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Jami 01-02-2016 03:05 PM

How to get 300 + PK's in under 30 mins!
 

Areo 01-02-2016 03:56 PM

Yeah, you do that.

Jami 01-02-2016 04:09 PM

????

Agonee 01-02-2016 04:17 PM

So much skills in a video, wow, mosh pit/"Riot" shows real PK skills...

Jami 01-02-2016 04:18 PM

its if you want em quickly this is how!

Xenthic 01-02-2016 04:43 PM

People have been reset for riot boosting in the past lol and this is why PK is gay now.

Definition of PK boosting is quick and easy kills right?

Droid 01-02-2016 05:04 PM

The only reason most of the PK community is salty about it is because this is faster in comparison to spending a few hours at a fort.

Either way, this is achieving kills legitimately, and he isn't boosting the kills excessively or unfairly quickly so this definitely isn't boosting.

Striken 01-02-2016 05:27 PM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 654855)
So much skills in a video, wow, mosh pit/"Riot" shows real PK skills...

Majority of your pks came from riots, hypocrite lol.

Agonee 01-02-2016 06:16 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 654883)
Majority of your pks came from riots, hypocrite lol.

I maybe did 20/30k in a riot out of 158k, Kid don't trash talk if you have no clue.

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Posted by Agonee (Post 654898)
I maybe did 20/30k in a riot out of 158k, Kid don't trash talk if you have no clue.

I hate riots, I'd rather pk MoD all day. I did like 120k PKs when riots weren't allowed.

Striken 01-02-2016 06:19 PM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 654898)
I maybe did 20/30k in a riot out of 158k, Kid don't trash talk if you have no clue.



I hate riots, I'd rather pk MoD all day. I did like 120k PKs when riots weren't allowed.

Doesn't change the fact you have participated in them, does it?

Agonee 01-02-2016 07:17 PM

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Posted by Striken (Post 654900)
Doesn't change the fact you have participated in them, does it?

Still I don't want that riots get supported else you can forget that new PK system.

Striken 01-02-2016 07:37 PM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 654928)
Still I don't want that riots get supported else you can forget that new PK system.

You don't get to choose what exists and what doesn't. People will find ways to make it work, when players wouldn't be visible it was taken to the entrance of mod, it doesn't matter what happens it will always exist so long as people make an effort.

Liz 01-02-2016 08:30 PM

use hax

Darkk 01-02-2016 08:49 PM

Boosting. Anyu should be reset, again

Liz 01-02-2016 08:51 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 654980)
Boosting. Anyu should be reset, again

wut do u mean by again

Mizochi 01-02-2016 11:38 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 654980)
Boosting. Anyu should be reset, again

anyu was never reset

David 01-02-2016 11:57 PM

Can someone educate me on this myth of "PK boosting"?

Is this even a thing?

Bryan* 01-03-2016 12:09 AM

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Posted by David (Post 655107)
Can someone educate me on this myth of "PK boosting"?

Is this even a thing?


PK Boosting is the act of a user speeding up the process of player killing. But the actual offense to get your PK stat reset is if players are letting you kill them over and over again without them killing you. Some girl named Infinity did that in Chris Kill'Em back when it was PK-enabled with addition of noob accounts.

Colin 01-03-2016 12:13 AM

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Posted by David (Post 655107)
Can someone educate me on this myth of "PK boosting"?

Is this even a thing?

No its not.

The "I PK at towers so I'm legit and you're a booster for mob PK'ing" thing is a little flawed because towers are also mobs of players where you just spam your sword and hope you get the kill, might be less people than at huge mobs but it's still the same thing.

It's just a way for people who PK nonstop to make them selves sound better

I mean people can boost as Bryan mentioned above, but 99% of the time someone calls someone a PK booster the person isn't actually boosting.

David 01-03-2016 12:22 AM

Eh. Mob PKing looks like it takes no skill or brain power at all but there's an efficient and an inefficient way of gaining kills that way. I've said this a ton of times before and I still believe it. PKing is a measure of amassing a large quantity of kills, you're allowed to use bombs, arrows and your mount for a tactical advantage. It overall takes less skill to PK than spar (all good sparrers are good PKers but not all good PKers are good sparrers).

Kind of went off on a tangent there, but yea. I don't think PK boosting is actually a thing unless you're killing your same noob acc #2 over and over again which is apparently illegal now anyways.

Comyt 01-03-2016 12:50 AM

we have something similar to this in the sparring community: "selective sparrers" or people who target less skilled players by only queueing against them or sparring in the side rooms. this is not "boosting" but results in a player's sparring win-loss stats to inflate in a way that is in no way reflective of a player's actual skill level in sparring. we can expose these players and everyone will see them as a trashy player with a fake ratio, but this will have no effect on their behavior. they will continue pretending they're actually good, running around through the side rooms continuing this disgusting process.

what this jami noob has demonstrated in this video is not "boosting" but results in a player's pking stats to inflate in a way that is in no way reflective of a player's actual skill level in pking. there is nothing you can do about it. you can give them a reputation as a "mob pking noob" or something to no effect, they will just continue as selective sparrers do.

they are playing the game in their own way of playing it, which happens to take much less skill. if this goes against your pking honor code or whatever, go crazy and insult them as much as you'd like but i don't see it coming to an end anytime soon, and i have no idea how to put an end to this problem.

Liz 01-03-2016 01:13 AM

for spar u could do a thing where u have tiers and can only go up against someone in a similar "skill level" as you (for quick spars)

Wickodd 01-03-2016 01:37 AM

To me, "pk boosting" is killing players specifically to raise your stat. I mean, that's what you're doing, boosting your pk stat up. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, and having a "pk goal" is fine. The thing is, whether you're pking at a tower or in a mob, it's still pk boosting. It's just as Colin said, it's just swinging your sword and hoping to get a kill out of it. When mod's full of people in the flag room, it's basically the same thing as swinging at a mob. Some people have the mindset of doing it in the most efficient way, using pk techniques, but I'm sure there are people using those same techniques at the mobs.

"Pk boosting", aside from the illegal way of pking the same person over and over excessively, is really just a mindset. I'm pretty sure most of the more skilled pkers do it for fun; for sport. They don't do it for the numbers, or so I assume. If people want to boost their pk stat, then why not do the most efficient thing and pick off people from a big mob of people? My pks are just from towering, so I don't really care either way. If people want to stand unmoving in a mob and spam their sword, it'll be extremely boring, but so be it. Just don't complain saying things like, "Hey, he/she has a lot of pks! But wait, he/she pks at mobs, I don't like him/her!" If you want to pk the fun way, then good for you. Other people, who just want to increase their stat, maybe they'll make use of this video.

Anyu got 800,000 pks in 2,000 something hours. It's still an accomplishment, and she didn't cheat or break the rules. If you want a large pk stat like her, then go ahead and pk as she did. If you don't want to do it "that way", then just pk your own way, as long as you're having fun with it.

Darkk 01-03-2016 02:47 AM

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Posted by Mizochi (Post 655101)
anyu was never reset

For boosting with his/her friends at chris kill ems. Yeah he/she was reset

twilit 01-03-2016 03:38 AM

The staffs' definition of "boosting" that will get you reset- killing an alternate account repeatedly, combining accounts (no longer possible), abusing glitches (respawn boost), or otherwise breaking other rules to gain kills. "Crowd/mob/riot pk" is not technically illegal.

However, player density and movementis a thing here... When 20 people are just standing, not moving, bunched into a 4x4 tile square, (and pushed into a corner where knock-back and blink are ineffective), it takes zero brain power to stand in one spot and spam one button over and over. Also, another thing is overworld pk in general has instant respawn with no warp. IMO, crowd pk is comparable to sparring at balamb or angel clan (back when that existed)-- not breaking any rules, but people got easy, quick wins; rest of spar community frowned upon it. Or as Comyt said, it could be compared to selective sparring.

And no, towers don't have "mobs of people where you just spam your sword." Most towers except Deadwood have a nice medium to large sized flag room with a much lower player density. If you have no spar skill or dont move around, youre going to die quickly. Tower PKing is more comparable to guild sparring.

No, not even MoD fort is close to comparable to crowd pk. Ever since MoD's outdoor entrance became a nonpk zone, there has been less than half the traffic as before that change. The only difference between MoD and any other tower is the fact that there are more single PKers than attacking guilds; due to the short respawn distance.

Do I care that it happens? No. However, there's a delusion that being at the top of the daily/weekly/total boards means youre good; which isnt necessarily true. I mean, look at your K/D ratio or somethin. js.

Zetectic 01-03-2016 04:05 AM

agree with comyt +rep
there is a rumor that anyu got reset for pking noobs in chris kill em in the past

@1st page
if u want to have a good stat in short time, do what jami is doing.
u won't get reset.

Mizochi 01-03-2016 07:47 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 655174)
For boosting with his/her friends at chris kill ems. Yeah he/she was reset

Had no idea not too suprised though

Kosiris 01-03-2016 07:15 PM

Sheikha and the infity girl are two different people, the girl that got reset isn't her

GOAT 01-03-2016 09:21 PM

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Posted by Xenthic (Post 654871)
People have been reset for riot boosting in the past lol and this is why PK is gay now.

Definition of PK boosting is quick and easy kills right?

Why did Mickey and Link get reset? Pk has been pretty gay since the leader-board was released(ironic since I was the reason it was introduced :'''[)





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Posted by Comyt (Post 655123)
what this jami noob has demonstrated in this video is not "boosting" but results in a player's pking stats to inflate in a way that is in no way reflective of a player's actual skill level in pking. there is nothing you can do about it. you can give them a reputation as a "mob pking noob" or something to no effect, they will just continue as selective sparrers do.

Stats don't determine skill. Selective sparring was not only an issue with side rooms. I'm pretty sure there are people in the spar community that can vouch that there was a lot 1-3am selective sparring in the streak room. Personally I've never seen someones stats and said damn he has skill. I also never took the word of someone else telling me an individuals skill level. The players that I considered skilled either earned it by proving it against me or me watching them go HAM in spar/pk/or towers.

Sometimes we as players get this delusion that we get to dictate what is consider good or bad based on the fact that we were pkrs/sparers/towerers first and for a long time.



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Posted by twilit (Post 655191)
No, not even MoD fort is close to comparable to crowd pk. Ever since MoD's outdoor entrance became a nonpk zone, there has been less than half the traffic as before that change. The only difference between MoD and any other tower is the fact that there are more single PKers than attacking guilds; due to the short respawn distance.

MoD was the original mob pkng. There was countless of players that got over 100k kills just from mob pkng outside mod. Even the inner level was a mob pk most of the time during peek hours with the only difference being that death would result in a outside warp. I'm pretty sure there was a girl everyone used to complain about at MoD because she would spam the hell out of the noob mobs with her glitched arrows (from CTF) and get insane amount of kills in a short time.

Thallen 01-03-2016 10:06 PM

pls stop saying "skill"

Darkk 01-03-2016 11:36 PM

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Posted by Kosiris (Post 655514)
Sheikha and the infity girl are two different people, the girl that got reset isn't her

Both speak Russian, must just be a coincidence... :rolleyes: you ignorant desert fever kid

twilit 01-04-2016 02:17 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 655571)
MoD was the original mob pkng. There was countless of players that got over 100k kills just from mob pkng outside mod. Even the inner level was a mob pk most of the time during peak hours with the only difference being that death would result in a outside warp.

Yeah, the pk mob outside the fort was insanely annoying for people who used the tower for its intended purpose. So the area eventually became nonpk, and now Mod only sees a fraction of that traffic. Didnt feel like explaining that in the first post.

Kosiris 01-04-2016 03:55 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 655670)
Both speak Russian, must just be a coincidence... :rolleyes: you ignorant desert fever kid

ya no, I can disprove this but then I'd have to lie, but hey lets call everyone a booster to feel better about ourselves!!!

Colin 01-04-2016 04:04 AM

Anytime Anyu was online PK'ing you could see her doing it at MoD

This is just further proof people are extra salty when it comes to others getting faster PKS or doing it more effectively

Striken 01-04-2016 04:10 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 655753)
Anytime Anyu was online PK'ing you could see her doing it at MoD

This is just further proof people are extra salty when it comes to others getting faster PKS or doing it more effectively

Majority of the time yeah, I've seen her at the gate a few times though but I doubt for the whole day.

Zetectic 01-04-2016 04:26 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 655753)
Anytime Anyu was online PK'ing you could see her doing it at MoD

This is just further proof people are extra salty when it comes to others getting faster PKS or doing it more effectively

when she had 100k~200k pk she pk'd in front of the Graal City gate.

Red 01-04-2016 04:29 AM

give up on utube lol

Riku* 01-04-2016 04:32 AM

That makes more sense

Colin 01-04-2016 05:41 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 655761)
when she had 100k~200k pk she pk'd in front of the Graal City gate.

Still not boosting

Even if she was using really fast and considered "poor" methods by the community, 800k is still an accomplishment

There is no skill in any form of PK'ING, even at towers you are all just randomly attacking one another and praying for last hit

Areo 01-04-2016 07:34 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 655789)
There is no skill in any form of PK'ING

You know, I'm getting pretty tired of people saying that. Did you pk when you were a noob? Have you pked since then? Gotten any better? Congrats, you gained skill. Skill is defined as "the ability to do something well". Well, if you use that definition, pk requires skill. But that is kinda a lame argument, right? So no, I won't stop at that.

If I put it in terms of spar, how come most good pkers can spar well? There's no skill in it, it shouldn't be possible then. Besides, there is also skill about knowing where to go, the best ways to avoid and hit people. If that's not skill, I don't know what is.

Also, towers are not just mobs of players. Go to deadwood. Tell me that's just a mob of players swinging there swords at each other. Often towers are defended by having players on the stairs or something similar. That's not mob like.


This whole argument currently is just everyone reiterating what they have already said in other threads and/or in game.

Striken 01-04-2016 09:22 PM

Knowledge = skill

Wickodd 01-04-2016 10:20 PM

I said I didn't care about the pk mobs before, but it's lame that people who come online and jump in a mob for ten hours are the ones who are probably going to be end up top 3 in the seasonal rankings. Also I agree with Areo, there is skill to pking effectively. Guys like Michael and Areo, who know what they're doing, are always the ones who come up and dominate the flagroom at MoD, not the ones who come up and start swinging around wildly. Then again, someone who pks at mobs are probably going to get more kills anyways.

GOAT 01-04-2016 10:23 PM

Man this style of pk is sure looking like the style of choice for these new end of season rewards.

Couple things:
1. If you see any of the mob pkng "haters" in mobs trying to get the end season awards make sure to take a screen shot and posted.

2. The riot pkng community needs a riot kik chat like the blob used to have.

3. Spread the word my noobians #RiotAtTheBridgeAllDayEveryDay

Let the chaos begin

Droid 01-04-2016 10:59 PM

Rip graal city mosh pits

Zetectic 01-04-2016 11:05 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 655789)
Still not boosting

Even if she was using really fast and considered "poor" methods by the community, 800k is still an accomplishment

There is no skill in any form of PK'ING, even at towers you are all just randomly attacking one another and praying for last hit

never ever said she boosted lol
i know 800k is not easy no matter how u do it lol


it's funny like 98% of people who has over 100k+pk got at least 20k+ of their pk is from these pk fest.
just like sparrers who sparred in side rooms til 10k, then spar in streak for 1k and bash on side rooms + act like they were never there once xp

Droid 01-04-2016 11:06 PM

Why the sudden removal of the PK zone south of Graal city?

Zetectic 01-04-2016 11:12 PM

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Posted by Droid (Post 656199)
Why the sudden removal of the PK zone south of Graal city?

just guessing but
bc of constant pk mobs getting formed in that area. they had remove it so people can go through without getting disturbed.

Buffalo 01-04-2016 11:19 PM

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Posted by Elizabeth (Post 654984)
wut do u mean by again

shes's been reset before

GOAT 01-04-2016 11:29 PM

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Posted by Droid (Post 656199)
Why the sudden removal of the PK zone south of Graal city?

That's their strategy to create more "competition" at towers. Remove pk areas from the overworld and move it to the towers. AC pond pk area is the next one to be converted into a noob friendly safe zone.

Thallen 01-05-2016 04:44 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 656221)
That's their strategy to create more "competition" at towers.

can almost guarantee this isn't why they did it because I know some of the higher-ranking staff hate the fact that the entire map can't be open for PK
I'm sure it's just because the new leaderboard hype created a huge mob that was disturbing new players so it's been temporarily disabled


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