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Bryan* 03-08-2016 03:25 PM

Events, what happened?
 
For the past few months, events have been hosted less and less. Before admins took the initiative to host as much as they can (ex:Zinnia, Brick, Korin, etc) but the current stack host barely. I'm just curious and this is directed to the current admins; do you not have the time, other priorities involve, or is it due to other circumstances?

If that's the case, I feel like there should be an Events Team or an Events Galore done every weekend to compensate for the lack of hosting.

Events Galore, whereas several admins host different events during a time period. Example: Zinnia hosted Bush Race, Brick hosted Sumo, Korin hosted Cliff Climber, etc

TeK 03-08-2016 03:38 PM

Events Team would be cool, would mean more stuff to do. Maybe give away gralats and stuff mosy of the time so event hats stay rare/uncommon.

kaida 03-08-2016 03:39 PM

I'd be anxious if events galore would be a thing during weekends . The server CPU would be at like 100% and we'd most likely crash / lag out of the game .. just a tought though

TeK 03-08-2016 03:42 PM

That's probably true unfortunately :'(

Jarace 03-08-2016 09:00 PM

In 2014 and 2013 I would host really often, this past year I haven't been doing it as much though. I'm not sure why I slowed down so much.

If it's what you guys want, I'll try and host more.

Bushman 03-09-2016 03:33 AM

I feel as if events have lost cause...Very few good hats its just luck and repetitive events. It gets worse as more join

Wolfie 03-09-2016 06:13 AM

The queue killed events lol. Even if they host, we would have a 1/2000+ chance of entering

4-Lom 03-09-2016 07:27 AM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 682761)
The queue killed events lol. Even if they host, we would have a 1/2000+ chance of entering

This... and it makes it seem like there are less events when the queue comes and goes without you having any other interruption to your game.

At least when there was a warper everyone would run around looking.

Livid 03-09-2016 11:31 AM

What are events, has anyone actually seen and even? I havent, those rare creatures...
Seriously though events were long broken, glad I got to enjoy some in the past before this ****

GotenGraal 03-09-2016 08:17 PM

The event system sucks. If the server has over 3,000 players online then you have less than a 1% chance of getting in an event lol. Please go back to warpers or make an events building like iEra has had for years..

Dusty 03-09-2016 10:25 PM

Sorry but the event system just stops the same people from getting into the events over and over. It says something when the major complaint is "I never get into events again" because they were so used to getting into it so much. The events were almost exclusively for a small group of players and imo that seems way less fair.

To say that's what killed events is pretty stupid.

Nanner 03-09-2016 11:44 PM

Glad I got to enjoy them while they lasted

Red 03-10-2016 12:25 AM

Never get into these events thanks to this stupid que system, just make a warper that ques you and closes within 2 minutes.

Has a max limit of 300 people and it selects 30-50 of them so you have a 10% chance of getting selected rather then 1%.

I think its time an events house was implemented that actually hosts events that take skill, like team tag 1v1 spar! 15 on 15 and you can tag out at any time. Once a team has been eliminated the winning team is spilt in half and they keep the process going until 1 person is left standing, Tagging out puts a random player in.

Livid 03-10-2016 12:41 AM

Lol now no one who enjoyed those events dont get to join them at all because the que system chooses randomly out of the 3000+ ppl that probably joined it. Glad I got those hats and had fun before they made it this way.

Weeno 03-10-2016 12:45 AM

I just hate the fact that there's this random queue thing :/ if you guys wanted to avoid constant winners it would have been better to filter the warps..

Bryan* 03-10-2016 12:56 AM

Well aside from winning multiple events (25) during the time it was frequently occurring, I just think its fair for the rest of the community to have a chance of glory. The tent at Mod Town can be an idealist location as an "Event House" and it already has pk disabled there. Plus instead of having just one event, have the events galore.

fp4 03-10-2016 02:08 AM

It's dumb to host events that only support 50 people on a server with over 3000 people online.

CM 03-10-2016 02:08 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 683032)
Well aside from winning multiple events (25) during the time it was frequently occurring, I just think its fair for the rest of the community to have a chance of glory.

The "rest of the community" had their chance of glory for, like, five years.

I mean, there was literally a guild dedicated to recruiting people who constantly go into and won events nearly every single time an event was hosted.

Thallen 03-10-2016 02:31 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 683070)
It's dumb to host events that only support 50 people on a server with over 3000 people online.

ya, really sucks because events were one of the coolest things about this game and none of them can really be changed to support hundreds of people

Yog 03-10-2016 02:36 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 683070)
It's dumb to host events that only support 50 people on a server with over 3000 people online.

idk how laggy it would be summoning every player in an event like chance, but would it be possible that having players hidden wouldn't blow the server up?

Zetectic 03-10-2016 02:39 AM

same people won't be picked again? then just host more frequently.
i had a solution to this.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32350

Yog 03-10-2016 02:44 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 683085)
same people won't be picked again? then just host more frequently.
i had a solution to this.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32350

The reason queues exist is so players don't group up to one area anymore.

Bryan* 03-10-2016 02:45 AM

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Posted by CM (Post 683071)
The "rest of the community" had their chance of glory for, like, five years.

I mean, there was literally a guild dedicated to recruiting people who constantly go into and won events nearly every single time an event was hosted.

I would understand from a stability/performance standpoint about too many players in a location but this excuse about a guild dedicated for a specific aspect of Graal is not acceptable.

EDIT: Keep the queue system but host more frequently OR if you add an Events House, it will randomly place you in games that several admins pick but you cannot decide which you want to go to.

Thallen 03-10-2016 02:49 AM

ET was just good players getting together and sharing information about event warper locations, if they ever teamed in events then staff could easily do something about it
It's really no different from a spar guild like Alumni

One thing that is bad to me though is (to my knowledge) there's no minimum requirement to queue, like I really don't think players with less than 10, or maybe even 100, hours should be eligible
Seems like just giving event spots to people who have a much lower likelihood of actually playing or returning to the game

Yog 03-10-2016 02:51 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 683092)
I would understand from a stability/performance standpoint about too many players in a location but this excuse about a guild dedicated for a specific aspect of Graal is not acceptable.

It's a perfectly acceptable excuse. They were literally asked to quit winning so many events at one point because everyone was fed up with it.

Bryan* 03-10-2016 03:10 AM

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Posted by Yog (Post 683095)
It's a perfectly acceptable excuse. They were literally asked to quit winning so many events at one point because everyone was fed up with it.


Like Thallen said, no different in Alumni, a guild dedicated in sparring and winning many GST's. Should staff stop hosting GST's due to this? With the queue system installed, there's no way this "events guild" can win many events. Must have occurred during the period of the warpers. Since warpers are barely used, I don't see why you or any other member of the staff can't host events. Hell I don't mind having Trivia 24/7 since it can both be educational and productive for players aside from "Googling" it.

CM 03-10-2016 03:24 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 683097)
Like Thallen said, no different in Alumni, a guild dedicated in sparring and winning many GST's. Should staff stop hosting GST's due to this?

No, because GSTs and events are different. GSTs are competitive, happen only four times a year, and for guilds like Alumni there is a lot at stake. Events were hosted daily, at least 2-3 times a day, and they consistently had the same winners. Compare 2-3 events hosted each day with the same winners to one winner of a GST each season.

Also, like I said, most people who join the GST are only interested in the prize shop. At least they actually got something out of losing, not to mention that you have weeks and weeks to prepare for such an event. In normal events, if you lose you lose, and good luck getting into another event if you're a new player.

In short, the current queue system is the best way to 1. prevent massive server lag and 2. give all players an equal chance at getting in.

Bryan* 03-10-2016 03:27 AM

I'm not asking for the return of warpers, I'm simply asking for more events to be hosted more frequently since for some obvious reason it's not occurring as much anymore even with the current queue system.

Brett 03-10-2016 07:25 AM

I've only seen about 30-50 events hosted tops in the 1yr 4-5 months i've been playing here. The lack of them in general is just sad even if they're not that great overall. Could be improved x10000000

Aguzo 03-10-2016 07:59 AM

Make an npc that auto hosts 24/7.

Every time an event is finished, the npc immediately starts another. It rotates through all the events.

You would have to give out ep or some other event currency, instead of hats.

If devs can make that, and a hackshield, then you would not need people to host.

Striken 03-10-2016 08:09 AM

I'd be down for EP

Alexmo 03-10-2016 11:05 AM

Hey you could hire me

4-Lom 03-11-2016 07:24 AM

I'd run events and do submissions up so nice. SO nice.

SomeGuy 03-11-2016 07:57 AM

Glad i won some event hats before they were broken.

Nanner 03-11-2016 08:19 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 683478)
I'd run events and do submissions up so nice. SO nice.

On a scale of 1-10, how nice?

UU 03-11-2016 11:20 AM

Its cringe af hearing people complain about events.
There was literally like 2 events a month in 2010-2011 even when we had 2k consistent. now that numbers havent even doubled you get events 3 or 4 times a week and complain if you dont.
not to mention that the only two events were hide n seek and trivia. Meaning you needed to react fast, know a lot about either random facts or graals world layout and buildings as well as basically praying that some random noob didnt just walk in there by chance.

Bryan* 03-15-2016 06:26 AM

Just realized admins don't host in the morning or afternoons. They host at 12am-5am. Less players but more of their friends are on.

Pr0m4N V.14 03-15-2016 06:34 AM

Do it like era! Play gralts for some sort of event hosted by a bot, and then,You win a handful of gralts!

Yog 03-15-2016 07:02 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684730)
Just realized admins don't host in the morning or afternoons. They host at 12am-5am. Less players but more of their friends are on.

I also realized that time zones exist. It's a conspiracy!

Striken 03-15-2016 07:30 AM

I'm sorry Bryan but refer to your signature. Sincerely your neighbor.

Slacky 03-15-2016 07:38 AM

I've only been selected maybe three times since queues were implemented. And imo the event hats don't really look like event hats anymore... Idk, I liked how many hosts of hide n' seek had hats that were representative of themselves. It gave more of a personal sense to it all.

Bryan* 03-15-2016 09:05 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 684745)
I'm sorry Bryan but refer to your signature. Sincerely your neighbor.

Don't know how is that relatable to a thread concerning events.

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Posted by Yog (Post 684733)
I also realized that time zones exist. It's a conspiracy!

Recently, events have occurred during the night (ex: Raina hosted Cliff Climber at 2am-3am). Some GP's that have hosted during these hours are from the US/Canadian region. The friends statement wasn't necessary but hell its just theory. Just wanted to know why is this occurring very late and not during times like 10am-10pm for example.

Pharaoh 03-15-2016 09:48 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684751)
Don't know how is that relatable to a thread concerning events.

Recently, events have occurred during the night (ex: Raina hosted Cliff Climber at 2am-3am). Some GP's that have hosted during these hours are from the US/Canadian region. The friends statement wasn't necessary but hell its just theory. Just wanted to know why is this occurring very late and not during times like 10am-10pm for example.

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Vicipower 03-15-2016 09:52 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684751)
Don't know how is that relatable to a thread concerning events.

Recently, events have occurred during the night (ex: Raina hosted Cliff Climber at 2am-3am). Some GP's that have hosted during these hours are from the US/Canadian region. The friends statement wasn't necessary but hell its just theory. Just wanted to know why is this occurring very late and not during times like 10am-10pm for example.

maybe bcuz they feel like it?
damn bryan wtf, you dont have to question everything staff do, hell not like you'd get into one of those damn events nowadays anyways

Count 03-15-2016 10:25 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684730)
Just realized admins don't host in the morning or afternoons. They host at 12am-5am. Less players but more of their friends are on.

so lets pretend timezones arent a thing for a moment


its spring break for many, so id imagine some people would stay up later


also, hosting events later with less people on = less lag, maybe someone told them to do it that way?

4-Lom 03-15-2016 02:31 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 684730)
Just realized admins don't host in the morning or afternoons. They host at 12am-5am. Less players but more of their friends are on.

Same with GST. Oh wait, no. They host it at 2 am MY time, not yours. And don't consider any sort of alternate time zone opportunity to get involved for players from other countries whatsoever.

:D

Striken 03-15-2016 04:26 PM

Pretty sure Raina has school and a life.

GotenGraal 03-15-2016 04:49 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 684795)
Pretty sure Raina has school and a life.

Yes, the 15,000 hours she has certainly reveals this. Excellent work Striken!

Striken 03-15-2016 04:54 PM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 684803)
Yes, the 15,000 hours she has certainly reveals this. Excellent work Striken!

Being an Admin isn't a job where you have a set schedule Einstein.

Bryan* 03-15-2016 05:15 PM

@Vici: I'm questioning why are events hosted less than it was before. Is there an issue with that curiosity? In addition, I am well aware my chances of getting into one are very slim (which is why I have the notification turned off). Same applies for others but those chances can be increased with events hosted more frequently.

@Count: Less players = Less lag, can be answered if admins were still using warpers. With the random queue, only 30 players get chosen and put into a level. But there's also those players that might lag themselves in the event but could be avoided by adding a lag cap of x amount of ms.

@4-Lom: If they implement the ideas that various players in the community have suggested, it'd be nice (ex: Event House, Event Bots, Player-Made Events, etc). If they also host more frequently, many players would have those opportunities.


Its all really what I initially posted that admins have priorities, circumstances, or time constraints that prevents them from doing an event or multiple events. I'm well aware we have a diverse group of staff members and they reside in different countries. The idea of how Events can be improved/renovated can still be an option. Doesn't have to happen sooner but later hopefully.


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