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Ariona13 04-16-2016 12:02 AM

Child Slavery
 
Child slavery goes on in many places, I'm gonna use India as an example. It was recorded that there are an estimated 68 million child slaves. And 59 million of them do not attend school or are not properly educated. The meaning of this thread is to ask you what are your thoughts on these horrible acts? Should we stop it? Why or why not? And are these children already too far gone. Just knowing that most likely every child that is a slave would trade lives with you in a heartbeat. #pceout

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Pr0m4N V.14 04-16-2016 12:07 AM

Child slavery happens in front of burger refuge.

Ariona13 04-16-2016 12:08 AM

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Posted by Pr0m4N V.14 (Post 695587)
Child slavery happens in front of burger refuge.

This is a serious manner I really wanna know everyone's thoughts :(

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Albie 04-16-2016 12:15 AM

if this gets 2000 retwats ill stop child salvery

PigParty 04-16-2016 12:23 AM

I don't know anyone who would be for child slavery... or slavery at all... Most of the "child slaves" are taken for sex/babies (girls) or fighting (boys). The world has a lot of **** they can do about it, but they don't. I don't mean to undermime this thread or the topic, but it's just an opinion that I have formed from hearing political talk for so long without action that there's hardly any point in even discussing it unless there can be action to back it up.

5hift 04-16-2016 12:24 AM

Most people are probably going to say to stop it but at the same time, not do jack **** about it.

I should know because I say it should stop but hell, I sure ain't going to do anything about it anytime soon.

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Posted by PigParty (Post 695598)
I don't know anyone who would be for child slavery... or slavery at all... Most of the "child slaves" are taken for sex/babies (girls) or fighting (boys). The world has a lot of **** they can do about it, but they don't. I don't mean to undermime this thread or the topic, but it's just an opinion that I have formed from hearing political talk for so long without action that there's hardly any point in even discussing it unless there can be action to back it up.

I think he means Child Labor.

Vicipower 04-16-2016 12:34 AM

Imo there can't be much done about it really.

I knew someone in the past irl who actually sold women and young girls against their will for literally a few decades. He never got arrested for that even though he served 15 years in jail for other reasons.
What I'm saying is that it isn't easy to get into that entire slave/prostitute thing as a cop, and vice versa out of it too as a woman.

Don't really think that its preventable in huge societies and cities, also pretty sure things like selling women or enslaving people in general was always a thing in the history of humanity, so rip.

PumaD 04-16-2016 12:37 AM

That's how it works, other people suffer and die while we pay only a few bucks for clothes, food and whatnot.

Bryan* 04-16-2016 01:34 AM

I think it'll never end. We eliminate one branch, another grows. But we as a community are capable of saving those who are being forced, exploited or harmed. It's the 3rd largest crime (aside from drugs and guns) and we can eliminate as many organizations and stop individuals that feed off this inhuman act. Unfortunately, there are far too many networks and an underground system that it will continue to expand.

I wish for humanity's sake it ends. No human should have to go through both a physical and psychological breakdown.

Ariona13 04-16-2016 01:45 AM

Damn that ducks ;/

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Alexmo 04-16-2016 02:29 AM

Well just I guess if we kill all adults then there will be no child slavery

Asaiki 04-16-2016 04:20 AM

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Posted by Alexmo (Post 695629)
Well just I guess if we kill all adults then there will be no child slavery

AND THE TRADEGY WILL HAPPEN
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/uu...FxFc3T0RduU6CL
DESPAIR SHALL SPREAD AND EVERYONE SHALL FEEL IT UHUHH Wtf am i doing with my life.

Zetectic 04-16-2016 04:34 AM

well.. pretty deep thoughts for 11 yr old. hmm why are 11 yr olds in my town so immature and dumb asf. all they do is talk about minecraft servers .-.;;

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DJ Meow 04-16-2016 05:25 AM

Having problems with your slaves?

"Yes I have a few slaves of my own. One of them likes to bite a lot and the other wont ever stop crying."

Having problems with your slaves? Well no need to worry anymore because Slave Control is here to save day. Slave Control quake tees your slaves to be absolutely respectful and listen to your ever commands. It's simple all you have to do is call 1-800-SLAVECONTROL today!

"After using slave control, my slaves seem to have lost their needs to bite or question my authority."

Order now and we'll even throw your very own whip to spice things up even more!

Eugeen 04-16-2016 05:48 AM

It's bad but personally this doesn't affect me at all.
I have my own life to live and don't feel the need to worry about things that aren't close to me.
If you always worry and care for everything that happens in the world you'll just end up upsetting yourself over and over again in my opinion

Bushman 04-16-2016 05:50 AM

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Posted by DJ Meow (Post 695662)
Having problems with your slaves?

"Yes I have a few slaves of my own. One of them likes to bite a lot and the other wont ever stop crying."

Having problems with your slaves? Well no need to worry anymore because Slave Control is here to save day. Slave Control quake tees your slaves to be absolutely respectful and listen to your ever commands. It's simple all you have to do is call 1-800-SLAVECONTROL today!

"After using slave control, my slaves seem to have lost their needs to bite or question my authority."

Order now and we'll even throw your very own whip to spice things up even more!

Not funny to joke about a problem that gives people liberty to torture other beings. Many slaves kill themselves and its a brutal sickening thing. Your comparing human lives to that of animals

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Posted by iBubble (Post 695667)
It's bad but personally this doesn't affect me at all.
I have my own life to live and don't feel the need to worry about things that aren't close to me.
If you always worry and care for everything that happens in the world you'll just end up upsetting yourself over and over again in my opinion

Life lesson? Only care about yourself!

Skyzer 04-16-2016 06:14 AM

Women are still considered property in many countries.

Sardon 04-16-2016 06:26 AM

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Posted by Ariona11 (Post 695588)
This is a serious manner I really wanna know everyone's thoughts :(

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Serious matters are not meant to be discussed on graalians.

We all know the world is ****ed up and there will always be bad people in existance.

Unless humanity faces a common threat they will remain the savages they are.

Bushman 04-16-2016 07:04 AM

Actually DJ these are CHILDREN lives.

Eugeen 04-16-2016 07:28 AM

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Posted by Bushman (Post 695668)
Not funny to joke about a problem that gives people liberty to torture other beings. Many slaves kill themselves and its a brutal sickening thing. Your comparing human lives to that of animals



Life lesson? Only care about yourself!

I don't only care about myself. But why would you start caring for something that has no impact on you and has nothing to do with you or your existence at all?

My life is simple, I keep it simple, wether I care for the world or not won't change anything at all

Illusions 04-16-2016 03:58 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 695691)
I don't only care about myself. But why would you start caring for something that has no impact on you and has nothing to do with you or your existence at all?

My life is simple, I keep it simple, wether I care for the world or not won't change anything at all

Heartless

CM 04-16-2016 04:39 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 695691)
I don't only care about myself. But why would you start caring for something that has no impact on you and has nothing to do with you or your existence at all?

So basically you only think about yourself?

5hift 04-16-2016 04:43 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 695691)
I don't only care about myself. But why would you start caring for something that has no impact on you and has nothing to do with you or your existence at all?

My life is simple, I keep it simple, wether I care for the world or not won't change anything at all

Bruh, what you described is literally caring only for yourself.

Don't sugercoat it to make you feel better about yourself, sweetie.

Ariona13 04-16-2016 05:19 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 695658)
well.. pretty deep thoughts for 11 yr old. hmm why are 11 yr olds in my town so immature and dumb asf. all they do is talk about minecraft servers .-.;;

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I'm 12

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Colin 04-16-2016 06:32 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 695748)
Bruh, what you described is literally caring only for yourself.

Don't sugercoat it to make you feel better about yourself, sweetie.

No it isn't.

He is implying he cares about people and things that happen in his area, but if something happens all the way accross the world then he won't care because he knows he can't do anything about it so no sense in worrying himself and feeling bad over it.

Realistically the way he describes him self applies to most people here, you can tell yourself and others you care about problems like child slavery but at the end of the day not many people here who claim that actually do anything about it.

CM 04-16-2016 06:32 PM

Ariona haven't you been 12 for like 3 years

5hift 04-16-2016 07:36 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 695766)
No it isn't.

He is implying he cares about people and things that happen in his area, but if something happens all the way accross the world then he won't care because he knows he can't do anything about it so no sense in worrying himself and feeling bad over it.

Realistically the way he describes him self applies to most people here, you can tell yourself and others you care about problems like child slavery but at the end of the day not many people here who claim that actually do anything about it.

You do realize many overseas manucaturing businesses take advantage of illegal child labor to make a lot of the stuff we use everyday.

What happens across the world directly influences you whoever ever you are.

Just because you can't see the issue doesn't mean it isn't there.

DADA 04-16-2016 07:49 PM

No one on graalians believes child slavery exists. Dollars support child slavery boycott dollars! No lie no homo

Colin 04-16-2016 07:58 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 695774)
You do realize many overseas manucaturing businesses take advantage of illegal child labor to make a lot of the stuff we use everyday.

If you care about child slavery then you can easily buy products and goods that aren't factory made, maybe you should go modify your shopping list.

Him buying something made by a child doesn't really count as being something that affects him either, he doesn't go shopping and look at every thing and then feel bad, he's just doing normal shopping. The only affect child slavery has in this scenario for him is a positive one because he can buy what he wants due to it.

DADA 04-16-2016 08:02 PM

You dont understand colin if you spend a dollar you support child slavery. You dobt understand economics. There is no reform just sharknado

And u jight spend loonies and toonies but canada supports child slaves too.

Colin 04-16-2016 08:02 PM

Yah I understand that's why I just said if you care about it then stop buying factory made things and you won't be supporting child slavery or slavery in general.

5hift 04-16-2016 08:03 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 695777)
If you care about child slavery then you can easily buy products and goods that aren't factory made, maybe you should go modify your shopping list.

Him buying something made by a child doesn't really count as being something that affects him either, he doesn't go shopping and look at every thing and then feel bad, he's just doing normal shopping. The only affect child slavery has in this scenario for him is a positive one because he can buy what he wants due to it.

If that actually worked illegal child labor wouldn't be an issue.

I'm not asking him to feel like **** for buying stuff probably made using child labor, I just find it pretty contradictory to say that he cares about this but really doesn't.

>Care

>Don't care

Pick one.

DADA 04-16-2016 08:05 PM

Yeah a large boycott will defer current of currency to child slave users.

Colin 04-16-2016 08:10 PM

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Posted by DADA (Post 695781)
Yeah a large boycott will defer current of currency to child slave users.

That still doesn't fix the problem.

The reason it's so easy for big companies to make money off of this is because the children and adults who slave away at factory work do so because where they live it's one of the only ways to make money, by people not buying products we will actually just make things worse for them.

The solution is one that will require millions(possibly billions) of dollars and a lot of cooperation between world leaders which is why it will most likely never be fixed.

Fulgore 04-16-2016 08:36 PM

Nobody here has the means to fix this problem.

It's fine to sympathize with it, as it's certainly not a topic anyone (but the slavers) supports, but to discuss care vs. fixing the scenario is pointless.

The issue is not simple enough for anything that could be discussed here to work, or it wouldn't be an issue in the first place. All of you here get many of your things indirectly through the facilitation of child labor, whether you like it or not.

On the note about caring for yourself...I agree with the standpoint of Bubbles. Look, it's terrible that this is happening but I have more important things to focus on. Like someone else in the thread said, if you just sit there and cry about every bad thing that happens on a daily basis, that's all you'll do. There isn't enough time to truly care and fix these problems on an individual basis, and you'll just stay sad all the time if you try.

Crono 04-16-2016 08:41 PM

i dont really care, ill continue to buy products that are relatively cheap. luckily i dont consider anything from india, but china is almost unavoidable.

Colin 04-16-2016 08:54 PM


Distorted_P2P 04-17-2016 04:09 AM

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Posted by Vicipower (Post 695602)
Imo there can't be much done about it really.

I knew someone in the past irl who actually sold women and young girls against their will for literally a few decades. He never got arrested for that even though he served 15 years in jail for other reasons.
What I'm saying is that it isn't easy to get into that entire slave/prostitute thing as a cop, and vice versa out of it too as a woman.


Don't really think that its preventable in huge societies and cities, also pretty sure things like selling women or enslaving people in general was always a thing in the history of humanity, so rip.

what the **** vici?

Vicipower 04-17-2016 04:49 PM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 695865)
what the **** vici?

Well I mean I'm just saying that that guy is an absolute ass and if I had found anything on the internet or some pictures or articles I would most likely post them for you but the only time I saw them was when he showed me the pictures & articles in person back in 2011 or so.

Though the thing is he never got caught for any of these things plus it was waaaaaay back when he did that stuff, like in the 70's maybe. Pretty sure none of the former women and teens that have been drugged and had to sell their bodies and also became victims of rape are alive nowadays.

Honen 04-25-2016 08:02 PM

There arent really bad things nor good things .
.. there are just choices.. you vhose what is good to you or what is bad you choose the way that you takes. In my own option i think that child slavery is really bad thing.

Thallen 04-25-2016 11:04 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 695667)
It's bad but personally this doesn't affect me at all.
I have my own life to live and don't feel the need to worry about things that aren't close to me.

True, here in America we have bigger fish to fry, like what bathroom a transgender gets to use

Mangsi 04-25-2016 11:12 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 698828)
True, here in America we have bigger fish to fry, like what bathroom a transgender person gets to use

FTFY

Vendetta 04-25-2016 11:17 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 698830)
FTFY

Why? You wouldn't say "male person" or "female person".

Mangsi 04-25-2016 11:26 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 698832)
Why? You wouldn't say "male person" or "female person".

Because we are people. Not a thing. When you just call us a, "transgender" over a, "trans/transgender person" it's found offensive to quite a few people in the trans community.

Colin 04-25-2016 11:29 PM

Uhhhhh?

People always use 'female' 'male' instead of 'female/male + person' so it shouldn't be any different with transgenders. Never once seen a male or female complain about it, just looks like a dumb thing to over react too.

It's just how common english works, in no way do people say it because they don't think you guys are people.

PigParty 04-25-2016 11:32 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 698834)
Because we are people. Not a thing. When you just call us a, "transgender" over a, "trans/transgender person" it's found offensive to quite a few people in the trans community.

From what I know, being transgender has many different meanings for people who actually are. It's delicate & difficult to please everyone with articulation. I saw someone transgender on Big Brother who didn't like being called transgender at all. I forget what she said she thought she was, but it was different than "transgender." I think it's just something you have to learn about for each individual for how they would like others to think/talk about it.

Mangsi 04-25-2016 11:37 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 698840)
From what I know, being transgender has many different meanings for people who actually are. It's delicate & difficult to please everyone with articulation. I saw someone transgender on Big Brother who didn't like being called transgender at all. I forget what she said she thought she was, but it was different than "transgender." I think it's just something you have to learn about for each individual for how they would like others to think/talk about it.

I'm saying it from my point of view, as a trans person, and I'm also going off what all my trans friends say. Being called a "transgender" over a "transgender person" feels kind of rude. I know some people feel differently about it, but it's how I feel about it.

Also, the trans bathroom issue is a huge deal for us. It may not seem so big to people who aren't transgender, but it's an issue I have to deal with on a day to day basis.

PigParty 04-25-2016 11:37 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 698838)
Uhhhhh?

People always use 'female' 'male' instead of 'female/male + person' so it shouldn't be any different with transgenders. Never once seen a male or female complain about it, just looks like a dumb thing to over react too.

It's just how common english works, in no way do people say it because they don't think you guys are people.

I understand how it could be considered offensive. If you say "Hey, that's a black!" That black guy might be offended. Same with saying "A gay," and some other labels. I'm not sure if it's because of the lack of controversy surrounding each term that decides if it would be offensive or not. Saying "An African American" doesn't sound offensive at all, while saying "A black" does.

I think people are too overly-sensitive a lot of the time, especially when it comes to race now. But with something as new as being transgender is to society, and it's revolution, I can understand being offended in that situation since I'm sure many people would say "A transgender" in order to display a lack of respect, or even lack of recognition of them being human beings too.

Vendetta 04-25-2016 11:39 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 698848)
I'm saying it from my point of view, as a trans person, and I'm also going off what all my trans friends say. Being called a "transgender" over a "transgender person" feels kind of rude. I know some people feel differently about it, but it's how I feel about it.

Also, the trans bathroom issue is a huge deal for us. It may not seem so big to people who aren't transgender, but it's an issue I have to deal with on a day to day basis.

I totally get the bathroom problem but it's grammatically correct to call someone "transgender" over "transgender person" and the same is used for both male/females so I don't see the problem.

PigParty 04-25-2016 11:40 PM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 698848)
I'm saying it from my point of view, as a trans person, and I'm also going off what all my trans friends say. Being called a "transgender" over a "transgender person" feels kind of rude. I know some people feel differently about it, but it's how I feel about it.

Also, the trans bathroom issue is a huge deal for us. It may not seem so big to people who aren't transgender, but it's an issue I have to deal with on a day to day basis.

I don't know why anyone would say the transgender bathroom issue isn't a big deal. I would think basic human rights issues are always a big deal. No one needs to undermine one issue (the transgender issue) to prop up another issue (child slavery) like someone did earlier. That's just ignorant.


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