Multioptional Spar Stats
 

An option to display any of the following as your spar stats. You choose what you want, and can always change which one you want to be displayed.

Pick one, and that's what will appear on your profile. You can stay with the traditional one, if that's what you prefer.

Your wins and your losses (200-200)

Your wins, and ratio (200 1.0)

Your wins, and showrating symbol (200 @) Not @, but it's an example

Your Wins and PPS (Points per spar) (200 18.0p) Could be cool if you exclusively spar tryhards.

Hide losses, not sure about this one tbh. Could just help selective sparrers... (200)

Also, I am not sure if adding some page where you can check all of these stats at the same time would be good. I mean for public use.

A private page for only you to view all of these stats at the same time would definitely be nice.

The point of this is to not feel bummed out about your stats, and you can choose what you want to display, which ultimately helps out a lot of more casual players spar more.

What do you guys think? Much better, since you can choose?

You literally just made a thread about this and it brang forth no valid points, the amount of disagreement from top level sparrers was off the charts. Why change a system that has been fine for 7 years?

I changed it to this, because I know a lot of people worked hard for their ratio.
So I am now making this one, maybe just having the option to choose from all of these, would be better. You can still show your losses.

This way, people can spar freely. Also, won't feel bad about a ratio, because maybe you have a super high Points per match, "I only spar Tryhards" or your seasonal showrating is high, and you prefer to display that. Can choose whatever.

The current spar ratio shown on your profile does all of the above mentioned suggestions, why change something that has been around and worked well for so long? We shouldn't be giving into players who are terrible and toxic we should be encouraging improvement rather then throwing them a bone because they can't cope with the current meta.

Also your poll is stupid, there isn't a "no" option

I figured that there wouldn't need to be a no option, because the option to display any stat you want seems like a good choice?

You can choose losses
Points per match
Ratio
Showrating symbol
Hide losses

People were saying, "I want to keep my losses." So I guess, instead of just adding a "hide losses" option, it would be better to add all of these options. That way it won't be "Oh, you hide losses, because you are bad."

Also, I figured a lot of people would enjoy seeing all their stats on one page. Not their profile, but on a separate page, where it shows all of their spar stats. Maybe this could even be added for Player kills, and baddy kills too.

Deaths
K/D ratio
Kills by arrows
Kills by bombs

Baddies
How many of x type of baddies you have killed, etc

There's no 'No' option

Huh, there's not is there? Now that's odd...

Poll is based on popularity, if people want it or not, since it really won't affect anyone if it's added. All it is, is just choosing what you want to display.

Besides, I forgot to add it, in case of rebels.

Speak for yourself, ya'll could just put in feedback.

You didn't even have the courage to openly vote for what you truly supported in the last poll, it might be best if ReD speaks for you

You are a lot older than him.
A lot of people just don't want to be "weird", left out, or even hated, so they do what the majority does. They might grow out of it eventually and be their own person, if not, no need to shame them for it.

the idea of a pick and choose system would irritate me slightly, flicking between different profiles and seeing different ones would be a nuisance

but at the same time, more stats are always fun to look at, so possibly a separate page viewable by others is fun

Feedback on what? An idea that has no meaning?

Once again kind of funny that there isn't a no option.

Wait wait, I have to vote? Voting or not has nothing to do with courage, I just didnt vote, I read the posts and stuck to reading the posts so sorry if I didnt feel like voting. And why must it be ReD? No one has to speak for me I also have fingers.

Im saying rather than being so mean to the guy, tell him how you feel nicely its really not hard.

I do admit about the no option lol didnt notice till now.

Thanks Aguzo, buy I truly just dont like voting sometimes, not everyone votes so Im confused as to what courage Im needing.

I think he's referring to your pm conversation sympathizing with Aguzo about how evil we all are instead of actually doing anything.

Where's the "No" option? Anyway, I think in some ways this idea is even worse than your previous one. I imagine it would be incredibly frustrating trying to compare stats between people only to see they have different ones selected. Have you ever seen a single graph with five diffetent units of measurments? Im going to assume not because its not a great idea to say the least. It's just unnecessarily over complicating things that are fine the way they are.

no.

I was going to put a 'no' option, hence the poll's title, but then I arealized that there would be no point, since I'm not taking anything away.

If you can't get used to "measuring different units", then that's your problem for not practicing enough in math.

Someone posted a points per spar thread, http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34732

People like comparing that. Why not show it off, for the people who only spar tryhards.

These are just options to be able to choose from many type of stats, that could ultimately make you look better as a sparrer, if you don't want to use the traditional losses.

This won't affect your wins and losses. I changed it to having options, since people didn't want their ratios taken away. This helps both parties.

the more statistics for PK, Spar and BK the better.

I stated that pk, and bk could probably be added later on, but since they don't have a negative side like "deaths" next to amount of kills, those aren't really urgent, unless maybe someone would like to post their kills and their K/D ratio.

If you want to show your Kills and your K/D ratio next to them on your profile, instead of just the traditional kills, then that would be nice as well.

Yeah, the more stats the better. Having the option to choose what people which one people want to display is nice. Helps more of the casual players get into sparring, and the people who have already worked hard for their stats can still keep them.

Who said you were evil? I was told by many people to not get in the mix because of how outnumbered id be and how I'd surely lose. Im just trying to stick out for Aguzo since everyone attacks him for no reason I know of for simple ideas that hes trying to see how people feel about.

Also I do post about anything and everything most of the time, the reason you guys dont really notice it is not my problem. I'm on no ones side but I dont really think being so mean to one person over ideas this many times is a good way to go about it.

Rather than having options why not just compare the deaths to your kills and figure out the ratio single handedly. I mean its just a guess but isnt that what showdeaths are for besides curiousity?

Livid once again not understanding that Agugo will take extreme measures to make sure no one can vote no, the only way to show him that he is being moronic is by telling him how he stupidly **** posts constantly.

I never actually thought about it that way, the confusion would be quite the hassle when comparing stats.

Also why even make a pole if there isn't an option to vote no, it is like you're trying to make us agree with you so you can hang it over our heads later.

I'm not saying I agree with all his ideas, some were good, some were decent, some were terrible but I'm sure theres a better way than just attacking the guy.

Well no there sadly isn't, if you disagree you get called out by this egomaniac as someone who "just wants to keep their ratio", prove a point and he'll completely ignore you as seen on his "losses" thread. The guy is the most cringeworthy poster who uses the forum.

Why would you want to change a system that has been perfect for 7 years then blame it on selective sparrers when he does the exact same thing on his alt?

Not only does he contradict himself but he is a downright moron.

He's one person beig called a person who "wants to keep their ratio" or not isnt as bad as most things. I mostly skip the arguments and see how people feel about ideas like this so I can't deny or accept that he ignores or is a cringeworthy poster.
I 100% agree with you when you ask why change a system so good, I hate change on graal, I despise it which is why I read into threads like this and vote if I'm sure of the idea or not. I hated when snowtown tower and yorktown tower were removed but it was for more competition which I supported.
On the losses thread I voted No half way in, I just didnt see how it would work and thats an honest opinion. Theres no "no or yes" option here so I wanted to read and see if people made good points on it and all I see is just mean posts and anger.

Read through he says thallen won't vote in favor of the idea because he wants to keep his ratio.

Isn't that the main point of voting no? So people who earned their ratios won't be punished, because of others?

That's why I made this one, so everyone can have options to choose from. No one loses their traditional w/l option.

"everyone can have options to choose from"
*there isn't a no option*

This.

All I'm doing is letting the players who wanted to keep their losses, keep them.
and
Letting the more casual players enjoy spar more.
Even the people who exclusively spar tryhards can benefit from this, if they choose to display the PPS (Points Per Spar) option.

If I'm being honest I'm much more OK with this idea than the other one. Toggleable displays are fine imo, but that last suggestion of just removing and replacing stuff was bad.

#RemoveStatsMovement

Ask CJ, CoM, SoN, zZ, VG, etcetc


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exactly not many or probably none of them wanted seasonal ****e to remove a full ldrbd worth of history but hey that happened, now its all apparent 'pro' sparrers hating for players wanting a dam option NOT removal of anything.

That's the discussion thread
This is the future improvements one

I'm just the type of person to debate on anything.
I wanted everyone to not have a confusion, but since some people wanted to keep it traditional, then might as well have a lot of options.

I'm just curious to know, if graal keeps data of ties in spar.




If anyone knows how showrating works, let me know.

Was looking for a showrating explanation and found this thread
http://www.graalians.com/forums/show...ghlight=rating

Pluffy, "I don't see why not."..............
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Anyways, so I read this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
The op from that thread wanted to remove losses as well. His explanation is somewhat the same. That's not the plan anymore though. Better to have a lot of options. Or at least losses, hide, and rating.

How many points does a player gain from beating any player? 100? 200?

I'll probably get on UN later, and see what the highest ratings were in spar.

Sorry.
 

. . . Brought forth* (:

the more stats the better