Freeze reload
 

I'd like to know yalls thoughts about bringing it back or not.

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what's a freeze? can't really find the true answer on google. Unless of course, you freeze when you reload

Its when you stop in place to reload, unlike now where you can reload and still move.

Isn't it also when you freeze between each shot as well?

Yeah. Imo, you should bring it back because it adds more to the strategy for sparring/pking/basing. Calculating where the bullets will be to stop and reload is awesome.

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nahhhh instead of freezes how about automatic and non automatic reloads. Reasonable guns such as chainguns and railgun should NOT have auto reloads but guns like siphons and rippers should

I'm here for piggy, zone is a fast pace game.

hell (insert bad word here that would get this post deleted) no.

no, but it could be both.

As a pker, i prefer no freeze due to having to fight multiple people. In spar tho, both are beneficial in their own ways, no freeze benefits offense and freeze benefits defensive actions, like if you keep track of the opponents clip you can know when to rush or reload

Someone with skill shouldn't need reload freeze to win. They still can't shoot while you can, so you should be able to hit them, even if they move. The whole strategy of spar is to guess their next move and hit them there.

Please no just no I once stopped playing zone because of this

The only bebefit i see in freeze reload is gives you a chance to hit someone in spar. That seems to be it really, its horrible for pking and leand more on the bad side in basing

Exactly correct. I view Zone's PVP like I do Halo's... PVP should be fast-paced, bullets flying everywhere, nonstop moving & dodging & crap going on everywhere 24/7.

Your guyses assumptions on the pking is just wrong cause pking was great with freeze reload back then. Aero hit 100k with it no problem. It requires more aim and precision to get kills yes, but thats the benefit of the gameplay. Now pking is just anyone with a good gun can rush around skybase and get kills. In terms of balancing guns clip size and reloads don't really apply to guns now, they are basically bottomless clips that have an ever so slight pause. As of now all the OP guns are mainly ones that shoot fast or shoot decently fast but have high damage. Rippers-WhisperWind-Rail-Alien-Heartbreaker are examples. However if you give high damage and low firerate they are really useless such as Sting-BlueChristmas-Kv24, then theres guns that are just bad all around like Green-red-atom-etc. But the point is that theres a less requirement on skills needed to win. This game isnt HALO or COD this is Zone its unique in its own way and id like things to be the way they were suppose to be from the start. Guns will never be ballanced at this rate. Speed Guns are best and slow guns are useless, no matter the damage, cause aiming is almost pointless cause people have bottomless clips.

Time your dodges in between bullets, its alot more satisfying then running away, or draining ur ammo in their geanral direction to get a kill.

Pigparty you have no say in any of this concidering you have little to no exp with the new system, and its not really skill when everyone just wall grinds and spams bullets, and yes i can still win either way but its not about winning its about the ballance and people atcually using strategy rather than relying on high rof to bottomless clip kill people.

And i will say this. That during reload freeze there wasnt really any complaints except when you were pking there would be a stray that would hit you when ur reloading and low hp, but honestly it was more something people laughed about

I also pked to 100k with it, and im pking to 200k without it, i much prefer it without freeze because i usually have to chase people and pausing can screw up getting kills. I dont think freeze has anything to do with pking at skybase, its the base itself thats the issue, being the only skybase. One thing also is not every gun is intended to be used in spar, stingrays for example are bad spar guns but decent pk guns, and the same with guns that are better for spar than pk, such as the heartbreaker. Honestly its only been sparrers that bring up the freeze reload, and while i can see yalls points, i gotta look at both sides of things and see which will play out best, and thats not just with current guns but with how the new system will be when its added. As of right now its not gonna be added due to this current system is getting ready to change, but when the new system is rolled out i'm gonna need to know if freeze reload will benefit it or not, which is why im trying to get everyones opinions on it.

Chimi, please. I PKed still when we had reload freeze, so I believe I can give my opinion because it has nothing to do with the current stats, but has everything to do with reload freeze, which I experienced, and it sucked. It's only benefit is for spar, and even then, no one should need it to win. In fact, that makes it easier to hit someone else. Sparrers should want it harder to hit someone else, to create more strategy.

Its a tough choice, because spar seems to be the only place where it has a huge effect in gameplay, pk and basing can be done with both but its far more beneficial to not freeze in place due to multiple people shooting at you. And if this were to be added, id have to work the whole future gun system around it, and with the more special type guns (shotguns, high dmg cannons, high rof low dmg guns,) it has the chance of really crippling them. Its not something that can be easily added back in after the system now and the one planned are revolved around no freeze. It still needs to be discussed imo

why dont we all just move to era?

I gave up on that piece of ****

You guys are ******ed. The whole reason freeze reload was introduced was because people were abusing instant reloads which gave them endless clips. No one wanted to make **** for reloading so freeze was the only solution.

And Geno, granted I don't care anymore because I've pretty well stopped Graal altogether; get this in your head. What YOU or your FRIENDS care about doesn't matter. Balancing is meant to be UNBIASED and logical sense, not what the balancer likes and dislikes.

@Cookie, just leave this thread, we don't need your cancerous self ruining everyones good time on here too, don't come on here calling people names, we're having a regular discussion and it will stay that way. Also, if this topic was so important that you had to resurface and make a complete fool out of yourself to comment, why didnt you fix it then? I'm sure we all would rather have freeze reload than that crap you did with the guns. And baised? Why would i even have brung this up if i wanted to keep freeze reload off? If you actually read what i said instead of skimming thru it or skipping all the big words you don't know, you would know that i clearly stated that i am giving my opinion, and taking everyones opinions and then deciding on whats best.

This is all that im gonna say to you, ive already learned that talking to you is like talking to a wall and we will get nowhere by continuing to talk to you. Im just gonna proceed with the discussion with everyone else.

I guess (from a sparrer point of veiw) freezes will make it harder but i mean that makes you have more skill to count that, placing shots etc.. But what i didnt like is standing there for 2-3 seconds open for someone to spam while i reload, maybe a short pause? Not so long you can get hit a few.

What happened before was player one would shoot while player 2 woukd wait until player 1 had to reload, as he reloads player 2 spams him quickly and he loses health.
Thats what always happened to me.

Technically, and literally actually, bias plays a part in to it. There's no objectiveness hardly. Sure, you could say something objective for a few issues, but most ofwhat needs to be decided is subjective, and the goal is to hire someone who has good opinions & knows how to solve the issues, rather than someone with bad opinions. It's impossible to stay objective for an issue such as the entire PK system. Players need to like how it is, which creates an impossibility to stay objective. Toodaloo, that's all I have to say. PS, Cookie, saying something's ******ed when you mean something's stupid is... stupid. Go watch the Wanda Sykes commercial & don't be ignorant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS0GVOQPs0

@pig, in that case, most people seem to be against freeze rld