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Fulgore 02-17-2016 07:07 PM

Winter 2016 GST Predictions
 
It's time again for this, so let's hear everyone's opinions/reasons!

Mixed

1. Alumni
2. Apostles
3. BTK (if they do it) or Blackout

iDev

1. Alumni
2. VIS
3. Silver

Wolfie 02-17-2016 07:09 PM

Wait, GST is coming up?

Fulgore 02-17-2016 07:12 PM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 673064)
Wait, GST is coming up?

Last Saturday in February.

Wolfie 02-17-2016 07:15 PM

I thought the last GST (Winter) was in December O_o but guess not

alexx 02-17-2016 08:34 PM

For idev

1st Alumni
2nd Silver
3rd entity or apostles
Idk what happened to Elysian apparently something between apostles and them happened but from what I can see apostles looks stronger which is why Elysian isn't here

Thallen 02-18-2016 12:02 AM

Confirmation from fp4 that it's on the 27th? Not super motivated to play until it's announced

qes 02-18-2016 12:16 AM

Alumni will probably win both brackets. Elysian is the best advice challenge to Alumni in my opinion and the best competition for alumni PC is BTK/whatever Team Brett/zideric are making. If BTK doesn't make a team this season which would be unfortunate then apostles would get 3rd in my opinion. Elysian is making a mixed gst team too actually... its too hard to tell it depends on how the brackets are set up. And does VIS even exist?? feels like they broke up into delusional and elysian
Mixed
1. Alumni or BTK or whatever is going on with Blackout
2. BTK or Blackout or Apostles
3. Elysian or Apostles
idevice
1. Alumni or Elysian
2. Elysian or Rebellious
3. Whatever team fro decides to throw together or Rebellious or Elysian

its kinda close but alumni mixed has the best chances because their the most organized.
if the best PC's outside of alumni formed a dominate team together (theres a lot of mixed sparers considered equal or in some cases even better than alumni mixed)

and alumni device is contested by great idev sparers who always log on for ****s and giggles a week or two before gst + Elysian + the farmers club crew aka rebellious. Feels like Alumni idev will win though, i still don't see anybody beating that predation team they are too... good...? I'm not sure what the right and wrongs are about delay, but if delay is allowed then alumni idevice has the best team.

Bryan* 02-18-2016 12:46 AM

If someone can stream GST that'd be awesome so I won't have to log into the lag of ages.

twilit 02-18-2016 12:52 AM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 673067)
I thought the last GST (Winter) was in December O_o but guess not

It was in November (fall). (Over Thanksgiving weekend :rolleyes: )

CrimeWatcher 02-18-2016 02:00 AM

idev:

1) vis
2) rebellious
3) alumni

Incognito 02-18-2016 02:09 AM

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Posted by qes (Post 673151)
does VIS even exist??

what. yes lol

1) VIS

metal 02-18-2016 02:14 AM

I think the Broncos have a decent chance.

Darkk 02-18-2016 06:19 AM

iDevice
Alumni>Elysian/Entity (they merged, if they split both teams still have a good chance)>silver>delusional> demon>apostles
Apostles won't surpass round 4.

Albie 02-18-2016 11:05 AM

Elysian iDevice is looking strong

Heeble 02-18-2016 05:33 PM

Alumni will dominate the Mixed tourney.

iDev will be won by an underdog team. I'm not sure who that will be.

Kuz 02-18-2016 05:38 PM

Mixed:
1)Alumni
2)Apostles
3)Maybe Blackout


iDevice:
1)VIS
2)Alumni
3)Silver

Thallen 02-19-2016 07:00 AM

Actually motivated to win Mixed this time to get the 12 wins thing out of the way in the next 2 or 3 GSTs, not expecting to lose
Confident in iDevice's chances after how well they did last GST in Predation, happy to have old members back either way so we can finish this how we started it

alexx 02-19-2016 09:58 AM

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Posted by Jhenkzi (Post 673373)
Alumni will dominate the Mixed tourney.

iDev will be won by an underdog team. I'm not sure who that will be.

Why does everyone think idev will be won by an underdog team? When's the last time a underdog team won GST?

Kosiris 02-19-2016 11:05 AM

Quote:

Posted by alexx (Post 673601)
Why does everyone think idev will be won by an underdog team? When's the last time a underdog team won GST?

hey alex get outa here u already posted ur prediction bro ur kangaroos need u

DJ Meow 02-19-2016 11:14 AM

I think Aluminot will win.

Heeble 02-19-2016 11:31 AM

Quote:

Posted by alexx (Post 673601)
Why does everyone think idev will be won by an underdog team? When's the last time a underdog team won GST?

iDev has always seemed to have better chances of winning. Mostly due to it being locked to mobile devices as I hear PC is 'intimidating.' Alumni has been crushing the Mixed Tourney, as well, so the chances of winning iDev are much greater.

Kuz 02-19-2016 12:29 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jhenkzi (Post 673612)
iDev has always seemed to have better chances of winning. Mostly due to it being locked to mobile devices as I hear PC is 'intimidating.' Alumni has been crushing the Mixed Tourney, as well, so the chances of winning iDev are much greater.


We all know it's because SLX hasn't been doing it recently!

Fulgore 02-19-2016 03:45 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 673627)
We all know it's because SLX hasn't been doing it recently!

You have the cause and effect switched m8 :>

Edit: Post number 1111, sign that Alumni is guaranteed to place #1 the next 4 GSTs and be done.

qes 02-19-2016 08:36 PM

PC players have been coming back from UN to inform me that there isn't a single PC sparrer in Alumni that is even considered top 10 by most UN sparers besides Ares. Which really inspired me to start kicking ass. So this whole next four seasons mumbo jumbo has more evidence on iclassic due to previous seasons but less evidence according most of the PC sparers I've been talking to lately. Hope Blackout or BTK crushes you guys. But in a friendly way.

Fulgore 02-19-2016 08:57 PM

Quote:

Posted by qes (Post 675556)
PC players have been coming back from UN to inform me that there isn't a single PC sparrer in Alumni that is even considered top 10 by most UN sparers besides Ares. Which really inspired me to start kicking ass. So this whole next four seasons mumbo jumbo has more evidence on iclassic due to previous seasons but less evidence according most of the PC sparers I've been talking to lately. Hope Blackout or BTK crushes you guys. But in a friendly way.

That's probably because most PC players don't venture outside TC on UN or know half the people, and the ones they do know they just don't like. When I can log in UN and start winning spar events within 2 days from people I wouldn't give it a ton of credit, especially since they don't even play classic.

qes 02-19-2016 09:07 PM

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...4264049&page=2
this is how people felt about the best sparrer in 2011 on pc. Everybody in Alumni is a bunch of nobodies to PCs who log onto here for their first time. NOT SAYING ALUMNI SPARRERS ARE NOBODIES. Just saying we've been brain washed into thinking Alumni has the best sparers on graal (including pc) which I'm now finding out is not true. As more PCs decide to log onto iclassic the less important alumni becomes. Thats how i see things happening and we'll see in a season or two if I was right or wrong.
PS forgot david was in alumni, he's recognized as great on PC graal too... but not usually considered top ten (from what I hear now)
US came and dominated with no competition until mother came, now Alumni is doing the same thing. Funny how easily PC players can come here and look like Gods and make iclassic players feel defeated.

Fulgore 02-19-2016 09:09 PM

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Posted by qes (Post 675567)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...4264049&page=2
this is how people felt about the best sparrer in 2011 on pc. Everybody in Alumni is a bunch of nobodies to PCs who log onto here for their first time. NOT SAYING ALUMNI SPARRERS ARE NOBODIES. Just saying we've been brain washed into thinking Alumni has the best sparers on graal (including pc) which I'm now finding out is not true. As more PCs decide to log onto iclassic the less important alumni becomes. Thats how i see things happening and we'll see in a season or two if I was right or wrong.
PS forgot david was in alumni, he's recognized as great on PC graal too... but not usually considered top ten (from what I hear now)

What PCs are you referring to?

qes 02-19-2016 09:19 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 675568)
What PCs are you referring to?

Most of the original PC sparers who have been playing for years who came on this server on the past few months. The ones in SNC BTK and Blackout, the Knowledgable ones who aren't trying to hide/lie about their past on PC graal. I'm speaking in the words of other people and forming my own opinion about it. Thallen yelling "we will keep winning" is cute when there aren't even any established top tier PC guilds here other than blackout which is an inactive guild until GST which is the best competition Alumni has had on this server.

I myself haven't been with many good GST teams in the past because I've been leading my own underdog idevice teams for years. Alumni clearly has been winning fair and square, I just feel the need to inform people that this whole "winning 3-4 GSTs in a row" is only realistic because in the past they have had no competition. Hoping the Client Sparrers that I've been referring to in Blackout/BTK will pull through and back up what I'm saying here.

Also, hope to inspire anybody limiting themselves to learn how to spar on the same level as top tier sparers, because Alumni's skill level is far from the skill limit, you can go beyond that despite what Thallen and fulgore say on these GST posts every season to discourage mixed teams from banding together to actually win.

Warhawk 02-19-2016 09:24 PM

Fulgore is one of the nice guys

qes 02-19-2016 09:26 PM

Quote:

Posted by Warhawk (Post 675574)
Fulgore is one of the nice guys

i know fulgore for years. He's cool, maybe he's just brain washed like the rest of us stuck on iclassic.

Fulgore 02-19-2016 09:28 PM

I guess we'll see when BTK does it then? I'd actually love to see them show up and lose. And when it happens Qes I'm quoting all these posts on this thread!

Warhawk 02-19-2016 09:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 675576)
I guess we'll see when BTK does it then? I'd actually love to see them show up and lose. And when it happens Qes I'm quoting all these posts on this thread!

HEY! this is going to be my first time playing in your laggy hunger games

qes 02-19-2016 09:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 675576)
I guess we'll see when BTK does it then? I'd actually love to see them show up and lose. And when it happens Qes I'm quoting all these posts on this thread!

did i say anything about BTK winning GST? I just said Alumni is not the best on graal, just the best currently on iclassic. Chill

Fulgore 02-19-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Posted by qes (Post 675578)
did i say anything about BTK winning GST? I just said Alumni is not the best on graal, just the best currently on iclassic. Chill

I think the fact that we aren't the 25 best sparrers in history is obvious. But I don't think anyone really cares about that. If we're talking about the GST on the GST thread, I'd point out that Alumni is the best guild to have done a GST.

qes 02-19-2016 09:35 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 675580)
I think the fact that we aren't the 25 best sparrers in history is obvious. But I don't think anyone really cares about that. If we're talking about the GST on the GST thread, I'd point out that Alumni is the best guild to have done a GST.

Don't see a difference between what US did to GST and what Alumni is doing now. I give Alumni props to beating Blackout though.

Fulgore 02-19-2016 09:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by qes (Post 675581)
Don't see a difference between what US did to GST and what Alumni is doing now. I give Alumni props to beating Blackout though.

If you think we don't have competition what do you call whatever went against US?

qes 02-19-2016 09:40 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 675582)
If you think we don't have competition what do you call whatever went against US?

Exactly... I said US dominating this server and Alumni dominating the server, the same thing. no competition. There aren't any active top tier sparring guilds besides alumni on iclassic. Saying Alumni can't be beat isn't true, the only thing supporting Alumni's dominance is the lack of top tier sparers outside of alumni actually doing something to stop Alumni.
Blackout is the best competition, great sparrers, but its not an organized guild that selects the best sparers they can have, its kind of just Brett's play pals. To get a good team you need to practice as a team, not just adding 1vs1 sparers to try to beat the only top tier TEAM on classic.
Just think the general public is brain washed into thinking so highly of Alumni just because of what they have done ON THIS SERVER. (the server that pc's from client log onto and instantly get great ratios and wreck everybody then go back to UN)
sorry I'm bringing new ideas to the table rather then saying "US is the best" in 2012, just to find out they weren't the best in 2014, Then start yelling "alumni is the best" in 2016, just to find out they aren't the best when the better UN sparers get their **** together and form a real team.

Heeble 02-19-2016 09:59 PM

Alumni is beatable, but you don't seem to grasp that most people are aware of that. It's not that Alumni isn't beatable, it's the odds of them winning again based on skill, experience and how many they've already won. I am not sure if there are more than two teams who have won the GST 7+ times; the amount of wins they have alone proves they have more skill than most. I would love to see Alumni lose Mixed at least once in my playtime. Not because I don't like them, but because I hate how people feel intimidated; people still feel Facebook/PC is superior to iDev, leading good players away from Mixed.

Another thing you should consider is many people from 2009+ are getting older. The real world is getting bigger and bigger for them. Alumni will retire when the real world is more important, for sure.

Fulgore 02-19-2016 10:00 PM

Quote:

Posted by qes (Post 675586)
Exactly... I said US dominating this server and Alumni dominating the server, the same thing. no competition. There aren't any active top tier sparring guilds besides alumni on iclassic. Saying Alumni can't be beat isn't true, the only thing supporting Alumni's dominance is the lack of top tier sparers outside of alumni actually doing something to stop Alumni.
Blackout is the best competition, great sparrers, but its not an organized guild that selects the best sparers they can have, its kind of just Brett's play pals. To get a good team you need to practice as a team, not just adding 1vs1 sparers to try to beat the only top tier TEAM on classic.
Just think the general public is brain washed into thinking so highly of Alumni just because of what they have done ON THIS SERVER. (the server that pc's from client log onto and instantly get great ratios and wreck everybody then go back to UN)
sorry I'm bringing new ideas to the table rather then saying "US is the best" in 2012, just to find out they weren't the best in 2014, Then start yelling "alumni is the best" in 2016, just to find out they aren't the best when the better UN sparers get their **** together and form a real team.

Well they have 2-3 GSTs to try before we get a cemented "legacy" or sorts when we're finished. So you can try to rally them all and I'd put money on them still losing.

Warhawk 02-19-2016 10:26 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 675594)
Well they have 2-3 GSTs to try before we get a cemented "legacy" or sorts when we're finished. So you can try to rally them all and I'd put money on them still losing.

lol

Thallen 02-19-2016 10:27 PM

Qes, these are some of the stupidest and most clueless posts I've seen from you and that's saying a lot
The way you've transformed into some awkward UN fanboy who found a PC Graal father figure and now you're repeating folktales he told you... Stop...

qes 02-19-2016 10:28 PM

You just don't like my opinions. And not really considering how Alumni is barely winning in this bs Guild spar room right now. I'm not repeating anything. I was saying US was beatable when nobody else was too, I'm just learning some new things about people on this server. Whether or not its true, idk I wasn't there. Better to think outside the box then conform to the idea that alumni is soooo great. Probably isn't, we probably just suck

Warhawk 02-19-2016 10:30 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 675611)
now you're repeating folktales

thats the funniest thing in all these pages

qes 02-19-2016 10:35 PM

its funny in that link i shared nobody says your name thallen. Wonder if there was a greatest of all time hacker thread...trololo

Thallen 02-19-2016 10:38 PM

what's funny is that you're linking a thread from 2011, when PC sparring died in probably 2008-2009, and I stopped playing PC Graal in 2008
I can throw around irrelevant and dead forum posts too: http://forums.fairyland-europe.com/f...ad.php?t=60616

no point in arguing with a young and impressionable guy like you, I can picture Warhawk holding you in his lap and combing your hair as he tells you all these fables about PC Graal (from 2008 onward)
ask people like Clops, Brett, Halo, Squirt, Ares, and Deophite if you want to know about the state of sparring on PC, those guys were always around and always relevant

you turned this thread into an strange obsession with Alumni and me in particular, so you'll fit in great with the BTK losers

Thallen 02-19-2016 10:55 PM

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Posted by qes (Post 675628)
your talking about winning 4 in a row, even saying to put a sign up about it

?
what are you talking about man
quote me

all I see in this thread, pre-autism, are GST predictions
then you came in and wrote a novel about UN and Alumni

contego 02-19-2016 10:59 PM

ya hugs not thugs.

Heeble 02-19-2016 11:04 PM

- Ruined GST Predicition thread is on schedule. All aboard! -

Kosma 02-19-2016 11:15 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jhenkzi (Post 675642)
- Ruined GST Predicition thread is on schedule. All aboard! -

I'm laughing all the way to the bank :')

James205 02-19-2016 11:26 PM

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