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Buzz 12-27-2015 10:26 PM

It's time to nerf staffs.
 
Maybe about half the game has GP/HS staffs and it needs a nerf.

Eugeen 12-27-2015 10:37 PM

How are you going to nerf something that's supposed to be special but wouldn't be anymore if nerfed as there are tradeable melees just as good?

Simple! Buff everything else!

#100HpAndGunBuffs

Buzz 12-27-2015 11:39 PM

#100HpAndGunBuffs

Advent 12-28-2015 12:00 AM

#100HpAndGunBuffsPleaseAlsoMiningAndWoodcuttingBuf fsToo

GraalEtho 12-28-2015 12:22 AM

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Posted by adventure923 (Post 651959)
#100HpAndGunBuffsPleaseAlsoMiningAndWoodcuttingBuf fsToo

^^^^^^^^

iBreezy 12-28-2015 12:31 AM

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Posted by Buzz (Post 651878)
Maybe about 3/4 of the game have GP staffs and it needs a nerf.

Fixed your post.

Messiah 12-28-2015 01:47 AM

Or maybe just GP staffs because less people have HS staffs then GP

Eugeen 12-28-2015 03:48 AM

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Posted by Messiah (Post 652034)
Or maybe just GP staffs because less people have HS staffs then GP

No way to nerf gp staff without making them a waste of time as there are tradeable melees with just 0.1 speed less or 1 damage less

FearRrr 01-02-2016 07:22 PM

I see it should go:
Gang Point Staffs:7Dmg
Hs Staffs (45hs & Below):8Dmg
Hs Staffs (55hs & Higher):9Dmg

TomatoPanda 01-02-2016 07:38 PM

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Posted by FearRrr (Post 654933)
I see it should go:
Gang Point Staffs:7Dmg
Hs Staffs (45hs & Below):8Dmg
Hs Staffs (55hs & Higher):9Dmg

I can get 45 hs in a month if I tryed u hs people excuse is "hs isn't always available" when about 30+ events are hosted a day GP points may be always available but 333 hrs of basing is harder then you think. (Even tho I think gp staffs should go up to 30k gp)

Anyway if one staff gets nerfed all should but an easier solution is just to bring back the
#100HpAndGunBuffs
Which staff won't ever add it back cause most of them not all but most are to dumb to understand its needed

KnoCkem 01-02-2016 07:53 PM

HS staffs are not being nerfed, there the hardest currency to earn in the game, if anything buffed.

Gp staffs should be 7 damage and a bit faster in speed, just a bit
GP staffs are basically free, if you have no life or you can afk all day(mostly no life 45 year olds that play all day) you basically get a free staff the same amount of skill as an HS staff that takes 45, 55 or 60 HS? that is just unfair.
the only option is
#BringBackIncreasedDamageAndHealth (keep gp staffs the same tho) NERF GP STAFFS FTW

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 654940)
I can get 45 hs in a month if I tryed u hs people excuse is "hs isn't always available" when about 30+ events are hosted a day GP points may be always available but 333 hrs of basing is harder then you think. (Even tho I think gp staffs should go up to 30k gp)

Anyway if one staff gets nerfed all should but an easier solution is just to bring back the
#100HpAndGunBuffs
Which staff won't ever add it back cause most of them not all but most are to dumb to understand its needed

nonono keep HS staffs same and gp staffs 7

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 654940)
I can get 45 hs in a month if I tryed u hs people excuse is "hs isn't always available" when about 30+ events are hosted a day GP points may be always available but 333 hrs of basing is harder then you think. (Even tho I think gp staffs should go up to 30k gp)

Anyway if one staff gets nerfed all should but an easier solution is just to bring back the
#100HpAndGunBuffs
Which staff won't ever add it back cause most of them not all but most are to dumb to understand its needed

you cant get 45 hs in a month "if you tried" psh

Eugeen 01-02-2016 07:53 PM

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Posted by KnoCkem (Post 654944)
HS staffs are not being nerfed, there the hardest currency to earn in the game, if anything buffed.

Gp staffs should be 7 damage and a bit faster in speed, just a bit
GP staffs are basically free, if you have no life or you can afk all day(mostly no life 45 year olds that play all day) you basically get a free staff the same amount of skill as an HS staff that takes 45, 55 or 60 HS? that is just unfair.
the only option is
#BringBackIncreasedDamageAndHealth (keep gp staffs the same tho) NERF GP STAFFS FTW



nonono keep HS staffs same and gp staffs 7

How are horseshoes not free? lol

KnoCkem 01-02-2016 07:58 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 654945)
How are horseshoes not free? lol

HS you have to be good or participate and maybe win chance, anyone can get gp just every minute for free, hs takes work..

Eugeen 01-02-2016 08:12 PM

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Posted by KnoCkem (Post 654948)
HS you have to be good or participate and maybe win chance, anyone can get gp just every minute for free, hs takes work..

It takes the same amount of work and with some luck hs are way faster to earn aswell, I got a hs bow in 2 weeks and the gp staff took me a month

KnoCkem 01-02-2016 08:37 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 654950)
It takes the same amount of work and with some luck hs are way faster to earn aswell, I got a hs bow in 2 weeks and the gp staff took me a month

if we had a poll of which is harder to earn, you would be the only one to choose gp

Vulcan Blaze 01-02-2016 08:49 PM

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Posted by KnoCkem (Post 654966)
if we had a poll of which is harder to earn, you would be the only one to choose gp

Wrong

KnoCkem 01-02-2016 08:53 PM

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Posted by Vulcan Blaze (Post 654982)
Wrong

You guys just like gp more because there easier and they make you look pro so it makes you feel important (not directing it at anyone) but if gp staffs were never a thing, there would never have been this problem

Eugeen 01-02-2016 09:04 PM

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Posted by KnoCkem (Post 654966)
if we had a poll of which is harder to earn, you would be the only one to choose gp

Just because people are not willing to go through the frustration of not winning every event doesn't make it harder to earn.

KnoCkem 01-02-2016 09:07 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 654996)
Just because people are not willing to go through the frustration of not winning every event doesn't make it harder to earn.

k think what you want, but Hs will always be harder than gp to earn, back on topic (and u have to move around for hs) afk for gp all day (lazy)

Messiah 01-02-2016 09:13 PM

HS and GP staffs are to futuristic please remove or change like you guys did to murks

Jent 01-03-2016 01:30 AM

Umm guys. Why not just leave them how it is. Everyone on Era has a dumb healing staff and they don't go crazy nerfing it

Messiah 01-03-2016 02:45 AM

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Posted by Jent (Post 655141)
Umm guys. Why not just leave them how it is. Everyone on Era has a dumb healing staff and they don't go crazy nerfing it

Cause they aren't that op....

Jent 01-03-2016 02:58 AM

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Posted by Messiah (Post 655173)
Cause they aren't that op....

Yet everyone uses them.

Messiah 01-03-2016 05:11 AM

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Posted by Jent (Post 655178)
Yet everyone uses them.

Yeah cause u don't have to waist food

iBreezy 01-03-2016 05:44 AM

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Posted by Vulcan Blaze (Post 654982)
Wrong

Then how come there are more GP Staffs, even after the horseshoe shop was available for a really long time before Gang Point staffs.

Buzz 01-03-2016 05:51 AM

Remove all staffs they're over rated anyways

TomatoPanda 01-03-2016 06:09 AM

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Posted by Buzz (Post 655276)
Remove all staffs they're over rated anyways

Refund everyone's gp staffs and hs staffs and make it 10 more hs for the items and make gp staff 30k gp

Saint Revla 01-03-2016 09:50 AM

Just Nerf It.

It's annoying how every scrub runs around using their gp staff or hs staff and run again to heal. I don't recall bringing a staff to a gun fight, oh well. Thought Ol West theme was mostely known for cowboys and guns. Not cowboys and skill-less staffs.

Jent 01-03-2016 02:12 PM

I still think going steampunk will make the server more flexible. Faster guns could be released and we could have robotic cowboys

KnoCkem 01-03-2016 03:17 PM

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Posted by Jent (Post 655362)
I still think going steampunk will make the server more flexible. Faster guns could be released and we could have robotic cowboys

They have never said anything about going steampunk yet, but we can hope

Messiah 01-03-2016 03:21 PM

Well all of your ideas you guys are giving out HW is going to say no cause she doesn't like listening to our ideas, her ideas only guys :)

JayZ 01-03-2016 04:47 PM

Tomato, firstly. You said you could win 45 hs in a month, I'd be willing to bet my account and anarchy, that you could not.

Secondly, I'll bet you my soul that there will never be 33 events hosted in a day, and even if this was true you think you'd win a majority of these? No. Factor in all the chances, trivias tts's races you don't like etc. fact is, people are good at some races and bad at others. Or good at some events and bad at others.




Ok now, let's take into account how many people go to every event they can and don't improve. Lots right!

How many people go to events and improve? A minority.



How long has GP been out for? Several months.

How long has HS been out for? Almost since games release.

How many gp staffs are there? Lots.
How many hs staffs are there? A minority.

Ok so theoretically winning one HS (1/45th of A Staff) Is the equivalent of gaining 444.4 GP. (1/45th of 20000)

How many people are able to win one Hs A day? Not a lot
How many people win one hs a day? Not a lot

How many people can get 444.4 GP A Day? Everyone can if they play for long enough.
How many people do this? Quite a few.




In conclusion, HS staffs are clearly much harder to earn than GP Staffs.

Jent 01-03-2016 05:08 PM

Recently saw a noob with GP staff. This shouldn't be possible. Nerf staffs

JayZ 01-03-2016 05:25 PM

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Saint Revla 01-03-2016 06:06 PM

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Posted by Jent (Post 655415)
Recently saw a noob with GP staff. This shouldn't be possible. Nerf staffs

lol, 90% with a gp staff sucks tbh.
Easy to flaw ask Jay he can confirm that.

Nerf it already. Soon Ol West is full with gp staffs...Only hs staffs are stronger but they are harder to earn instead of afking or nolifing all day.

TomatoPanda 01-03-2016 07:18 PM

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Posted by JayZ (Post 655401)
Tomato, firstly. You said you could win 45 hs in a month, I'd be willing to bet my account and anarchy, that you could not.

Secondly, I'll bet you my soul that there will never be 33 events hosted in a day, and even if this was true you think you'd win a majority of these? No. Factor in all the chances, trivias tts's races you don't like etc. fact is, people are good at some races and bad at others. Or good at some events and bad at others.




Ok now, let's take into account how many people go to every event they can and don't improve. Lots right!

How many people go to events and improve? A minority.



How long has GP been out for? Several months.

How long has HS been out for? Almost since games release.

How many gp staffs are there? Lots.
How many hs staffs are there? A minority.

Ok so theoretically winning one HS (1/45th of A Staff) Is the equivalent of gaining 444.4 GP. (1/45th of 20000)

How many people are able to win one Hs A day? Not a lot
How many people win one hs a day? Not a lot

How many people can get 444.4 GP A Day? Everyone can if they play for long enough.
How many people do this? Quite a few.




In conclusion, HS staffs are clearly much harder to earn than GP Staffs.

Gg you win but you know dam well the staff team won't nerf one staff or not the other r theyll lose half their players sadly which is why the 100 health update is only option rn

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Posted by Saint Revla (Post 655341)
Just Nerf It.

It's annoying how every scrub runs around using their gp staff or hs staff andrun again to heal.I don't recall bringing a staff to a gun fight, oh well. Thought Ol West theme was mostely known for cowboys and guns. Not cowboys and skill-less staffs.

Hence why I made a thread a couple months ago about no food in bases but nope apparently it was stupid.

SammyPs 01-03-2016 07:25 PM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 655515)
Gg you win but you know dam well the staff team won't nerf one staff or not the other r theyll lose half their players sadly which is why the 100 health update is only option rn



Hence why I made a thread a couple months ago about no food in bases but nope apparently it was stupid.

Food has and will always be available in bases.

TomatoPanda 01-03-2016 07:30 PM

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Posted by SammyPs (Post 655521)
Food has and will always be available in bases.

Why so people can run away and eat it when you get them to 15- health its stupid allowing food in bases and brakes basing

Buzz 01-03-2016 08:51 PM

#100HealthAndBuffGuns

TomatoPanda 01-03-2016 08:55 PM

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Posted by Buzz (Post 655558)
#100HealthAndBuffGuns

#100HealthAndBuffGuns

Smity 01-04-2016 04:50 AM

#100HealthAndBuffGuns

Belak 01-04-2016 05:03 AM

Why Cant You See It
 
Obviously everything think else should be deleted and fishing should be only thing on graal... Should just be a giant lake. #GraalOlFishing....

Just think about it be no problems about staffs or anything....

Saint Revla 01-04-2016 09:31 AM

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Posted by Belak (Post 655780)
Obviously everything think else should be deleted and fishing should be only thing on graal... Should just be a giant lake. #GraalOlFishing....

Just think about it be no problems about staffs or anything....

You High?

TomatoPanda 01-05-2016 06:16 AM

Quote:

Posted by Belak (Post 655780)
Obviously everything think else should be deleted and fishing should be only thing on graal... Should just be a giant lake. #GraalOlFishing....

Just think about it be no problems about staffs or anything....

Best update this server would ever have

DarkLord 01-05-2016 11:32 AM

Has anyone not seen how easy it is to flaw a staff with a gun even before the 100 health and buffs update? They are vulnerable at distance... And btw HS staff is easier to get, cause I have a life, and I can manage to win 2 SSB's a day...

Saint Revla 01-05-2016 01:18 PM

True, but they always chicken out and heal then come back. And the Ol West guns have a slow firerate plus high/-moderate freeze rate. Those variables make it impossible to Knock Them Down.

DarkLord 01-05-2016 11:43 PM

Well if they run away that means they can't attack the flag... So common sense would tell you even if they run that atleast means they can't attack flag so it's a win-win

Jent 01-06-2016 02:05 AM

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Posted by Saint Revla (Post 656517)
True, but they always chicken out and heal then come back. And the Ol West guns have a slow firerate plus high/-moderate freeze rate. Those variables make it impossible to Knock Them Down.

Part of the game so stop crying. I've based enough to see that pkers pk at bases with players that like to afk. Keep your members awake next time


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