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NightmareK 02-10-2016 12:51 AM

A Western Twist On The Arcade (with friends!)
 
I was recently scrolling through some of the old threads and came across a thread that caught my attention: Poker. Now, although I love poker, the game itself requires a currency to gamble and at this age level that idea would most likely be rejected. So then I began to think of other card games that could be played such as simply "Go Fish". My idea on the gambling was stuck in my mine however, so I decided to look at other games for ideas and era gave me a lightbulb. Players could buy tokens (a more western name could be acquired) which they would use for these games. These tokens could be purchased with gralats. There would also be different tables which players could grab to play one another or in groups like in many card games. Most of these games would only cost about 1-10 tokens. Each game would have a prize in tickets (the higher the tokens for the table the more the tickets), but you wouldn't have to gamble your gralats. For example, two players grab the table for the game "War" and each spend one token, whoever wins the game of "War" will be granted 10 tickets (for example). These tickets can then be used towards prizes. There could be many different card games such as "Spades/Hearts", "Go Fish", and "War". In addition, just because I like the idea of Poker still, what if players could grab a table for a specific amount of tokens and they would be granted temporary currency for that game of Poker (not out of your currency) and the player with all the temporary currency at the end would win. I believe this could give west more of a western style feeling when you walk into a saloon and give us something to do on our off time. Plus many of us could chase the prizes just like the era arcade. I would love to see this implemented so I can chill with my friends while we play a game of cards. What do you guys think?

FranikGraal 02-10-2016 01:23 AM

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Posted by NightmareK (Post 670111)
I was recently scrolling through some of the old threads and came across a thread that caught my attention: Poker. Now, although I love poker, the game itself requires a currency to gamble and at this age level that idea would most likely be rejected. So then I began to think of other card games that could be played such as simply "Go Fish". My idea on the gambling was stuck in my mine however, so I decided to look at other games for ideas and era gave me a lightbulb. Players could buy tokens (a more western name could be acquired) which they would use for these games. These tokens could be purchased with gralats. There would also be different tables which players could grab to play one another or in groups like in many card games. Most of these games would only cost about 1-10 tokens. Each game would have a prize in tickets (the higher the tokens for the table the more the tickets), but you wouldn't have to gamble your gralats. For example, two players grab the table for the game "War" and each spend one token, whoever wins the game of "War" will be granted 10 tickets (for example). These tickets can then be used towards prizes. There could be many different card games such as "Spades/Hearts", "Go Fish", and "War". In addition, just because I like the idea of Poker still, what if players could grab a table for a specific amount of tokens and they would be granted temporary currency for that game of Poker (not out of your currency) and the player with all the temporary currency at the end would win. I believe this could give west more of a western style feeling when you walk into a saloon and give us something to do on our off time. Plus many of us could chase the prizes just like the era arcade. I would love to see this implemented so I can chill with my friends while we play a game of cards. What do you guys think?

In my opinion this is a great well thought out idea and I believe that this should be added[emoji2]

metal 02-10-2016 01:32 AM

Its gambling no matter how you spin it, why use all these fancy workarounds when we could just bet Gralats or free games and be done with it. Id really like some card games added, some texas holdem or really anything would be great.

NightmareK 02-10-2016 01:33 AM

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Posted by metal (Post 670134)
Its gambling no matter how you spin it, why use all these fancy workarounds when we could just bet Gralats or free games and be done with it. Id really like some card games added, some texas holdem or really anything would be great.

This would mess up the economy, cause many to quit due to gambling issues and this is the best solution, that like saying putting a coin in an arcade machine is "gambling".

Edit: Not to also mention the ticket system for prizes...

metal 02-10-2016 01:48 AM

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Posted by NightmareK (Post 670136)
This would mess up the economy, cause many to quit due to gambling issues and this is the best solution, that like saying putting a coin in an arcade machine is "gambling".

Edit: Not to also mention the ticket system for prizes...

If people have gambling issues thats their own problem, and I still dont like things like a ticket system, I dont like a ticket system for prizes, whats stopping 2 friends from buying a crapton of tokens and just grinding tickets off each other? At this point we should just leave it at gralats. And yes I believe an arcade machine is gambling.

I really want some card games in graal but its gonna have to be free or with gambling, none of this ticket token crap.

NightmareK 02-10-2016 01:58 AM

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Posted by metal (Post 670149)
If people have gambling issues thats their own problem, and I still dont like things like a ticket system, I dont like a ticket system for prizes, whats stopping 2 friends from buying a crapton of tokens and just grinding tickets off each other? At this point we should just leave it at gralats. And yes I believe an arcade machine is gambling.

I really want some card games in graal but its gonna have to be free or with gambling, none of this ticket token crap.

Your entitled to your opinion, just saying check out the game puzzle pirates. Poker has ruined that game due to how the gambling system works.

Senpai Enigma 02-10-2016 02:04 AM

then dont gamble

NightmareK 02-10-2016 02:03 PM

I believe someone can argue that the gralats they gambled were purchased, implying it's internet gambling. I'm all for the gralats gambling idea but I'm not sure the admins are.

IspringOlWest 02-10-2016 03:14 PM

My personal opinion they wont dev this especially since there is typically not even 2 people on average in the spar room the west population is soooo small

KnoCkem 02-10-2016 04:14 PM

I love your idea but i think it should just be gambling, there is probably young kids on this game but they probably have the swear filter off and i don't think gambling a in game currency is bad.....at all.

But here is one of my ideas(dont take thread off topic i hope)
They add a "Bar/Saloon" (like ur arcade name with a more westerner theme base) when you walk in the saloon/bar there is tables everywhere almost like trade tables but with different designs, also on the bar table buy able food and drinks like bread and beer(you already can buy beer in game, so beer is not bad) and when you walk up to a table u can grab it, basically your idea but not "go fish" lol that sounds to childish and i know that you gave it that name because yes there is kids on this game but lets face it, i think we all know that not a lot of kids play this game, (there is only like 300 people that play this)but anyways when u grab a table like u said there is credits(or just use or gralats) and then the more gralats or credits we put in give us a higher chance to win so say there is a 500 gralat table and a 1000 table, everyone that joins the 1000 table(maximum of like 5) has to put down 1000 and you have to put 1000 to play(no putting above 1000 though) no putting above 1000 so everyone odds are fair, it spins a wheel or does some random thing and the winner takes all but it does the same thing for every table (no matter what the amount of gralats is) also there should be custom tables where you can rent a table and choose how many players can join and the amount of money you wanna put up... say you and your friends wanna bet 100k gralats and you are both feeling lucky, you can buy this table and choose 2 people to join and your friend joins then u can do how ever much money you want, but to join however much money the person says they wanna do it for you have to put in before you join so u add money then u get in. there should also be a watch option so if someone is doing a huge bet everyone can watch and there should be like a leveling system so people know the #1 gambler, in my opinion west would be the best server if they added this in but i am like 80% they wont because they dont want us to have fun and i just wasted 5 minutes of my life typing this, oh well but last but not least these tables should be in bases, so while your basing you and your gang members can gamble instead of sitting there doing nothing,


STAFF PLEASE CONSIDER THIS:):):) (great idea night):):):):D

NightmareK 02-10-2016 08:02 PM

I'm all for the gralat gambling honestly any way we can make this happen works for me, I just felt like a work around might work but if gralat gambling works then I'm all for it.

KnoCkem 02-10-2016 08:32 PM

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Posted by NightmareK (Post 670417)
I'm all for the gralat gambling honestly any way we can make this happen works for me, I just felt like work around a might work but if gralat gambling works then I'm all for it.

yeah

Symmasolan 02-11-2016 12:00 AM

In my opinion the only way a gambling system could work without causing gambling issues amongst players is if the currency for it is limited and cannot be traded.

Say you got a daily spin on a wagon wheel or something stupid, and that spin would give you X amount of tokens to use for that day. You could then spend those tokens at the casino playing any gambling game that you would prefer to play. IE Blackjack, Texas Holdem, Roulette, Slots, etc etc.

So in theory it could work. Idk, just something off the top of my head.

Senpai Enigma 02-11-2016 12:03 AM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 670505)
In my opinion the only way a gambling system could work without causing gambling issues amongst players is if the currency for it is limited and cannot be traded.

Say you got a daily spin on a wagon wheel or something stupid, and that spin would give you X amount of tokens to use for that day. You could then spend those tokens at the casino playing any gambling game that you would prefer to play. IE Blackjack, Texas Holdem, Roulette, Slots, etc etc.

So in theory it could work. Idk, just something off the top of my head.

10 tokens daily for logging in.

tokens if not used withing a few days will disappear (to keep players from hoarding them)

Tokens should be used to exchange for rewards like food and maybe sellables to make a few G's

you can only exchange a max of 3 items per day

metal 02-11-2016 01:12 AM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 670505)
In my opinion the only way a gambling system could work without causing gambling issues amongst players is if the currency for it is limited and cannot be traded.

Say you got a daily spin on a wagon wheel or something stupid, and that spin would give you X amount of tokens to use for that day. You could then spend those tokens at the casino playing any gambling game that you would prefer to play. IE Blackjack, Texas Holdem, Roulette, Slots, etc etc.

So in theory it could work. Idk, just something off the top of my head.

I like this, give like 10 chips daily for logging in. As long as these chips cant be bought only traded it seems good. Maybe a shop to exchange coins(no big stuff like weapons) for food, some gambling themed hats or clothes.

KnoCkem 02-11-2016 01:37 AM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 670505)
In my opinion the only way a gambling system could work without causing gambling issues amongst players is if the currency for it is limited and cannot be traded.

Say you got a daily spin on a wagon wheel or something stupid, and that spin would give you X amount of tokens to use for that day. You could then spend those tokens at the casino playing any gambling game that you would prefer to play. IE Blackjack, Texas Holdem, Roulette, Slots, etc etc.

So in theory it could work. Idk, just something off the top of my head.

PLEASE ADD THIS, also i am not very familiar to any of the Gambiling games except for texas holdem and a normal game of cards, you should make a gamemode like the one i said,u put gralats in a pot and a luck based system rolls then someone wins all the money(my post on this thread goes really in depth)

Do you think this will actually happen?

PLEASE ADD THIS IT WOULD MAKE OL WEST PLAYER BASE AND THE OL WESTERN EXPERIENCE MUCH MUCH MUCH BETTER (it also would bring interest to the player were getting kind of bored if u have not noticed)
And if this was added i would say we could start earning credits a while before the "casino/ saloon" was added like gang points so we can have a lot of them ready when it actually releases :):)

please symm make our dreams come true home slice!:love::):D:love:

NightmareK 02-11-2016 01:52 PM

Love the 10 tokens idea per day, don't like them disappearing after a couple days though. It could work though.

IspringOlWest 02-11-2016 02:43 PM

If this actually would get added, the won tokens shouldn't disappear. Meaning that there would be two types of tokens, tokens won and daily tokens for playing, although the tokens won should be playable. This would allow for there to be a leader board for most won tokens and deny anyone who tried to hoard daily tokens for rewards.

NightmareK 02-11-2016 09:03 PM

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Posted by IspringOlWest (Post 670703)
If this actually would get added, the won tokens shouldn't disappear. Meaning that there would be two types of tokens, tokens won and daily tokens for playing, although the tokens won should be playable. This would allow for there to be a leader board for most won tokens and deny anyone who tried to hoard daily tokens for rewards.

This could work, but could be confusing.

NightmareK 02-12-2016 01:58 PM

Need some more opinions. :)

NightmareK 02-17-2016 02:14 AM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...tions_v1.0.txt
Old poker script I have from a old friend that could be editted? :)

Red 02-17-2016 03:28 AM

tl;dr wall of text

NightmareK 02-17-2016 01:51 PM

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Posted by OG (Post 672891)
tl;dr wall of text

???

metal 02-17-2016 04:04 PM

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Posted by NightmareK (Post 672834)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...tions_v1.0.txt
Old poker script I have from a old friend that could be editted? :)

Nice! Is there any video of it running?

NightmareK 02-17-2016 08:06 PM

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Posted by metal (Post 673034)
Nice! Is there any video of it running?

Unfortunately not, the Scripter doesn't play any more but I remember playing with it, what his script did was he had doors with links to separate levels, each door said Poker Room (1-5) $(Gralat amount) and if you grabbed the door and had sufficient amount of gralats, it would warp you to the level and the level had the script in it, this was just so he didn't have to script the GUI

BlazingClapTrap 02-20-2016 04:39 AM

This would be awesome. There could be monthly contests with big payouts.

Senpai Enigma 02-20-2016 04:46 AM

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Posted by BlazingClapTrap (Post 675778)
This would be awesome. There could be monthly contests with big payouts.

100 graalats

SammyPs 02-20-2016 11:08 AM

Arcade?? Ol' West. Technology? :/

You really think this would work?

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Posted by NightmareK (Post 673078)
Unfortunately not, the Scripter doesn't play any more but I remember playing with it, what his script did was he had doors with links to separate levels, each door said Poker Room (1-5) $(Gralat amount) and if you grabbed the door and had sufficient amount of gralats, it would warp you to the level and the level had the script in it, this was just so he didn't have to script the GUI

+ Love the script

metal 02-20-2016 05:19 PM

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Posted by SammyPs (Post 675824)
Arcade?? Ol' West. Technology? :/

You really think this would work?

The melees in this game look like they came out of an anime. Also just call it a gambling parloor and problem solved.

NightmareK 02-22-2016 01:19 PM

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Posted by metal (Post 675919)
The melees in this game look like they came out of an anime. Also just call it a gambling parloor and problem solved.

This. :D

Symmasolan 03-02-2016 03:00 AM

This is the next major project that I'd personally like to put some decent time in to. I like the concept of it all very much, as it would fit ol' west fairly well imo.

I've been thinking through how everything would work, as well as how some of the games would function before beginning any work on it. Even then, it would probably take me a solid two (maybe three?) weeks of work if I was pulling 6-8 hour work days through the 2 weeks. Casino card games can be kinda complicated, considering how many card types there are in a deck. I wasn't just considering card games though :P
We'll see.

Senpai Enigma 03-02-2016 03:21 AM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 680194)
This is the next major project that I'd personally like to put some decent time in to. I like the concept of it all very much, as it would fit ol' west fairly well imo.

I've been thinking through how everything would work, as well as how some of the games would function before beginning any work on it. Even then, it would probably take me a solid two (maybe three?) weeks of work if I was pulling 6-8 hour work days through the 2 weeks. Casino card games can be kinda complicated, considering how many card types there are in a deck. I wasn't just considering card games though :P
We'll see.

8 cards 8 numbers. you can only have 3 cards on hand and add up the cards number and whoever is closer to 21 wins. easy enough

Symmasolan 03-03-2016 06:15 AM

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Posted by Senpai Enigma (Post 680200)
8 cards 8 numbers. you can only have 3 cards on hand and add up the cards number and whoever is closer to 21 wins. easy enough

Well that's just one of the many. Texas Hold 'Em is another one. That one's a little bit more complicated than a 2 sentence explanation.

Asteria 03-03-2016 11:19 AM

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Posted by KnoCkem (Post 670556)
blabla

the head you have as profile pic isn't yours

HeftyWood 03-05-2016 04:02 AM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 680194)
This is the next major project that I'd personally like to put some decent time in to. I like the concept of it all very much, as it would fit ol' west fairly well imo.

I've been thinking through how everything would work, as well as how some of the games would function before beginning any work on it. Even then, it would probably take me a solid two (maybe three?) weeks of work if I was pulling 6-8 hour work days through the 2 weeks. Casino card games can be kinda complicated, considering how many card types there are in a deck. I wasn't just considering card games though[emoji14]
We'll see.

Yeah.... If you could teach little kids to gamble away all their money, that would be great.

Symmasolan 03-06-2016 03:10 PM

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Posted by HeftyWood (Post 681285)
Yeah.... If you could teach little kids to gamble away all their money, that would be great.

Which totally isn't the reason I suggested an entirely separate currency system that would be given out in a regulated manor completely unrelated to the currency that people would actually need to work for, and would be given in a much smaller amount to limit play of the content.

OR

I could make it use Gralats and steal all the money from their parents wallets in a true gambling addiction.

Pick your poison.

Senpai Enigma 03-06-2016 03:58 PM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 681702)
Which totally isn't the reason I suggested an entirely separate currency system that would be given out in a regulated manor completely unrelated to the currency that people would actually need to work for, and would be given in a much smaller amount to limit play of the content.

OR

I could make it use Gralats and steal all the money from their parents wallets in a true gambling addiction.

Pick your poison.

i would like to gamble 3 of my slaves

OlWest 03-06-2016 06:04 PM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 681702)
I could make it use Gralats and steal all the money from their parents wallets in a true gambling addiction.

Great Idea!

HeftyWood 03-06-2016 06:09 PM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 681702)
Which totally isn't the reason I suggested an entirely separate currency system that would be given out in a regulated manor completely unrelated to the currency that people would actually need to work for, and would be given in a much smaller amount to limit play of the content.

OR

I could make it use Gralats and steal all the money from their parents wallets in a true gambling addiction.

Pick your poison.

Using an entirely different currency system given in limited amounts would ruin the purpose. If somebody hits the jackpot, then they cant go buy stuff with it, they are limited only to what is in the prize system. It would have to be grelats, there for teaching kids to gamble.

KnoCkem 03-07-2016 02:16 AM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 681702)
Which totally isn't the reason I suggested an entirely separate currency system that would be given out in a regulated manor completely unrelated to the currency that people would actually need to work for, and would be given in a much smaller amount to limit play of the content.

OR

I could make it use Gralats and steal all the money from their parents wallets in a true gambling addiction.

Pick your poison.

If you do this like i said earlier add a game where everyone puts a certain amount of gralats and the winner takes all from a luck based system
Whole thing of what i said below:

I love your idea but i think it should just be gambling, there is probably young kids on this game but they probably have the swear filter off and i don't think gambling a in game currency is bad.....at all.

But here is one of my ideas(dont take thread off topic i hope)
They add a "Bar/Saloon" (like ur arcade name with a more westerner theme base) when you walk in the saloon/bar there is tables everywhere almost like trade tables but with different designs, also on the bar table buy able food and drinks like bread and beer(you already can buy beer in game, so beer is not bad) and when you walk up to a table u can grab it, basically your idea but not "go fish" lol that sounds to childish and i know that you gave it that name because yes there is kids on this game but lets face it, i think we all know that not a lot of kids play this game, (there is only like 300 people that play this)but anyways when u grab a table like u said there is credits(or just use or gralats) and then the more gralats or credits we put in give us a higher chance to win so say there is a 500 gralat table and a 1000 table, everyone that joins the 1000 table(maximum of like 5) has to put down 1000 and you have to put 1000 to play(no putting above 1000 though) no putting above 1000 so everyone odds are fair, it spins a wheel or does some random thing and the winner takes all but it does the same thing for every table (no matter what the amount of gralats is) also there should be custom tables where you can rent a table and choose how many players can join and the amount of money you wanna put up... say you and your friends wanna bet 100k gralats and you are both feeling lucky, you can buy this table and choose 2 people to join and your friend joins then u can do how ever much money you want, but to join however much money the person says they wanna do it for you have to put in before you join so u add money then u get in. there should also be a watch option so if someone is doing a huge bet everyone can watch and there should be like a leveling system so people know the #1 gambler, in my opinion west would be the best server if they added this in but i am like 80% they wont because they dont want us to have fun and i just wasted 5 minutes of my life typing this, oh well but last but not least these tables should be in bases, so while your basing you and your gang members can gamble instead of sitting there doing nothing,


STAFF PLEASE CONSIDER THIS (great idea night)

Ivy 03-07-2016 02:43 AM

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Posted by KnoCkem (Post 682003)
If you do this like i said earlier add a game where everyone puts a certain amount of gralats and the winner takes all from a luck based system
Whole thing of what i said below:

I love your idea but i think it should just be gambling, there is probably young kids on this game but they probably have the swear filter off and i don't think gambling a in game currency is bad.....at all.

But here is one of my ideas(dont take thread off topic i hope)
They add a "Bar/Saloon" (like ur arcade name with a more westerner theme base) when you walk in the saloon/bar there is tables everywhere almost like trade tables but with different designs, also on the bar table buy able food and drinks like bread and beer(you already can buy beer in game, so beer is not bad) and when you walk up to a table u can grab it, basically your idea but not "go fish" lol that sounds to childish and i know that you gave it that name because yes there is kids on this game but lets face it, i think we all know that not a lot of kids play this game, (there is only like 300 people that play this)but anyways when u grab a table like u said there is credits(or just use or gralats) and then the more gralats or credits we put in give us a higher chance to win so say there is a 500 gralat table and a 1000 table, everyone that joins the 1000 table(maximum of like 5) has to put down 1000 and you have to put 1000 to play(no putting above 1000 though) no putting above 1000 so everyone odds are fair, it spins a wheel or does some random thing and the winner takes all but it does the same thing for every table (no matter what the amount of gralats is) also there should be custom tables where you can rent a table and choose how many players can join and the amount of money you wanna put up... say you and your friends wanna bet 100k gralats and you are both feeling lucky, you can buy this table and choose 2 people to join and your friend joins then u can do how ever much money you want, but to join however much money the person says they wanna do it for you have to put in before you join so u add money then u get in. there should also be a watch option so if someone is doing a huge bet everyone can watch and there should be like a leveling system so people know the #1 gambler, in my opinion west would be the best server if they added this in but i am like 80% they wont because they dont want us to have fun and i just wasted 5 minutes of my life typing this, oh well but last but not least these tables should be in bases, so while your basing you and your gang members can gamble instead of sitting there doing nothing,


STAFF PLEASE CONSIDER THIS (great idea night)

I couldn't read it because it was a massive run on sentence

HeftyWood 03-07-2016 02:46 AM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 682047)
I couldn't read it because it was a massive run on sentence

He even ended it with a comma. lol

Ivy 03-07-2016 02:52 AM

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Posted by HeftyWood (Post 682058)
He even ended it with a comma. lol

Right? Lmaoooo

HeftyWood 03-07-2016 02:55 AM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 682062)
Right? Lmaoooo

It's as if his thoughts are never ending.....like that huge run-on sentence!

NightmareK 03-07-2016 01:52 PM

Currency most definitely wouldn't be a concern whichever way works is fine honestly.

KnoCkem 03-07-2016 02:06 PM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 682047)
I couldn't read it because it was a massive run on sentence

Thank you guys for correcting me! :D

HeftyWood 03-07-2016 03:02 PM

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Posted by KnoCkem (Post 682197)
Thank you guys for correcting me! :D

Always happy to help.

bluemtndew 03-07-2016 08:54 PM

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Posted by Symmasolan (Post 681702)
Which totally isn't the reason I suggested an entirely separate currency system that would be given out in a regulated manor completely unrelated to the currency that people would actually need to work for, and would be given in a much smaller amount to limit play of the content.

OR

I could make it use Gralats and steal all the money from their parents wallets in a true gambling addiction.

Pick your poison.

Horrible gambling addiction resulting in crippling debt, please and thank you.

NightmareK 03-09-2016 01:20 PM

If you don't know how to play, don't play simple.

HeftyWood 03-09-2016 04:34 PM

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Posted by bluemtndew (Post 682323)
Horrible gambling addiction resulting in crippling debt, please and thank you.

Don't forget crack addiction too. Plz add crack buffs


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