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Lambda 04-25-2016 05:39 AM

False accusation and automated detection integrity
 
So recently I have been stealth-ed because they detected 'hack tools'.

Hell no I don't have this kind of tools, last time this happened it was because of a .XML text editor that I used to translate a project to French, now I don't have anything to uninstall.

This really questions me the consistency of the system, heck is this even monitored?

And yeah if they don't believe I don't have any hack tools I'm screwed, I admit the .XML editor is a 'tool', but I uninstalled it and since then I was free, and again now I have nothing to uninstall.



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cryptx 04-25-2016 06:15 AM

It's monitored by zone patrols. Actually it is supposed to turn gani hackers invisible. Message a zp and they'll remove it.

Yog 04-25-2016 08:37 AM

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Posted by cryptx (Post 698452)
It's monitored by zone patrols.

Nope. It's entirely automatic, and when I was staff it was never reviewed who was stealthed by it. It was entirely the one who was stealthed who had the responsibility to do something about it.

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Posted by cryptx (Post 698452)
Message a zp and they'll remove it.

Most likely going to be asked to submit a ticket.

Lambda 04-25-2016 08:44 AM

Yeah I did, but I noticed the process of sending a ticket is very complicated now

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Platinum 04-25-2016 11:31 AM

I'm pretty sure toonslab is down at the moment, and you're supposed to send your 'ticket' to [email protected]

Hope this helps!

PigParty 04-25-2016 12:41 PM

Message Gold, even if he's offline. He can fix that. The hack tool system is something Tash made, and like most systems on Zone, it's bull ****. When I did tickets, I was told to basically remove the hack tools from everyone who sent a ticket about it. Not sure why they even wasted my time with it if that was the case, plus I had many tickets that claimed to never have hacked, which I believed. The system doesn't work and gets people who actually aren't hacking. Plus it makes them invisible. How idiotic. They sometimes use items with auras and crap to make everyone's screen flash, just like it does when an admin in stealth uses an item. But of course, that system probably won't ever be fixed or removed, because this is zone :D

Lambda 04-25-2016 01:36 PM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 698523)
I'm pretty sure toonslab is down at the moment, and you're supposed to send your 'ticket' to [email protected]

Hope this helps!



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Posted by PigParty (Post 698537)
Message Gold, even if he's offline. He can fix that. The hack tool system is something Tash made, and like most systems on Zone, it's bull ****. When I did tickets, I was told to basically remove the hack tools from everyone who sent a ticket about it. Not sure why they even wasted my time with it if that was the case, plus I had many tickets that claimed to never have hacked, which I believed. The system doesn't work and gets people who actually aren't hacking. Plus it makes them invisible. How idiotic. They sometimes use items with auras and crap to make everyone's screen flash, just like it does when an admin in stealth uses an item. But of course, that system probably won't ever be fixed or removed, because this is zone :D



Will try, thanks for the suggestions

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cryptx 04-25-2016 05:39 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 698502)
Nope. It's entirely automatic, and when I was staff it was never reviewed who was stealthed by it. It was entirely the one who was stealthed who had the responsibility to do something about it.



Most likely going to be asked to submit a ticket.

There's a button on rc where we can monitor this system

Yog 04-25-2016 06:39 PM

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Posted by cryptx (Post 698605)
There's a button on rc where we can monitor this system

No there's not. Even if there was, it's never been used.

PigParty 04-25-2016 09:39 PM

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Posted by cryptx (Post 698605)
There's a button on rc where we can monitor this system

There isn't. I don't even think the Banned/punishment button shows when someone gets it. Even if it did, you can't see everyone who has it, you would just see when someone gets it at that moment, which is pointless.

The hack detect system is terrible & should just be removed or improved a lot.

cryptx 04-26-2016 09:00 AM

There is the "Hackers" button on rc, there you can see if someone has hacktools installed and turns invisible. But I agree, the system is horrible

PumaD 04-26-2016 11:34 AM

Is Carlito the manager of Zone now?

Yog 04-26-2016 11:55 AM

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Posted by cryptx (Post 699080)
There is the "Hackers" button on rc, there you can see if someone has hacktools installed and turns invisible. But I agree, the system is horrible

There is a tab that shows when when an anti-hack script runs, but it's never looked at, and just like RC chat it only shows when you're logged in. If you log in after a script has been run there will be no evidence of it.

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Posted by PumaD (Post 699096)
Is Carlito the manager of Zone now?

Yes. AFAIK he's looking to appoint someone else but I'm not sure

PigParty 04-26-2016 12:17 PM

It's funny. No tab is ever looked at besides the chat tab. Even the feedback tab is never looked at, which means that sending feedback is pointless because no one ever sees it. Funny stuff.

I recommended a system to FR for 'feedback' in a sense, and he was supposed to be working on it... Still haven't seen the project come out yet.

Alexmo 04-26-2016 12:21 PM

Sig*h so someone has to been the person that talks to players I guess this is my job what do I need

Lambda 04-26-2016 12:21 PM

Where's support.toonslab.com when you need it?

Been 31 hours since I was stealth-ed and since my 1st ticket.

Been 22 hours since I sent my first email, well I don't expect anyone to even check the email.

You know, knowing every staff is like busy 24/7 now.

And yeah Carlito is *A* manager now, along with FRIED RICE (not sure), I can never figure out why does Zone need so many managers

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PigParty 04-26-2016 12:32 PM

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Posted by Lambda (Post 699119)
Where's support.toonslab.com when you need it?

Been 31 hours since I was stealth-ed and since my 1st ticket.

Been 22 hours since I sent my first email, well I don't expect anyone to even check the email.

You know, knowing every staff is like busy 24/7 now.

And yeah Carlito is *A* manager now, along with FRIED RICE (not sure), I can never figure out why does Zone need so many managers

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That's because I left :D Alex/FR were supposed to check Toonslab every now and then too, but never did. Literally went months without checking once. Did you PM Gold? That would be the quickest way as of now.

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Posted by Alexmo (Post 699118)
Sig*h so someone has to been the person that talks to players I guess this is my job what do I need

you need a gold name

PumaD 04-26-2016 06:04 PM

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Posted by Yog (Post 699106)
There is a tab that shows when when an anti-hack script runs, but it's never looked at, and just like RC chat it only shows when you're logged in. If you log in after a script has been run there will be no evidence of it.



Yes. AFAIK he's looking to appoint someone else but I'm not sure

Do you have a clue what happened to Alex, sir?

Yog 04-26-2016 06:43 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 699210)
Do you have a clue what happened to Alex, sir?

Besides being promoted to Manager with an online time count of 30 seconds? Nope. I assume he's just Server Admin now or something.

PigParty 04-26-2016 08:39 PM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 699210)
Do you have a clue what happened to Alex, sir?

He resigned. "Resigned" would be the correct way to phrase it. I guess when he found out he was being kicked out, he left. Ya know, like Presidents resign right before they get impeached from office.

Lambda 04-27-2016 05:14 AM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699124)
That's because I left :D Alex/FR were supposed to check Toonslab every now and then too, but never did. Literally went months without checking once. Did you PM Gold? That would be the quickest way as of now.



you need a gold name

Yeah I did, he wasn't online though, expectation is slow knowing what Carlito is doing to the staff team.

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Shadeh13 04-28-2016 09:10 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 699273)
He resigned. "Resigned" would be the correct way to phrase it. I guess when he found out he was being kicked out, he left. Ya know, like Presidents resign right before they get impeached from office.

What was he getting kicked out for?

Distorted_P2P 04-28-2016 09:36 PM

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Posted by Shadeh13 (Post 700018)
What was he getting kicked out for?

not having any experience at all...

Shadeh13 04-28-2016 10:04 PM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 700026)
not having any experience at all...

Meh, I'm sure he had some.

Spoiler
haha only 100 hours in CSGO, nerd.

Lambda 04-29-2016 08:32 AM

98 hours since I was stealth-ed and since my first ticket, no feedback at all

90 hours since my first email, no feedback at all

2~ days since I pmed Gold A., no feedback at all - understandable though as he is still offline

This isn't your average support...

This is advanced support :-)

cryptx 04-29-2016 01:13 PM

A zp called nikki is currently answering all emails alone. Just message her ingame if you don't get an answer, she has lots of emails to answer. Gold is on-leave because of his exams.

Ivy 04-29-2016 01:15 PM

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Posted by cryptx (Post 700191)
A zp called nikki is currently answering all emails alone. Just message her ingame if you don't get an answer, she has lots of emails to answer. Gold is on-leave because of his exams.

I love nikki

PigParty 04-29-2016 02:36 PM

PP FOR SA!

Lambda 04-30-2016 02:22 AM

Oh crap - 6 days then I'm released, at least it's better than that one time it took Apple 3 weeks to send me my Macbook back.

Chelterrar 04-30-2016 04:51 AM

Quote:

Posted by cryptx (Post 700191)
A zp called nikki is currently answering all emails alone. Just message her ingame if you don't get an answer, she has lots of emails to answer. Gold is on-leave because of his exams.

Yes, Zone has been getting a little help here and there ;) So @everyone who thinks this server is dead: That's not gonna happen :D

GOAT 04-30-2016 07:46 AM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 700515)
Yes, Zone has been getting a little help here and there ;) So @everyone who thinks this server is dead: That's not gonna happen :D

This is the same noob that called delteria a developing master piece, so take his comment with a grain of salt.:D

Eugeen 04-30-2016 08:02 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 700537)
This is the same noob that called delteria a developing master piece, so take his comment with a grain of salt.:D

Lmao dead

PigParty 04-30-2016 12:07 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 700515)
Yes, Zone has been getting a little help here and there ;) So @everyone who thinks this server is dead: That's not gonna happen :D

Zone always has been getting "a little help." It doesn't matter. We have/had Alpho coding a project for Zone, he has coded others before. Someone else (I forget their name) coded the fishing job for us. Everything somewhat major was from help outside of the server. That's not the problem, it's management.


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