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Billy Bandit 01-18-2016 04:01 PM
Era, the Game that is Losing Players Fast
 
So, I myself quit actively playing era about a year ago. I downloaded and checked in at times just to see if there was anything new. To my surprise (not really surprised) there has been nothing new but maybe a couple of guns. Era is a dying game. As long as the staff isn't doing their job and providing us new content the game will continue to die. The lack of competitive play on this game is also a reason I stopped playing. One competitive event (GST) isn't enough to satisfy those who actually play to be the best. League of Legends is a game that has a season through out the year. Maybe era could implement the same find of thing. Have like 10 teams of maybe 10 people who play 1 game a week for a season and have the top 8 teams enter a single elimination tounament where the winners would receive some kind of prize. (Graalts, etc.)

Bram- 01-18-2016 04:07 PM
The game isn't dying at all the team is continue trying to improve the game. We also hitted our player record some weeks ago(4,6k players)
So no.

Howl 01-18-2016 04:28 PM
2016 is the year of improvement, mark my words. Our average player-count has also risen quite significantly, so not too sure what you're talking about to be honest.

LightsongAzure 01-18-2016 05:01 PM
I'll go back to frequently and actively playing Era if gun rusting effects were nerfed or removed and they weren't honest-to-heart trying to sell guns at 100k gralats a piece.

ChocoNotes 01-18-2016 05:48 PM
you realise graal isnt meant to be heavily content based and wouldnt work as such?
the social aspect is its main feature, hence mmorpg

LightsongAzure 01-18-2016 05:51 PM
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Posted by ChocoNotes (Post 662304)
you realise graal isnt meant to be heavily content based and wouldnt work as such?
the social aspect is its main feature, hence mmorpg
MMORPGs include EverQuest, LOTRO and WoW, some of the lore heavyweights in the gaming scene. You should perhaps state that Era is a social MMORPG, not that MMORPGs are inherently based on social aspects.

metal 01-18-2016 08:33 PM
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Posted by ChocoNotes (Post 662304)
you realise graal isnt meant to be heavily content based and wouldnt work as such?
the social aspect is its main feature, hence mmorpg
I may have missed where the rpg is in graal.

Pr0m4N V.14 01-19-2016 12:44 AM
You should see zone...

Wolfie 01-19-2016 12:47 AM
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Posted by Pr0m4N V.14 (Post 662462)
You should see zone...
Zone's development is abysmal.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 01-19-2016 01:11 AM
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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662293)
I'll go back to frequently and actively playing Era if gun rusting effects were nerfed or removed and they weren't honest-to-heart trying to sell guns at 100k gralats a piece.
If you buy vip all your guns remain in perfect condition whilst you have it

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Posted by metal (Post 662378)
I may have missed where the rpg is in graal.
You role play your own character identity

Zetectic 01-19-2016 02:14 AM
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lol heck. era is never boring when u have $$ and homiz.

i buy it or not? boiz
http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1453173267
vote vvv

Ivy 01-19-2016 03:09 AM
I like how whenever someone doesn't get what they want or content isn't being released at an "acceptable" rate according to their standards, a server is all of a sudden "dying".

Weeno 01-19-2016 04:29 AM
Era is really successful. Even though players are ungrateful and just buy packs there's like twelve updates every month. Seasons are automatically worked on and changed for the holidays too.

Enfy 01-19-2016 04:50 AM
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Posted by Bram- (Post 662271)
The game isn't dying at all the team is continue trying to improve the game. We also hitted our player record some weeks ago(4,6k players)
So no.
Ok.

DarkKnight 01-19-2016 12:11 PM
yeah what do u expect from a "dev team" of 13 year olds?

Howl 01-19-2016 12:47 PM
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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 662580)
yeah what do u expect from a "dev team" of 13 year olds?
As soon as I saw that you posted on this thread, I knew it was going to be something totally irrelevant and negative to the topic.

metal 01-19-2016 02:06 PM
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Posted by Enfy (Post 662526)
Ok.
https://40.media.tumblr.com/a599ca54...t61eo2_500.png

Skyzer 01-19-2016 05:03 PM
"My friends don't play anymore and I don't enjoy the game as much as I used to. The game must be dying."

LightsongAzure 01-19-2016 05:27 PM
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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 662474)
If you buy vip all your guns remain in perfect condition whilst you have it
"If you pay a subscription to gain access to pay2win features, the problems go away!" Is this not the same with every MMO in the f2p genre?

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 662485)
lol heck. era is never boring when u have $$ and homiz.

i buy it or not? boiz
http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1453173267
vote vvv
This entire post makes me want to puke.

Chickenpotpie 01-19-2016 06:04 PM
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Posted by Enfy (Post 662526)
Ok.

ESL m8.

linkez 01-19-2016 07:08 PM
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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662655)
"If you pay a subscription to gain access to pay2win features, the problems go away!" Is this not the same with every MMO in the f2p genre?



This entire post makes me want to puke.
Lol Tumblr people be like "I'm going to puke stop triggering me"

John 01-19-2016 07:16 PM
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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662655)
"If you pay a subscription to gain access to pay2win features, the problems go away!" Is this not the same with every MMO in the f2p genre?



This entire post makes me want to puke.
You don't have to buy VIP that's the thing and it doesn't even cost much, most people can get it in a hour btw.

LightsongAzure 01-19-2016 07:23 PM
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Posted by linkez (Post 662676)
Lol Tumblr people be like "I'm going to puke stop triggering me"
You can justify people paying 100k gralats for a gun? Implying it's not pay2win? Perhaps you can't since all you have to say is ad hominem.

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Posted by John (Post 662678)
You don't have to buy VIP that's the thing and it doesn't even cost much, most people can get it in a hour btw.
This does not solve the problem. This is like me playing CrossFire and playing with the stock rifle and saying "oh it doesnt matter that people are given clear advantages with paid weapons, I can just play without it!!".

It's just deflection of obvious pay2win concepts embedded in Era.

Asaiki 01-19-2016 09:32 PM
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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 662580)
yeah what do u expect from a "dev team" of 13 year olds?
the dev teams are 15+

metal 01-19-2016 09:49 PM
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Posted by John (Post 662678)
You don't have to buy VIP that's the thing and it doesn't even cost much, most people can get it in a hour btw.
How the hell are you making $7500 in an hour?

5hift 01-19-2016 10:34 PM
If you have feedback on the game, by all means, post it.

But don't use bait-clicky titles like this otherwise people are going to get the idea that you're trying to bash the game.

John 01-19-2016 10:47 PM
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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662681)
You can justify people paying 100k gralats for a gun? Implying it's not pay2win? Perhaps you can't since all you have to say is ad hominem.



This does not solve the problem. This is like me playing CrossFire and playing with the stock rifle and saying "oh it doesnt matter that people are given clear advantages with paid weapons, I can just play without it!!".

It's just deflection of obvious pay2win concepts embedded in Era.
VIP isn't a good example of what you're trying to prove here because their is nothing P2w about it. You can get all that stuff in a 30 mins if you aren't lazy.

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Posted by metal (Post 662730)
How the hell are you making $7500 in an hour?
Multiple jobs. I retract my statement saying that, but you can make close to 3k a hour if you work hard enough.

imSupah 01-19-2016 10:51 PM
Era don't look like it's dying. I mean I haven't touched the server since Nov because I got jailed but I check Era-Go time to time and saw the thread about the 4.2k players. It might be dying by your standards, but overall it seem to be doing just fine.

Weeno 01-19-2016 10:58 PM
more than fine its succeeding. Everything from graphics to levels are great.

LightsongAzure 01-19-2016 11:36 PM
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Posted by John (Post 662752)
VIP isn't a good example of what you're trying to prove here because their is nothing P2w about it. You can get all that stuff in a 30 mins if you aren't lazy.



Multiple jobs. I retract my statement saying that, but you can make close to 3k a hour if you work hard enough.
First you're saying you can get all these things in 30 mins, but then you say 3k an hour? What are you on about m8?

DarkKnight 01-20-2016 01:11 AM
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Posted by Howl (Post 662584)
As soon as I saw that you posted on this thread, I knew it was going to be something totally irrelevant and negative to the topic.
Who cares if it's negative? It's the truth and it's relevant, as it relates to why the server is losing players. Watching you defend iEra is like watching the captain of the Titanic saying that the Titanic is unsinkable... as it's sinking.

Howl 01-20-2016 01:33 AM
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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 662817)
Who cares if it's negative? It's the truth and it's relevant, as it relates to why the server is losing players. Watching you defend iEra is like watching the captain of the Titanic saying that the Titanic is unsinkable... as it's sinking.
The thing is, the server isn't losing players, therefore, it isn't "sinking".

Zetectic 01-20-2016 02:16 AM
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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662655)
This entire post makes me want to puke.
lol i just had to post that pic here in some way.
sry for horrible caption.

but fr 10mil g? lmao

LightsongAzure 01-20-2016 02:16 AM
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Posted by Zetectic (Post 662839)
lol i just had to post that pic here in some way.
sry for horrible caption.

but fr 10mil g? lmao
Nothing against you :P I was referring to the actual picture.

John 01-20-2016 02:31 AM
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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662771)
First you're saying you can get all these things in 30 mins, but then you say 3k an hour? What are you on about m8?
Not on nothing, you're misinterpreting my words lol. You're forgetting about the other revive options like the 2 day or the week option for 1k gralats. The unlimited ammo for 7 days for 1k gralats and 15 mins on the treadmill for speed boost.

DarkKnight 01-20-2016 07:07 AM
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Posted by Howl (Post 662822)
The thing is, the server isn't losing players, therefore, it isn't "sinking".
ur like hitler assuring his country that they're winning the war

BEH0LD iTz SAM 01-20-2016 07:50 AM
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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662655)
"If you pay a subscription to gain access to pay2win features, the problems go away!" Is this not the same with every MMO in the f2p genre?



This entire post makes me want to puke.
Having perfect guns is not p2w, you can either mine to get your minerals, or do what I used to do which was trade muchrooms/trash for ores from miners since those sell more than ores, so then I had enough ores to repair whenever I needed to

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 662817)
Who cares if it's negative? It's the truth and it's relevant, as it relates to why the server is losing players. Watching you defend iEra is like watching the captain of the Titanic saying that the Titanic is unsinkable... as it's sinking.
How's your server going lol, your player count is barely keeping 50 and from the sounds of it most are quitting once the reset happens. Btw, as mentioned before we recently just passed our max player count, so I don't see what players we are losing, or that our server is "sinking"

The "13 year old" developer thing made me laugh aswell, wasn't that how old you were when you were staff here? Besides to my knowledge our youngest staff is/ was 15, not sure if he is still even working here either

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Posted by LightsongAzure (Post 662681)
This does not solve the problem. This is like me playing CrossFire and playing with the stock rifle and saying "oh it doesnt matter that people are given clear advantages with paid weapons, I can just play without it!!".

It's just deflection of obvious pay2win concepts embedded in Era.
The game has to make money somehow, and $2.50 on the app store is not going to cover the costs of running the server in addition to making a healthy profit. It's an ios game after all, this isn't some $80 game that has equal balancing.
Even without the 100k guns, you can still be competitive with that price range with 50-60k guns, it just requires more skill on your part which will ultimately make you a better player anyway than the people who just buy the 200k guns and hold shoot.

If you just work for it you can get 50k anyway from doing jobs, awhile back I made a new account and made a basic money making guide which got me about 7k in a few hours, I was only using a neo rifle and ap7s for a total cost of 15k and then a custom head and body for 30k and I was still able to have fun sparring and doing some basing

DarkKnight 01-21-2016 07:42 PM
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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 662912)
Having perfect guns is not p2w, you can either mine to get your minerals, or do what I used to do which was trade muchrooms/trash for ores from miners since those sell more than ores, so then I had enough ores to repair whenever I needed to



How's your server going lol, your player count is barely keeping 50 and from the sounds of it most are quitting once the reset happens. Btw, as mentioned before we recently just passed our max player count, so I don't see what players we are losing, or that our server is "sinking"

The "13 year old" developer thing made me laugh aswell, wasn't that how old you were when you were staff here? Besides to my knowledge our youngest staff is/ was 15, not sure if he is still even working here either



The game has to make money somehow, and $2.50 on the app store is not going to cover the costs of running the server in addition to making a healthy profit. It's an ios game after all, this isn't some $80 game that has equal balancing.
Even without the 100k guns, you can still be competitive with that price range with 50-60k guns, it just requires more skill on your part which will ultimately make you a better player anyway than the people who just buy the 200k guns and hold shoot.

If you just work for it you can get 50k anyway from doing jobs, awhile back I made a new account and made a basic money making guide which got me about 7k in a few hours, I was only using a neo rifle and ap7s for a total cost of 15k and then a custom head and body for 30k and I was still able to have fun sparring and doing some basing
I'd rather have 50 good, quality players who are great people than 2000 angry 12 year old e-thugs that would rather have a pixelated item on a 2D game than a new acquaintance from another place in the world.

Bram- 01-21-2016 07:47 PM
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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 663253)
I'd rather have 50 good, quality players who are great people than 2000 angry 12 year old e-thugs that would rather have a pixelated item on a 2D game than a new acquaintance from another place in the world.
Why do you care so much tho..
Every thread related to era has something with you or ice talking s*** about the game just why?
Does it make u feel better?

Kane 01-21-2016 07:51 PM
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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 663253)
angry 12 year old e-thugs that would rather have a pixelated item on a 2D game than a new acquaintance from another place in the world.
sounds like someone... hmmmmmm

DarkKnight 01-21-2016 09:26 PM
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Posted by Kane (Post 663256)
sounds like someone... hmmmmmm
Sounds alot like that tool whose account is herb_p2p, forgot his name though.

Howl 01-22-2016 03:37 AM
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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 663253)
I'd rather have 50 good, quality players who are great people than 2000 angry 12 year old e-thugs that would rather have a pixelated item on a 2D game than a new acquaintance from another place in the world
They don't seem like quality players if they're all deciding to quit once you reset the server...

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 663289)
Sounds alot like that tool whose account is herb_p2p, forgot his name though.
???

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 662908)
ur like hitler assuring his country that they're winning the war
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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 662912)
Btw, as mentioned before we recently just passed our max player count
Well then. I rest my case.

KnoCkem 01-22-2016 11:46 AM
Dsr 50 is from black ops 2 rofl

also in 2016 multiplex and countryside should be releasing (im sure about multiplex but im not sure of countryside) 3k players is a pretty good player count in my opinion

DarkKnight 01-22-2016 04:21 PM
First of all, everyone is coming back after the reset.

Second, I'm not even going to waste my time arguing why the iPhone server isn't even comparable to the PC server. There's a reason why it's been around since 2002.

All you iEra nerds care about is playercount. You guys think that having a large playercount makes up for the utterly atrocious content and server as a whole. Like I said, there are honestly only like 5 player that I actually like that type in gramatically correct and legible phrases.

Plus it seems like all you guys are capable of doing is stealing content from us. If you've got so many good, talented developers, why are the majority of graphics from Era?

Howl 01-22-2016 04:37 PM
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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 663465)
Like I said, there are honestly only like 5 player that I actually like that type in gramatically correct and legible phrases.
You just contradicted yourself pretty damn hard.

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Posted by DarkKnight (Post 663465)
Plus it seems like all you guys are capable of doing is stealing content from us. If you've got so many good, talented developers, why are the majority of graphics from Era?
Dunno man, last time I checked, the only thing in common are the old tiles on the gmap. Our team has updated most of the original graphics with better looking ones. Stealing content ≠ using the same tiles that have been around forever. All of our updates are completely different and unassociated with yours. I wonder; does Classic steal content from Unholy Nation for using the same tiles too?

Taru 01-23-2016 12:05 AM
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Posted by Howl (Post 663470)
You just contradicted yourself pretty damn hard.



Dunno man, last time I checked, the only thing in common are the old tiles on the gmap. Our team has updated most of the original graphics with better looking ones. Stealing content ≠ using the same tiles that have been around forever. All of our updates are completely different and unassociated with yours. I wonder; does Classic steal content from Unholy Nation for using the same tiles too?
lol what bruh ? classic was the first server or so lol. and unholy took classic tiles loooooool

imSupah 01-23-2016 02:24 AM
Awesome job deleting my post Colin but keeping the whole other posts with the arguing intact.

GOAT 01-23-2016 08:16 AM
I just want to note that a server can be going "to sh1t/downhill" even with the player base increasing. If you can make sense of that then you will understand where some of these guys are coming from. Don't worry if you can't make sense of that most people can't.

Weeno 01-23-2016 04:28 PM
It's just that era has been developing a lot. Player count helps us know that how much people play the game regardless of their age. Era always has something to update and things are always changing. There's so much staff you can tell a lot of people wanna just help the game. People really enjoy the game people are constantly uploading YouTube videos of graal era, and plus levels are gigantic, everything is connected and the map is big and there's players everywhere and not just at one spot. There's also many ways to get gralats and because there's like 40 shops players usually have something to save up for. Oh boy this is my longest reply ever.

DarkKnight 01-23-2016 05:08 PM
Go back to the classic board colin


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