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Bryan* 02-08-2016 05:26 PM

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Seriously, who handles them and what level of intelligence and comprehension skills do they have? I ask a question about the ban timer, many players are suffering from this as well, that it isn't decreasing when you're not on the app and instead it starts at the time stamp it intially was. For example, the time remaining for me was at 1744 hours and then I closed the app at 1742. I re-opened it at it was right back to 1744.


The response I get is that the ban won't be overturned. There was no indication in my ticket that I wanted it to be overturned. There's an issue with the ban timer.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1454955842

Asteria 02-08-2016 06:07 PM

Lmao I hope this man doesn't get paid with irl money.

Emera 02-08-2016 06:08 PM

The level of support given is pretty shocking in all honesty.

Areo 02-08-2016 06:17 PM

Could be an auto-response. If it reads the word "ban" in your email it will just send that, but I doubt that it actually is.

Kosiris 02-08-2016 06:47 PM

I've asked them to unlink my account from my brother's account a while back and they replied: "Your bans are caused by your own actions", ?????

Albie 02-08-2016 06:51 PM

I swear, whoever handles these is stupid and what makes it even worse is when staff try and defend it.

Zetectic 02-08-2016 06:59 PM

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 669666)
I've asked them to unlink my account from my brother's account

u get auto unlinked from everything when u are unbanned, am i rite?

Gitaz 02-08-2016 07:01 PM

my dog is making weird noises :( but nonetheless, yeah its stoopid #Colin4supporttickers he might be evil and all, but at least he answers you with truth, honesty and fairness. COLIN REP ME <3

Aguzo 02-08-2016 07:34 PM

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 669666)
I've asked them to unlink my account from my brother's account a while back and they replied: "Your bans are caused by your own actions", ?????

If you and your brother use the same ip you can't really prove to toonslab that your brother's acc isn't just your alternate.

Main topic:

Honestly, if you think about it for 2 mins, you might wonder, "Hmm... Am I the only one having this problem with the bans?"

There could be a lot of people thinking that their hours aren't passing by, unless they stay on the app.

Maybe the people who review the bans decided to just auto-respond with a message towards the majority of the complaints, which is "I didn't do it!"

And they have probably gotten the lesser of feedback from "My hours aren't reducing, help!", so they kept the same auto-response.

Doesn't mean they don't care, or have no interest in your message. They probably just need to confirm the problem, and fix it.

What do you want them to say? "Thank you for notifying us, we will fix this soon"? Give it time.

Skyzer 02-08-2016 07:44 PM

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Emera 02-08-2016 08:06 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 669685)
If you and your brother use the same ip you can't really prove to toonslab that your brother's acc isn't just your alternate.

Main topic:

Honestly, if you think about it for 2 mins, you might wonder, "Hmm... Am I the only one having this problem with the bans?"

There could be a lot of people thinking that their hours aren't passing by, unless they stay on the app.

Maybe the people who review the bans decided to just auto-respond with a message towards the majority of the complaints, which is "I didn't do it!"

And they have probably gotten the lesser of feedback from "My hours aren't reducing, help!", so they kept the same auto-response.

Doesn't mean they don't care, or have no interest in your message. They probably just need to confirm the problem, and fix it.

What do you want them to say? "Thank you for notifying us, we will fix this soon"? Give it time.

That's not how you operate a support desk. If they are doing this, then they shouldn't be. All tickets should be read over properly and responded to professionally. Time isn't the issue here, it's the kind of responses people are getting.

Aguzo 02-08-2016 08:33 PM

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Posted by Emera (Post 669692)
That's not how you operate a support desk. If they are doing this, then they shouldn't be. All tickets should be read over properly and responded to professionally. Time isn't the issue here, it's the kind of responses people are getting.

Except time is actually the issue here...

Are you willing to go over thousands (Probably thousands) of ban appeals all saying the same thing?

Maybe the person/people reviewing have a lot of other tickets that they need to check, so they just ctrl v, instead of giving every single person a "special" message.
I'm sure they took OP's ticket into account. Maybe it's just a bug, and his hours aren't actually not dropping.

You don't even know if OP sent in a lot more tickets, and the person reviewing already told him that his ban won't be appealed.
Basing that assumption off of a recent thread he made, complaining about a ban. (Got deleted, I think)

Emera 02-08-2016 08:37 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 669699)
Except time is actually the issue here...

Are you willing to go over thousands (Probably thousands) of ban appeals all saying the same thing?

Maybe the person/people reviewing have a lot of other tickets that they need to check, so they just ctrl v, instead of giving every single person a "special" message.

Yes actually. I've worked with and directed support desks for years now, and I have to process tickets far more laborious than ban appeals every day. If you don't properly read through every ticket, you'll miss legitimate issues and piss people off. This isn't the kind of support that should be being provided to players, especially when some of them are paying customers.

The issue isn't the canned response, it's the fact that the ticket clearly wasn't read properly, which seems to be the case with a lot of other submitted tickets too.

Bryan* 02-08-2016 08:47 PM

I don't care about waiting the duration of the ban but it's going to be impossible if the ban timer isn't functioning the way it's supposed to. Already confirmed that 3 users on this forum who are currently banned that their timers aren't working. The person who responded to my ticket is highly incompetent that's for sure. Just fix the issue about the ban timer that's all. I can wait to April to be unbanned.

Aguzo 02-08-2016 08:49 PM

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Posted by Emera (Post 669701)
Yes actually. I've worked with and directed support desks for years now, and I have to process tickets far more laborious than ban appeals every day. If you don't properly read through every ticket, you'll miss legitimate issues and piss people off. This isn't the kind of support that should be being provided to players, especially when some of them are paying customers.

The issue isn't the canned response, it's the fact that the ticket clearly wasn't read properly, which seems to be the case with a lot of other submitted tickets too.

How can you tell that the ticket wasn't read properly?
Based off of the response? Maybe they took the message into account, even though the response message isn't 100% satisfying.
Maybe the person who handled the ticket didn't know what else to say.

Can't just get pissed off every time something doesn't go your way, gotta have patience.

Like I said, could just be a bug, and there is really nothing to worry about.
Meaning his the hours for his ban time probably are reducing, just the countdown is bugged.

Emera 02-08-2016 08:58 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 669709)
How can you tell that the ticket wasn't read properly?
Based off of the response? Maybe they took the message into account, even though the response message isn't 100% satisfying.
Maybe the person who handled the ticket didn't know what else to say.

Can't just get pissed off every time something doesn't go your way, gotta have patience.

Like I said, could just be a bug, and there is really nothing to worry about.
Meaning his the hours for his ban time probably are reducing, just the countdown is bugged.

I think it's pretty clear from the response that the ticket wasn't read properly. If you "don't know what you say" in a reply to a support ticket, you should't be tasked with replying to support tickets.

deadowl 02-08-2016 09:08 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 669649)
Seriously, who handles them and what level of intelligence and comprehension skills do they have? I ask a question about the ban timer, many players are suffering from this as well, that it isn't decreasing when you're not on the app and instead it starts at the time stamp it intially was. For example, the time remaining for me was at 1744 hours and then I closed the app at 1742. I re-opened it at it was right back to 1744.


The response I get is that the ban won't be overturned. There was no indication in my ticket that I wanted it to be overturned. There's an issue with the ban timer.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1454955842

I think what needs to be considered here is the possibility that they're trying to semi-automate common ticket responses. Some poor guy working for **** wages in India could reasonably have a big backlog of ban-related issues assigned to him and decided to skim to keep up instead of actually reading the description.

That said, is there any reason why it wouldn't make sense resubmit without using the word "ban" directly?

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 669709)
How can you tell that the ticket wasn't read properly?
Based off of the response? Maybe they took the message into account, even though the response message isn't 100% satisfying.
Maybe the person who handled the ticket didn't know what else to say.

Can't just get pissed off every time something doesn't go your way, gotta have patience.

Like I said, could just be a bug, and there is really nothing to worry about.
Meaning his the hours for his ban time probably are reducing, just the countdown is bugged.

I have a strong feeling that you have worked in customer service before.

Red 02-08-2016 09:41 PM

Its a terrible support system, I does not matter what you send them its literally the same copypaste message over and over again.

You didn't appeal for an unban which most likely means this was a bot which I've mentioned dozens of times do exist and staff defend it saying there are no bots and its always them reviewing these reports.

As Albie said it pisses me, him and a lot of other people off when a staff member defends this disgraceful support system when clearly its broken.

metal 02-08-2016 09:59 PM

Still not as bad as steam customer support.

Red 02-08-2016 10:01 PM

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Posted by metal (Post 669727)
Still not as bad as steam customer support.

Lol I've read about those stories on reddit, takes like 6 weeks to get a response and then they wait another 4 weeks to give you an answer from a bot

metal 02-08-2016 10:14 PM

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Posted by OG (Post 669729)
Lol I've read about those stories on reddit, takes like 6 weeks to get a response and then they wait another 4 weeks to give you an answer from a bot

Happened to me, I was having a problem with a valve game and was contacting steam support. They responded almost a week later with some copy pasted message and just closed the ticket. By then I solved the problem myself.

Red 02-08-2016 10:16 PM

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Posted by metal (Post 669740)
Happened to me, I was having a problem with a valve game and was contacting steam support. They responded almost a week later with some copy pasted message and just closed the ticket. By then I solved the problem myself.

I've asked to get a refund on a few games and I got them within 3 weeks lol

metal 02-08-2016 10:18 PM

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Posted by OG (Post 669742)
I've asked to get a refund on a few games and I got them within 3 weeks lol

Refunds are different, as long as you played less than 2 hours and owned it for less than 2 weeks it goes pretty smoothly, I even refunded a game that I played slightly more than 2 hours before.

Jellybeans 02-08-2016 10:28 PM

Ikr! I haven't been able to play Classic normally since September because they won't listen to me. They keep saying "the account does not appear to be banned. If you are still banned, please check the ban id to be sure you gave us the correct ban id".

On Ol'West, Zone and Era support, they actually listen to my complaints and answer them.

metal 02-08-2016 11:27 PM

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Posted by Jellybeans (Post 669753)
Ikr! I haven't been able to play Classic normally since September because they won't listen to me. They keep saying "the account does not appear to be banned. If you are still banned, please check the ban id to be sure you gave us the correct ban id".

On Ol'West, Zone and Era support, they actually listen to my complaints and answer them.

..Dont they all have the same support? Toonslab?

Seth 02-08-2016 11:34 PM

Pro tip dont get banned

Bryan* 02-08-2016 11:37 PM

I submitted another ticket without using the word "ban" and I still got the same response...I am fed up with the crappy automated service that's provided for the players. Several of us won't be able to wait our duration of the bans if 1. Timer isn't functioning and 2. Toonslab is responding with automated replies for ban appeals when I am not asking for an appeal.

metal 02-08-2016 11:43 PM

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Posted by SETHFTW (Post 669773)
Pro tip dont get banned

Thats no fun tho

Jellybeans 02-08-2016 11:44 PM

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Posted by metal (Post 669770)
..Dont they all have the same support? Toonslab?

support.toonslab.com? They have different people who view the tickets for different servers I think..

Because for Era, Ace, Ventus, xcloudx, Vendhin and Snk replied to my tickets.

On Ol' West, Ace, Homelesswitch and Ser replied to them.

And on Zone, Tashkin used to reply to my tickets but recently no one has replied but the issue was resolved.

On Classsic, I've never seen the name of who responded, so idk who answered them.

metal 02-08-2016 11:47 PM

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Posted by Jellybeans (Post 669779)
support.toonslab.com? They have different people who view the tickets for different servers I think..

Because for Era, Ace, Ventus, xcloudx, Vendhin and Snk replied to my tickets.

On Ol' West, Ace, Homelesswitch and Ser replied to them.

And on Zone, Tashkin used to reply to my tickets but recently no one has replied but the issue was resolved.

On Classsic, I've never seen the name of who responded, so idk who answered them.

Makes sense, although im curious to why you're submitting so many tickets..

Jellybeans 02-08-2016 11:50 PM

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Posted by metal (Post 669782)
Makes sense, although im curious to why you're submitting so many tickets..

Because admins often wrongfully jail me or jail me for unfair amounts of time (16,666 hours)..

Bryan* 02-09-2016 12:33 AM

This is an issue for several players such as Ariana, Albie, Agone, and myself to name a few. No matter what we do, our time stamps can go down but if we go back into the screen to see how much is left, it goes right back up to what it initially began with.


Test: I let it dropped to 1739, and it went back up to 1744 once I closed the app.

Update: Seems to be functioning now. Will see if anything occurs later on or tomorrow.

Gitaz 02-09-2016 03:11 PM

is there anyway or possibility that Graal will be looking for investments so they become an open trade company and we throw the idiots Xor and Unixmad out of their position?

Vicipower 02-09-2016 03:42 PM

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Posted by Gitaz (Post 669947)
is there anyway or possibility that Graal will be looking for investments so they become an open trade company and we throw the idiots Xor and Unixmad out of their position?

i dont think u can throw unixmad out of his Position unless you got enough Money to buy graal from him

Skyzer 02-10-2016 02:16 AM

or kill him

Bryan* 02-27-2016 11:31 PM

Update: It's happening once more, the timer is not working. Stuck at 1292:40 every time I disconnect and reconnect into the game.

Skyzer 02-27-2016 11:55 PM

Find a better game to play.

Ryan 02-28-2016 01:36 AM

I wish eurocenter still ran graal

0.5 02-28-2016 02:22 AM

I'm ded.....

This is what I spend money on and GET false BANS and they really need to focus on who they banning because

THERES A LOT OF FALSE BANS and those who deserve it get 0 treatment

KristenGW 02-28-2016 02:56 AM

When I got banned for 2500 hours back in February 2015 the clock didn't stop if I wasn't on screen, but it was slow and the ban time stretches to about 3000 hours

Adam Silver 02-28-2016 05:21 AM

Once, I submitted a support ticket. It emailed me saying it had been read. The official status on the actual ticket was that it wasn't read. And I have never gotten a reply, and now the ticket is gone. The issue was resolved but that isn't really the point now is it..

Bryan* 02-28-2016 05:32 AM

I already addressed Andromeda and Pharaoh about the situation. I've also feedback it in Classic. Hopefully it gets resolved.

Skyzer 02-28-2016 06:35 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 678823)
I wish eurocenter still ran graal

It does.

Crono 02-28-2016 11:23 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 678823)
I wish eurocenter still ran graal

:unsure::unsure::unsure:

Tucker 02-28-2016 11:31 AM

How in the hell do i create a new post??

Zomgula 02-28-2016 03:08 PM

Some similar bull**** is happening to me as well.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34501

Vanic 03-13-2016 07:02 AM

toonslab is dumb af they never overturn. I got banned for 6 months for calling the new deadwood hats garbage and they don't give a duck fart.


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