talon 01-21-2012 03:09 AM

iClassic staff are definitely self-indulged, save very few of them. The vast majority of them use PM privacy, and when they don't, they won't respond. Like Higbey once said - "To get an iClassic staff to listen to you, you'll have to hold their family for ransom. Anything less probably won't work.

Ash Ketchum 01-21-2012 03:17 AM

iClassic pride madafakkaazzz

callimuc 01-21-2012 04:37 AM

A long time ago, there was a guy called Azrael. Once he seemed like that he checked a thread which included the suggestion that there should be a new town with eventīs. He promised all the little children all around the world, that there will be a new town with events. Sadly he never mentioned any date which got little kids thinking there will be a new town within 3 weeks. Well this is about 3 months ago and the little kids are still waiting for big daddy to release something.

If he didnīt die yet, he will probably check this thread soon.


Anyway they seem to be fine. If you donīt like them just ignore them

Tyler 01-21-2012 04:47 AM

There's nothing wrong with the staff. They do their job and respond to reports and questions. I keep my pms open to anyone in case they have a question about something. I do block people who spam me over and over without giving me a chance to reply. Just because there's many GP's, doesn't mean they're all on at the same time. Usually only a certain amount are on at a time. Azrael already explained that LAT's are welcome. I think there's just not enough people experienced enough to take on the job.

Skyzer 01-21-2012 06:49 AM

Quote:

Useless admins?
All of them?

Gambit Drakul 01-21-2012 09:39 AM

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Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 59534)
There's nothing wrong with the staff. They do their job and respond to reports and questions. I keep my pms open to anyone in case they have a question about something. I do block people who spam me over and over without giving me a chance to reply. Just because there's many GP's, doesn't mean they're all on at the same time. Usually only a certain amount are on at a time. Azrael already explained that LAT's are welcome. I think there's just not enough people experienced enough to take on the job.

OR they're just hiring GP's (which we already have more than enough) and aren't focusing on something else.
I for one think we need to add an Events Team,That will make it atleast a lot less boring.

Ash Ketchum 01-21-2012 09:43 AM

How would you know if they are useless unless you stalk them everytime they're on o.o

Who knows, maybe they are banning hackers and glitchers and stalking noobs.

oh and the reason why admins don't reply to pms is because the question was probably stupid or they are doing their job

Gambit Drakul 01-21-2012 09:45 AM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 59618)
How would you know if they are useless unless you stalk them everytime they're on o.o

Who knows, maybe they are banning hackers and glitchers and stalking noobs.

Even so it's not like that takes up a lot of time.

Pazx 01-21-2012 10:17 AM

iClassic has the highest playercount of ALL graal servers doesn't it? You'd think they'd try and get some staff from the dieing PC servers. Bringing ideas from those servers to iClassic would be awesome.

Gambit Drakul 01-21-2012 10:41 AM

Yes,But some iClassic staff who haven't even heard of PC Graal would quickly deny it saying "Well this isn't pc this is iPod."If we were to bring some ideas from PC to iClassic.

TAKACHI 01-21-2012 11:05 AM

yer they never respond , + there should be events

Maxy 01-21-2012 03:43 PM

Some admins are really inactive and don't go on for days you should do checks on then

BboyEatsbacon 01-21-2012 03:44 PM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 59622)
iClassic has the highest playercount of ALL graal servers doesn't it?

Actually, iEra has recently gotten a higher playercount than iClassic. =D

Apple 01-21-2012 04:06 PM

I adressed this while on magic tag talking to ari and nick and other staff and they instantly kicked me because I brought this subject up.. things need to change..

Tyler 01-21-2012 04:14 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 59659)
Actually, iEra has recently gotten a higher playercount than iClassic. =D

They're noth neck and neck. Everytime I check I see Classic has a little more people than Era, but Era's playercount has risen significantly.

snk 01-21-2012 04:38 PM

cool

MattKan 01-21-2012 05:22 PM

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Posted by snk (Post 59670)
cool

geddouyt u uesles adiam

DeimosCog. 01-21-2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by TylerMysTe (Post 59534)
There's nothing wrong with the staff. They do their job and respond to reports and questions. I keep my pms open to anyone in case they have a question about something. I do block people who spam me over and over without giving me a chance to reply. Just because there's many GP's, doesn't mean they're all on at the same time. Usually only a certain amount are on at a time. Azrael already explained that LAT's are welcome. I think there's just not enough people experienced enough to take on the job.

Like I said, LAT are a rarity on this server and 15 GPs aren't needed to supplement a single server. Might as well simplify it and deduce it to a lower amount. At the most, 6-8 GPs actually dedicated to their jobs are enough. Of course, each a scheduled shift.

Ash Ketchum 01-22-2012 01:43 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 59659)
Actually, iEra has recently gotten a higher playercount than iClassic. =D

Nope, chuck testa.

Lockdown 01-22-2012 02:41 AM

I think they have an Events Team though. Aren't Ellybelly and Aikan in charge of it?

Notorious# 01-22-2012 03:58 AM

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Posted by Lockdown (Post 59870)
I think they have an Events Team though. Aren't Ellybelly and Aikan in charge of it?

Hide N Seek doesn't count as an event.

Gambit Drakul 01-22-2012 05:54 AM

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Posted by Lockdown (Post 59870)
I think they have an Events Team though. Aren't Ellybelly and Aikan in charge of it?

Ummm no.

Shock 01-22-2012 06:02 AM

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Posted by DeimosCog. (Post 59692)
Like I said, LAT are a rarity on this server and 15 GPs aren't needed to supplement a single server. Might as well simplify it and deduce it to a lower amount. At the most, 6-8 GPs actually dedicated to their jobs are enough. Of course, each a scheduled shift.

With a growing player count, they will be necessary.

Virus 01-22-2012 04:24 PM

What you guys are failing to understand is that doing events would take a LOT of work. They could just copy the script from iEra, but I don't think that SNK would approve of that. Even so, if we had an Events Team on the server to host live events, they would be spammed senseless to host events every five seconds, and the events that DO get hosted would get filled up so quickly that players who didn't make it would get mad and start feedbacking nonsense like "OMG WHY DIDN'T I GET TO PLAY YOU GUYS SUCK I CLICKED YES SO FAST AFTER I READ THE MESSAGE WHY DIDN'T I GET TO PLAY" and so forth.

I do think that the server needs events other than hide and seek, but you guys have forgot that Matt (iPanda) has lately been doing juggernaut with his guild, Akashi. This is exactly how events SHOULD be done because there are normal players who are somewhat 'hosting' the event, and because there are more of them, they can spread out and confuse people, instead of one Staff member in swamp town being PK spammed.

MattKan 01-22-2012 05:27 PM

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Posted by Maxy (Post 59658)
Some admins are really inactive and don't go on for days you should do checks on then

Sometimes 14 days at a time. I'm thinking one in particular, but he / she won't be fired due to good relations with one of the PRA's.

Guess who?

Virus 01-22-2012 05:30 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 60063)

Guess who?

Either LilG or Zeke.

Rexx 01-22-2012 07:23 PM

Umm I doubt there will ever be any kind of real events in Classic, what they CAN DO is organize their current random events so it at least seems like a real event.

Have admin sparring for hats on a certain day, switch up which admin does it each time..Hide and seek on a few of the other days, again with alternating admins..juggernaut,trivia etc.

Assign an "event" for each day, have a different admin do the event each time..

MrSimons 01-22-2012 11:17 PM

Oh ya, iClassic never has events because for the last week I was definitely imagining all those rounds of Juggernaut, hide and seek Matt/iPanda did.

Anyway iClassic doesn't need more events that'd cause like Virus said spaaaaammmm. And as for ****ty staff, players have complained about this for ages but the vast majority of the complaints seem to be really dumb with reasons such as:
"I w-was playing da hyde n seak... a-and da da admin n-no gimmie da hat even do I-I gotted der 49th...."
Or
"ADMIN NO BAN DA NOOB FOR TAKING GRALAT MONEY AFTER I SPAM ****ING **** OUTTA HIM!!! FIRE HIM!!! HE NO CARE ABOUT PLAYERS!!!"

Notorious# 01-23-2012 12:10 AM

It's not like the events team can't host a few events at a time.

Yephenpeace 01-23-2012 01:08 AM

So you're saying that staff are useless unless they host events? Why do people care about the number of GPs? It literally does not affect the gameplay at all. Sure it'd be cool to have an events team but i fail to see why your complaining about the current staff...

Pazx 01-23-2012 02:10 AM

People complain about the high number of GPs because they're jealous.

BlaZe 01-23-2012 02:17 AM

I dont see the problem with staff. They do their job! I understand that some people believe there are too many GP's. But sometimes admins are busy and don't have time for their job. So the ones that are active can help. Plus its not like all of them are on at the same time.

I agree. Haha

Kondie 01-23-2012 03:02 AM

Most iClassic staff are abusive and egotistic. They think highly of themselves, give away hats and money to their friends, and think they're the best people in the world. The reality is that they are little tiny ****ing ants that should be crushed. Their whole life is based on a game and when they get fired, suddenly nobody wants to be their friend. What a coincidence.

MattKan 01-23-2012 03:04 AM

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Posted by Virus (Post 60064)
Either LilG or Zeke.

WRONG

__________________________________________________ ________________________________________________

It just seems that on Classic iPhone it takes 20 GPs to do the job of 10.

Oh well.

Skyzer 01-23-2012 04:06 AM

lol@kidswhothinkhide&seekisanevent

Ash Ketchum 01-23-2012 04:50 AM

I'mprettysurehide&seekisagamethatadminsplaybecause theyarenoobs

DragonRider 01-23-2012 07:02 AM

We on iEra have events. Yay! But we have our share of ****ty admins COUGHHOMELESSWITCHCOUGH, but snk does is best to keep the best.

Terver 01-23-2012 07:11 AM

A good event thingy for iClassic would be to hae a building for each event, like what they did with CTF.

Skyzer 01-23-2012 08:17 PM

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Posted by Terver (Post 60371)
A good event thingy for iClassic would be to hae a building for each event, like what they did with CTF.

You mean like every server on Graal PC?

Rexx 01-24-2012 04:58 AM

All admins are futile, let the players RUN WIIILLLDDDD

Godzilla 01-24-2012 05:43 AM

I think the biggest problem is that most of the PC players who actually know what they're doing either don't want anything to do with these projects or just are busy on another server. Just the very way the staff runs around screams arrogance. Staff boots, gold names, the health, pm block (most of them at least), etc. look at the classic PC staff. Theyre players except they develope and ban people. By that I mean most of the time theyre just walking around without boots unless absolutely necessary, te only way you know someone is an admin is from a tag in their name, THEY ANSWER ALL PMS ALMOST IMMEDIATLY AND ARE WILLING TO HELP YOU IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM! Honestly it's so weird going on classic PC asking the MANAGER for help and immediatly getting an answer, then coming here and asking about 5 different GPs without getting any message back. Granted the larger player count makes things harder but honestly the staff need to start answering things more. When I was having problems with my VIP and tried to contact a staff member I couldn't get anything. Multiple staff members. GPs who probably have nothing better to do. When I saw a little bug in the castle quest in classic pc Thor was right there helping me and trying to fix it. The crime rate in iclassic at least has dropped significantly and whenever you report someone for glitching or whatever it may be no ones there even if there are a lot of staff members on. What are they even doing lol. Playing hide and seek and running around showing off? Another thing: whens the last time you've seen a GP walking around without staff boots? They rub around with all this stuff to try and show people how cool they are and make themselves think they're better than everyone else. I honestly think I may have helped more new players in the last month I've been back than some staff members.

Terver 01-24-2012 06:38 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 60500)
You mean like every server on Graal PC?

No, UN does not have an indiviual building for each event. :S

Maxy 01-24-2012 07:30 AM

There's 2 admins I know ne hasn't been active for 8 days and another for 16 days and there's more than having been active for a few days.

Cant you d checks to see how quickly they react?

Troy 01-24-2012 07:50 AM

All admins should open the account everyday.

iDylan 01-24-2012 12:33 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 60272)
WRONG.

Trigger, akain, scorpio.

Skyzer 01-24-2012 06:10 PM

This is what happens when you hire a bunch of kids. They are a small group of people out of thousands, they are going to show off and neglect their responsibilities.


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