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Albie 01-04-2016 01:29 PM

New Scoreboards
 
So excited this looks so cool. What do you guys think?

Tenchu 01-04-2016 01:30 PM

New leaderboard
 
Nice update, I think it's cool but if I had to change one thing, I'd have different leaderboards for PC and iDev, but that's just my opinion

Bryan* 01-04-2016 01:32 PM

New Scoreboard System
 
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Categories:

Player Killing - Spar - Baddy Kill - Guild Fort - Guild Spar
Question: Why were All-Time scores removed for (PK, BK, Guild Fort)?


Overall, I like this new system. Pretty unique

Sarah_ 01-04-2016 01:37 PM

Regarding the spar leaderboard, Do the top 3 highest rating or wins get rewarded? I suppose rating but making sure.

Rufus 01-04-2016 01:39 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 655876)
Regarding the spar leaderboard, Do the top 3 highest rating or wins get rewarded? I suppose rating but making sure.

It'll be rating but I can't imagine there being a huge difference between wins and rating in a season.

GraalAholic 01-04-2016 01:44 PM

This new update with removing total scoreboard, disrespects the achievements of top tower guilds and top pkers. It erases an important component to the game which is the preservation of Graal history. Why do that to guilds that worked long and hard to reach the top of scoreboard. You are now feeding the PK boosters and hat chasing disposable guilds. Bring back total scoreboard.

Bryan* 01-04-2016 01:50 PM

Only reason I pk'ed was to be on the scoreboards. I was ranked #24 all time now I am unnoticeable.

Edit: Remove Weekly and add All-Time

Agonee 01-04-2016 01:51 PM

Quote:

Posted by Bryan* (Post 655880)
Only reason I pk'ed was to be on the scoreboards. I was ranked #24 all time now I am unnoticeable.

Same this really ruins everything, All time list was a hugr motivation...

Kuz 01-04-2016 01:53 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 655877)
It'll be rating but I can't imagine there being a huge difference between wins and rating in a season.

Is it still the same rating system from the last leader-board...or is this one more skill based and less activity based.

David M. 01-04-2016 01:55 PM

Great scoreboard, curious what the prizes will be.

Rufus 01-04-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 655882)
Is it still the same rating system from the last leader-board...or is this one more skill based and less activity based.

It hasn't changed as far as I know.

Zideruic 01-04-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 655885)
It hasn't changed as far as I know.

*barfs*

GraalAholic 01-04-2016 01:59 PM

Give us our history back and respect to all time achievements. Add a total scorebard.

Zara 01-04-2016 02:01 PM

Yeah.... I like it but it would be nice to see the all time best in each category.

Sarah_ 01-04-2016 02:03 PM

I was #2 before the leaderboard change with about 20k pts, now I've got 3400 and the players who had less than me have higher pts. How does this work?

Rufus 01-04-2016 02:10 PM

Quote:

Posted by Sarah_ (Post 655891)
I was #2 before the leaderboard change with about 20k pts, now I've got 3400 and the players who had less than me have higher pts. How does this work?

I think the data capturing for this might have started a little after the season (maybe a week) but I'm not sure, fp4 will know.

Kosiris 01-04-2016 02:17 PM

love it, but I have a couple of questions:
• why don't you get punished anymore for losing GS points?
• how are the GST brackets going to be determined with the new leaderboard?

Kuz 01-04-2016 02:27 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kosiris (Post 655897)
love it, but I have a couple of questions:
• why don't you get punished anymore for losing GS points?
• how are the GST brackets going to be determined with the new leaderboard?

Dang GS got changed too? That sucks I actually liked the GS leaderboard system. But yeah...how are brackets determined now? Will it be like 1-->32 etc. in seasonal leaderboard?

Thallen 01-04-2016 02:28 PM

Highly approve, this is much more like what I had originally suggested when I myself asked for a leaderboard change
Not sure how I feel about the GS leaderboard, considering it essentially just encourages you to spam recruit to your tag... which is the opposite of the point of seeding an actual team for the GST

The data capturing definitely started late in the season because I'm way down there and I haven't sparred a lot recently

Rufus 01-04-2016 02:28 PM

I don't think that the guild spar was changed.

Kuz 01-04-2016 02:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 655905)
I don't think that the guild spar was changed.

In leaderboards I see different points for guilds during this season than when I search the guilds up...I'm confused.

Rufus 01-04-2016 02:32 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 655906)
In leaderboards I see different points for guilds during this season than when I search the guilds up...I'm confused.

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 655895)
I think the data capturing for this might have started a little after the season (maybe a week) but I'm not sure, fp4 will know.

Probably this and he forgot to change the profile points value to reflect the new data system.

Thallen 01-04-2016 02:32 PM

It changed, I'd actually like it more this way if there was a way to prevent people from just spam-recruiting on total bull**** tags

Rufus 01-04-2016 02:34 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 655908)
It changed, I'd actually like it more this way if there was a way to prevent people from just spam-recruiting on total bull**** tags

Is it using the same leaderboard style as the single sparring now or something?

Thallen 01-04-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 655910)
Is it using the same leaderboard style as the single sparring now or something?

Yeah

That scoring style can work for singles, but in GS it definitely just encourages people to spam random recruits
But then again, towering has been doing that for the past 6 years...

Kuz 01-04-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 655910)
Is it using the same leaderboard style as the single sparring now or something?

Yeah, which is a shame because GS leaderboard was the only one that was actually good...I don't think it suites the style for the new one...Could we possibly have the GS leaderboard reverted but all the other leaderboards remain the same?

Thallen 01-04-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 655912)
Yeah, which is a shame because GS leaderboard was the only one that was actually good

what a joke LOL
it's the only leaderboard with boosting still prevelant

Rufus 01-04-2016 02:38 PM

Just need to change the way it uses points for that board if necessary.

Kuz 01-04-2016 02:38 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 655913)
what a joke LOL
it's the only leaderboard with boosting still prevelant

If they ever implement the one guild system then it'll pretty much be perfecto.

Thallen 01-04-2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 655915)
If they ever implement the one guild system then it'll pretty much be perfecto.

Ya, if there was a system in place to regulate guild recruiting then honestly either leaderboard would work fine for GSing
I hope some part of the leaderboard reward will be permanent, as it's seasonal and a 3-month trophy item probably won't be a big motivator for many people

James205 01-04-2016 02:53 PM

UI perspective it looks great, easy to navigate. I am curious to how each one works but great job on this. Data capture definitely started late for sparring but oh well

Vic 01-04-2016 02:56 PM

I like it. Nvm where is all time *sigh*

Thallen 01-04-2016 03:00 PM

Alright boys, we need to restore order in the side rooms now that the leaderboard has changed up and rewards are being offered
Good sparrers need to start using them again and queuing freely

99% chance I start sparring in the side rooms to make this a faster and more convenient experience for myself, so if you want 100+ points per win then you can tag along
I'm also open to first-to-100 series in the PC room, the moment you start complaining is when I walk out though

Bryan* 01-04-2016 03:06 PM

I still don't understand why were the All-Time scores were removed off the leaderboards

Agonee 01-04-2016 03:11 PM

Make a huge temple or anything in Graal City to mention top 100 Lists

Rufus 01-04-2016 03:13 PM

Quote:

Posted by Bryan* (Post 655925)
I still don't understand why were the All-Time scores were removed off the leaderboards

We cannot do 'All Time' leaderboards with the new content unless the 'All Time' period starts from today onwards. The old data contributed to a single flat value and cannot be filtered. As we have no intention of running two separate scoreboard systems it's either one or the other, and this is way more competitive. The old data will be displayed somewhere though.

An unsung side effect of the new scoreboards (not ideal, but it works) is that players from foreign countries can now find other players to talk to through filtering the scoreboards. I recommend the PKing board, it's the most accessible.

Thallen 01-04-2016 03:22 PM

Agreed with Rufus, the leaderboards should reflect recent and relevant data to incentivize competition in sparring, PKing, BKing, etc. I don't think the all-time leaderboard really does that. I do agree that all-time lists should be displayed somewhere, just to appreciate those players, but not on a leaderboard.

James205 01-04-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 655927)
We cannot do 'All Time' leaderboards with the new content unless the 'All Time' period starts from today onwards. The old data contributed to a single flat value and cannot be filtered. As we have no intention of running two separate scoreboard systems it's either one or the other, and this is way more competitive. The old data will be displayed somewhere though.

An unsung side effect of the new scoreboards (not ideal, but it works) is that players from foreign countries can now find other players to talk to through filtering the scoreboards. I recommend the PKing board, it's the most accessible.

Wow I just found the filter button, awesome!

edit* This is probably the coolest thing released since I've been back since September. Big kudos

Zorma Knight 01-04-2016 03:36 PM

I dont like the new leaderboards, cause the "All Time" got removed and I always look that everyday :/

Kuz 01-04-2016 03:40 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 655922)
Alright boys, we need to restore order in the side rooms now that the leaderboard has changed up and rewards are being offered
Good sparrers need to start using them again and queuing freely

99% chance I start sparring in the side rooms to make this a faster and more convenient experience for myself, so if you want 100+ points per win then you can tag along
I'm also open to first-to-100 series in the PC room, the moment you start complaining is when I walk out though

Plz if u enter the quick spar room once you'll be branded a selective sparrer for the rest of your iClassic life from half the community :'(

Agonee 01-04-2016 03:43 PM

I'd still like a command that'd tell you what rank you're on the all time leaderboards right now

Striken 01-04-2016 03:44 PM

Quote:

Posted by Kuz (Post 655934)
Plz if u enter the quick spar room once you'll be branded a selective sparrer for the rest of your iClassic life from half the community :'(

Was about to say that but who gives a **** what this community thinks

Vic 01-04-2016 03:45 PM

Quote:

Posted by Agonee (Post 655937)
I'd still like a command that'd tell you what rank you're on the all time leaderboards right now

:agoneestfu jk bb ily

Striken 01-04-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Posted by Agonee (Post 655937)
I'd still like a command that'd tell you what rank you're on the all time leaderboards right now

You weren't that far up unless you still plan on rioting.

Agonee 01-04-2016 03:47 PM

Quote:

Posted by Striken (Post 655940)
You weren't that far up unless you still plan on rioting.

Lmao striken this is a forum, if you wanna lose a roast again pm me pls but don't spam this forum with your useless comments, ty.

Striken 01-04-2016 03:55 PM

Quote:

Posted by Agonee (Post 655941)
Lmao striken this is a forum, if you wanna lose a roast again pm me pls but don't spam this forum with your useless comments, ty.

chuckled

Zetectic 01-04-2016 04:06 PM

OOOOOOOOO GOOD JOB ADMINS; it looks very good

everytime i make the spar leaderboard chart, they change the system....
don't worry bros. i made top 100 sparrer chart for my blog in nov.

MikvaGraal 01-04-2016 04:07 PM

Can someone show a picture of new leaderboards

Striken 01-04-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 655946)
Can someone show a picture of new leaderboards

http://i.imgur.com/aVHuIsc.png
http://i.imgur.com/wQtEzb5.png
http://i.imgur.com/KojjtP2.png
http://i.imgur.com/2OHMYYq.png
http://i.imgur.com/1HGLhch.png
http://i.imgur.com/kpxwVAN.png
http://i.imgur.com/Wb8mbIC.png

contego 01-04-2016 04:14 PM

Nice I like it very clean but 100% pointless if there is still no end of season incentive being announced or being planed.


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