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Stowen 02-09-2016 04:48 AM

Bring back Unholy Nation
 
After an incident last night, Unholy Nation had an issue with their SQL Databases. By the looks of it, all databases are a complete loss. I have backups, and Carlito has backups. But because Unholy Nation is "too much of a headache", Carlito has decided to permanently shut the server down. I don't think this is right, and I'm sure the 60+ players that call Unholy Nation their home do not think it is right either.

We need to stand together, and fight for our "home" back!

If you want Unholy Nation back, please sign our petition!

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petition...-unholy-nation

Bryan* 02-09-2016 05:23 AM

404 - Error page not found

KristenGW 02-09-2016 05:55 AM

I thought you need like 100 signatures for a petition to work, so around 60 isn't going to work lol. Plus, a working petition page would be helpful. (For those that play the game)

DanteGraal 02-09-2016 06:03 AM

A petition isn't the right way to go. What you need to do is reunite a group of well known UN players and they all start singing their heart out for the return of their home server. Think of something like this:

Stowen 02-09-2016 06:10 AM

Fixed the URL. Shutting a server down that can easily be fixed with a recent backup is not alright. Unholy Nation was a thriving community, with a very active player base. Until Carlito took over as PWA, they did not have the authority to shut down a server in the classic tab simply because it was "too much of a headache". Alot of developers, including myself, put a lot of time and effort into that server. I could totally understand if it wasn't active, but it is. The community was alive and well.

Vladamir Blackthorne 02-09-2016 06:38 AM

Weren't they intending on rebuilding the server so it wasn't such a mess?

Sir 02-09-2016 07:00 AM

signed

Aguzo 02-09-2016 07:50 AM

You gotta let the game go, and move on with your life.

What's the point of being on a server that is struggling to hit 50+

Sure, you may have shared a lot of memories, and did not want UN to die,
but those memories don't last on the game... they last in your hearts?
(No, really... just add them on another social network)

A lot of people are gonna say no, but... honestly, if you want, you could just play on iClassic. It's pretty much the same, except with... you know... people.


With all that said, I'd probably be a little dissapointed when iClassic goes to sleep, but you know, nothing lasts forever.

Skyzer 02-09-2016 08:27 AM

**** UN.

Racil 02-09-2016 08:27 AM

I'd rather play on a server with fourty players than one with a thousand.

Crono 02-09-2016 08:58 AM

what the ****, UN has been standing relatively strong since 2001...this is stupid. the server is garbage but it's the only "classic" server that was left on the serverlist.

Dusty 02-09-2016 11:16 AM

I'm not much of a fan of UN but as far as PC servers go it's been relatively stable with its playerbase. I see no reason it should be gone due to a stroke of bad luck. May as well shut down all the PC servers if this is their reasoning.

Thallen 02-09-2016 11:18 AM

Keep in mind that you're only hearing one side of the story here. I would be interested in Carlito elaborating on his criteria for "too much of a headache."

I played UN for about a week (after not playing it for years) after Christmas because iClassic was just too laggy. Carlito had to be dragged online several times during those days to handle the most petty stuff, such as players mass messaging personal information and UN staff freely allowing banned players to loiter about the server.

He'd come online, clean the mess up, log off, and then mass messages would return to how he should kill himself, how he's a terrible PWA, etc.

If staff did a more conscious effort in weeding out the trashbags of the community, this probably wouldn't happen. I don't even have to name names. You guys hire people as staff who harass players, give out IP addresses and personal information, make weird websites targeting your community, etc. The in-game forums were a cesspool of inside-joke harassment and strange ********* jokes. It's pretty weird, not gonna lie...
And you guys openly integrate those types of people into your community by giving them NPCs around the map and hiring them as staff. I don't understand why.

So anyway, it's a shame that it happened because there are people like Stowen, Ph8, and others who actually worked on the server and didn't contribute to it being a garbage can.

Distorted_P2P 02-09-2016 12:22 PM

GTA should be hosted again now that UN is gone

Skyzer 02-09-2016 01:31 PM

Quote:

Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 669915)
GTA should be hosted again now that UN is gone

Can't speak for Thor, but I'm not too keen on helping Graal after being screwed over so many times by management.

Zetectic 02-09-2016 02:13 PM

sad to hear. if UN never returns i hope thor would give a job to people like stowen and ph8.

Basi 02-09-2016 02:56 PM

dont bring it back, play classic

Dusty 02-09-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Posted by Basi (Post 669942)
dont bring it back, play classic

Nothing creates a satisfied playerbase like forcing them to play something by taking away their options.

Thor 02-09-2016 05:51 PM

Quote:

Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 669915)
GTA should be hosted again now that UN is gone

Quote:

Posted by Zetectic (Post 669937)
sad to hear. if UN never returns i hope thor would give a job to people like stowen and ph8.

It should not be assumed that I wish for GtA to be publicly listed at this time.

Stowen 02-09-2016 07:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thor (Post 669976)
It should not be assumed that I wish for GtA to be publicly listed at this time.

It should also not be assumed that I want to develop for Graaf any further than UN.

No offense to GtA or Thor, of course, you did a wonderful job with GtA.

Thor 02-09-2016 07:19 PM

Quote:

Posted by Stowen (Post 670005)
No offense to GtA or Thor, of course, you did a wonderful job with GtA.

None taken. I should probably have added that I would never expect someone to jump ship from their home server that they have worked hard on as if nothing had happened.

Emera 02-09-2016 07:23 PM

You must be ****ing joking.

GOAT 02-09-2016 07:30 PM

Forget UN, GTA please remove the pause crap, so I can pk these afk socializing pedos. I'll run them out to Delteria, so they can play with the tranny.:D

Zetectic 02-09-2016 07:43 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thor (Post 670006)
None taken. I should probably have added that I would never expect someone to jump ship from their home server that they have worked hard on as if nothing had happened.

woe my bad. i didn't intend to start up a fire there.

Livid 02-09-2016 07:56 PM

Whoa wtf, it had a good player base. Up to 60-70 players on a day/night, just because he didn't like it means he can take it down? Wow... wtf thats some bs I'm spamming that petition.

PumaD 02-09-2016 09:11 PM

Doesn't Delteria give him the hugest headcache considering he's "fixing and working on it 24/7 all alone"? Maybe.. he should shut down Delteria? o:

Red 02-09-2016 09:38 PM

In other words UN's life support has been cut off rest in peace to a server that has been breathing through a toilet roll for over a decade

Alexmo 02-09-2016 09:56 PM

What's the next server that is going to die iclassic

metal 02-09-2016 10:10 PM

Seems like he didnt want to deal the pressure any longer, I dont blame him.

Fulgore 02-09-2016 10:24 PM

I hope it returns, I like it there for the times that I am on.

Stowen 02-10-2016 02:19 AM

It's back guys, thanks for the support ^_^

Skyzer 02-10-2016 02:20 AM

Probably going to blow up again. ROFL

Sardon 02-10-2016 02:24 AM

My items are messed up why doesn't my bank have my stuff
how old is this backup

Skyzer 02-10-2016 02:30 AM

Prob a month.

Wolfie 02-10-2016 04:16 AM

Congratz UN. Will come on to check my items

T3CK 02-11-2016 03:20 PM

Let me chime in on this subject, and that is that this has been coming for a long time. UN is on life support now, and very well should be. Why?

UN Gameflow
1. Play spar game
2. Mass message
3. Play spar game
4. Spar one guy 70 times
5. Spar game
6. Get banned


The content of the server is lacking, nothing new has happened in 10 years, and players are dropping like flies. There is also a problem with management, as there are 3 or 4 people who just rotate in and out of various staff positions, and all talking about their "plan", and nothing ever comes of it.

And the quality of the players there? As soon as I log in, mass messages start about how "T3CK is fat!" "T3CK is ugly!" This kind of conversation is representative of the quality of the whole server as a whole, and I am glad to see it finally going under.

Everybody knows the whole reason these servers still exist is because dev staff on FB and mobile servers use the PC client and pulling the plug on them would just create unnecessary fussing and moaning.

Let it go, people, this is 2016, time to move on. It was a big part of my life growing up too but as Graal evolved so did I. I now parade around Classic as John Rocker.

kaida 02-11-2016 03:43 PM

UN is a like a forgotten legend . Classic will become the same if the ****ty lag don't go away (Don't tell me its not as simple as that , i know it already)

Bryan* 02-11-2016 06:43 PM

UN is a good place to separate yourself from the infectious imbeciles that lurk in iClassic. Less lag and you can befriend players who aren't arrogant.

Skill 02-12-2016 02:55 AM

UN was my favorite server, so pissed to see it go. With it's unique events it offered an experience unlike any other MMO. Era and Zodiac are just massive grindfests you can't enjoy unless you put hundreds of hours into them. UN on the other hand offered a level playing field.

Classic the adventure is nice, but once you complete the quests there's nothing to do.

edit: holy **** its back up, so glad to see it back. I hope they work on their security so there's less issues.

Fulgore 02-12-2016 03:51 AM

Quote:

Posted by T3CK (Post 670720)
Let me chime in on this subject, and that is that this has been coming for a long time. UN is on life support now, and very well should be. Why?

UN Gameflow
1. Play spar game
2. Mass message
3. Play spar game
4. Spar one guy 70 times
5. Spar game
6. Get banned


The content of the server is lacking, nothing new has happened in 10 years, and players are dropping like flies. There is also a problem with management, as there are 3 or 4 people who just rotate in and out of various staff positions, and all talking about their "plan", and nothing ever comes of it.

And the quality of the players there? As soon as I log in, mass messages start about how "T3CK is fat!" "T3CK is ugly!" This kind of conversation is representative of the quality of the whole server as a whole, and I am glad to see it finally going under.

Everybody knows the whole reason these servers still exist is because dev staff on FB and mobile servers use the PC client and pulling the plug on them would just create unnecessary fussing and moaning.

Let it go, people, this is 2016, time to move on. It was a big part of my life growing up too but as Graal evolved so did I. I now parade around Classic as John Rocker.

It could be because you mass that you're the best and that "you've returned in a glorious fashion" while referring to yourself in 3rd person. Just a guess.

Sardon 02-12-2016 04:58 AM

If you checked the news they are offering 3 options to retreive lost items
either

1. they work with individual players to get their items back
2. they give a bunch of ep as compensation to those who lost stuff
3. Everyone gets reset


Better not be option 3.

T3CK 02-12-2016 01:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 671015)
It could be because you mass that you're the best and that "you've returned in a glorious fashion" while referring to yourself in 3rd person. Just a guess.

Trust me filgore I know you're a late Comer to the server but all these things came about long before that gimmick started. I only started that gimmick in response to how dull the server was. And the dissing me in masses used to be the only semi entertaining thing there, now the mass arguing isn't even original, just standard middle school garbage, the kind of thing UN homers say I have to go to classic to get.

In fact a server manager begged me to come on and help with 'scripting because I'm a professional but I kind of just didn't do anything because I saw it as a lost cause.

Alexmo 02-12-2016 06:33 PM

Hey why can't we just scrap this server and have some people work on deltira for ions and Android

Distorted_P2P 02-12-2016 06:37 PM

Quote:

Posted by Alexmo (Post 671175)
Hey why can't we just scrap this server and have some people work on deltira for ions and Android

is he a troll or not guys

Distorted_P2P 02-12-2016 07:57 PM

lmaoooo UN is dead anyways, here's footage I took from an event today

who even cares about un at this point
https://gyazo.com/6098a0482e95523c849d291c468c49a4.gif

a couple minutes later
https://gyazo.com/36439db0ae2594071d244840184966f6.gif

Alexmo 02-12-2016 08:07 PM

Quote:

Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 671209)
lmaoooo UN is dead anyways, here's footage I took from an event today

who even cares about un at this point
https://gyazo.com/6098a0482e95523c849d291c468c49a4.gif

a couple minutes later
https://gyazo.com/36439db0ae2594071d244840184966f6.gif

Lol the game is dead all right

5hift 02-12-2016 08:23 PM

Well PC graal has been dying since mobile graal.

Not really surprised.

But I honestly like the PC servers more than mobile servers so this is kinda disappointing.

Warhawk 02-12-2016 10:04 PM

UN is nothing without BTK

Thallen 02-12-2016 11:03 PM

Quote:

Posted by Warhawk (Post 671262)
UN is nothing without BTK

You didn't even play UN when it was alive, 2007-2008 babies wouldn't know about it

Skyzer 02-13-2016 01:08 AM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 671297)
You didn't even play UN when it was alive, 2007-2008 babies wouldn't know about it

Sucked back then too, tbh.


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