Any advice from the long standing players.
 

I have been playing for just over 2 years now and I have finished all the quest farmed, looted and built my way up to something nice. now I'm looking to get into the competitive side of graal (towering, sparring etc.) I'm really bad at sparring I'm currently 6-66. what are ways to practice and any tips? and with towering I just join guilds that are towering at the time. how do I go about starting a towering guild and what is good advice for a starter?

keep going

For towering I'd say to join a tower guild...tower with them to 1k...it'll help you build towerer friends and stuff...maybe do another 1k after that then you should know quite a few people to start your own 1k...im not rlly experienced in towering but thatd how I would go about things.


In spar go into the guides section in the forums and there should be some spar guides from people like Droid, Thallen etc. Read them.

Quit its a waste of time.


Thats my advice from my years on classic.

get into pixel art ...

He's got a point

There's no endgame and eventually you'll grow up and get bored of Graal.

Ignore the above sassy whiners.
Stay frosty.

He could do something useful with his time instead of wasting it in this ****

Move every last sig. For great justice.

The argument that Graal is a waste of time because you get bored of it is stupid. You could argue that any game is a waste of time, which in a way it is.

If you enjoy playing Graal then keep playing. If not then stop. Games get boring after a while. Graal is no exception nor should it be.

sparring
Firstly, spar on a noob account to start. Don't do it on your main at first, you'll regret it. My ratio, 480-1007(roughly), is very bad and would take considerable effort for me to fix. I got it all in 2013-2014, when I was 1/4 the skill level I am now. Yours on the other hand is not, if anything it is easily fixable.

Now, que only in the main room. That's where the good sparers are, and that's who you need to be facing in order to improve. Don't worry about losses at this stage, it's a practice account and it doesn't matter. Then go to the point where you can at least win one for every loss, and then switch back to your main(however good you want to be before sparring on your main is entirely your choice.)

After that, just be consistent. Try to not take excessive amounts of time off, because while some sparers can take months off and be just a little rusty, when building skill you can't do that.

And, as stated above by Kuz, read those spar guides! There are a lot of good tips and knowledge in there, no matter your device.

towering

There is no formula for having a successful tower guild. There just isn't. You can try and join a friends guild and hope they'll move the members on to you after they finish, but often that doesn't work(or doesn't work fast, anyway). The other option is slowly trying to build a small, but loyal, tower team that slowly gains traction.

Now, im gunna put a little PSA here. Being a tower leader is very difficult, and/or stressful. You'll get 100's of pms, stalkers, be targeted, and will have to make the difficult decisions when it comes to demoting leads. Just saying that as a warning, that doesn't mean you shouldn't lead one.

Now, to leading a guild. Finding good leads is difficult, especially those from none-USA time zones. Try to keep an eye out for good leads from other guilds farther along the road, because you may have a chance to get them to join you when they finish their current guild. Next, here's my list of towers, in order of which are easiest to attack.

1. MoD
2. Deadwood
3. Sardon
4. Swamp
5. Castle/destiny

Chances are when you're first starting out 4-5 won't even be an option to attack, let alone home. They are homed by the powerful guilds, and early on what you have at peak hours they have at bleak hours.

Other then that, good luck, because nothing is a guarantee and this towering advice may not help you much.

I'm far from an expert on spar, but I know when I used to spar, if I lost to someone, I would change my entire strategy. People get hung up trying to do the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. If you want to spar but feel you aren't good, completely change your strategy, and keep doing that until you find one, or a few, that work for you.

As for towering, the best way to start your own guild (if that's what you want to do) is join another guild, then once they're done towering, you start your own and get them all to join you. It does get tiring, and in the defense of people who said it's a waste of time; if you are fairly busy in your life, I wouldn't hardcore tower. A game like Graal has that pull on you and since it's live, it makes you not want to leave. I would suggest guild-hopping between a couple guilds and join the one that's most interesting at that moment, do PKing and tower taking, etc. I thought it was mostly fun when I was in a guild that I was just talking to the whole time (and often times annoying) that I joined only when they needed help or when K was bored.

It's time for you to quit before you get sucked into the realm of doing absolutely nothing but somehow still playing

You could also be doing something useful :0 just sayin

If you really want to tower, you need to suck up to leads no doubt about it at least be friendly to them. If one of them hates you, you're screwed, just go to a different towering guild. Try to join early, like around 300h-ish and make sure that the people in it have experience with towering.. or else it will either take extremely long to 1k or it'll completely fail.

I mean, or you could be online for 12 hours a day and then you might be noticed above the 200 other people that randomly help the guild.

Towering is probably not for you if you don't enjoy staying at one place for hours on end without going afk.

For pk, you can join a pk guild or just go on any tag and just pk. Popular places are at towers (mostly MoD and Sards). Other places have long distances to the flag room where you'll get most of your kills (or the halls in Sards). If you just want stats tho... honestly just go spam your sword for a few hours in a mob/crowd (usually can be found in front of daycare centre or in swamp near giant blob spawning area).

For spar, well GL this is probably the hardest aspect of the game (imo). I can't spar so can't really help you there, but you'll probably want to do a lot of practice spars against good sparrers and you will improve. Again I have absolutely no skill here. Just beware of toxic players!!

Alright, now for graphics its more laid back, I would recommend visiting the graphics subforum and just looking through other people's work and trying to get a grasp on pixel art. Try making some stuff, make a thread there, and people will gladly give you cc (constructive criticism) to help you improve! You can make heads bodies whatever really you feel like, doesn't even need to be graal related.

Mostly just try and have fun, but remember if you are going to tower, it will probably take a lot of time away from other aspects of the game (ie. if they see you online but doing pyrat quest, you're probably not going to be praised). But, you can get away with a lot if you've got them connections.

ehh I disagree here. Guilds that are spinoffs of umpteen howmanyever previous hat farming guilds tend to easily succeed because each cycle has the same 5-ish main leaders + previous cycle's members + the tower mutts who double/triple guild before deciding which to stay with + new noobs.

Guilds that dont have the support of a large towering community circle tend to struggle, even if they arent necessarily noobs. It's difficult to get enough good members, because everyone goes to the guilds they know will get 1k quickly.

Don't know about you, but I play Graal / video games to waste time. Most people spend the rest of their day doing productive stuff, right?

A huge thing is to never blame everyone else if you run into trouble while you improve. You always look at yourself first.

I'm not sure if there's a process to "improving" at towering. It's more of a social thing now, the current landscape of it isn't really competitive. You just need to join a guild with people you like at a tower you like. I don't really have any recommendations for you.

Getting better at sparring is all about just doing it and getting familiar with the sparring community and each player's tendencies. It's just a measure of how well you can control your character and react... It's not rocket science, the only difficult part is understanding stuff like directional weaknesses and blink.

He's been actively ****posting on these forums for the last 5 hours, ignore any of his self-conscious attempts to make it seem like he's better than anyone.

Friend slime on skype and kiss but all his members and for sparring just be like thallen and watch the persons movements in the beginning at a spar and find your way around it! ;)

You're right, I expressed that wrong. Enjoy the game but only to an extent. Don't waste your time grinding, especially if you don't enjoy PKing or Sparring. It's a game, meant for enjoyment.

So treat it as a game, not a life.

And you claimed I was mad. Damn. Look at this awkward fanboy.

Your logic right? Anyone opposes you they're your fanboy?

Yeah like I said, I expressed that wrong.

Well that's not true. It's mainly just having a consistent, active, and not too horribly untalented Guild. Sub-Guilds are honestly a must because you have to try and achieve non-stop player activity.

That's at least what I've seen in my experience.

If you care that much about your statistics, by all means grind until you go blind and those thumbs go numb. Not really anything amusing in Classic once you've accomplished everything and made friends.

Just play a lot ;-3

thanks guys :) I have been teaming up with skyeatsplane to help out when I'm on and as for sparring I'm working on a tactic that has people stumped.

Yeah, if you're lucky enough to be the guy selected to be the leader for the next 1k. While you could join for 1 1k, and then immediately get to do yours, often it doesn't seem to work that way. It seems like whomever the main leaders are decide which guild, and it often seems to be a personal friend.

What I meant by "there is no formula" was more elaborated on in the next two sentences. I meant there was no easy/quick way to have a successful tower guild.
But yeah, could have used a different word.

I'm approaching 5 years of Graal and I must say it gets very boring. Probably Graal is my most played video game ever, though, so they did something right to be able to manage that.

Do what you want. Do what is fun. If Graal looses its interest for you, there is nothing wrong with that. Find what is fun so you don't regret wasted time.

If learning how to spar well doesn't bring happiness to you, don't do it. If farming doesn't make you happy, don't do it. If towering doesn't make you happy, don't do it.

If it does, however, bring you happiness... do. it.

What is blink?

Thanks. Will read now