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Jent 11-14-2015 09:09 PM

Why Isis do what they do?
 
I blame it on religion.

Skyzer 11-14-2015 09:25 PM

No ****.

Dread 11-14-2015 09:35 PM

It has nothing to do with religion. Crazy people will do crazy things regardless of what religion they are.

Vendetta 11-14-2015 09:38 PM

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Posted by Jent (Post 633147)
I blame it on religion.

If one American does something stupid and says it's for their country you wouldn't go and blame it on all of America. In the same way just because a select few "religious" people think it's ok to kill innocent people doesn't mean you should just blame it on religion.

CM 11-14-2015 09:40 PM

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Posted by Dread (Post 633151)
It has nothing to do with religion. Crazy people will do crazy things regardless of what religion they are.

Actually, it does. What they're doing is grabbing any weapon they can find and slapping the word "Islam" on it and then doing all of these bad things.

I like to think that they're going back in time to when religion was much crueler than it is today.

DADA 11-14-2015 09:40 PM

Culmination of different things, this is a group of people...

But yeah isn't one of the Isis idealogies is that they hate consumerism??

Crono 11-14-2015 09:40 PM

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Posted by Dread (Post 633151)
It has nothing to do with religion. Crazy people will do crazy things regardless of what religion they are.

actually what they are doing literally has everything to do with religion

Vicipower 11-14-2015 09:45 PM

it's just extremists (terrorists) using Religion as an excuse for what they do imo..

Eugeen 11-14-2015 09:48 PM

They think they fight for the islam yet the quran doesn't approve of any of their actions.
They are brainwashed people who think they're doing good for what they supposedly believe in

Skt A. Sangue 11-14-2015 10:11 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 633154)
If one American does something stupid and says it's for their country you wouldn't go and blame it on all of America. In the same way just because a select few "religious" people think it's ok to kill innocent people doesn't mean you should just blame it on religion.

Well that's because America has an army.

The only religion with an Army is the Roman Catholic Church... That's why nobody makes Catholic jokes. Like didn't jew know that's the reason?



To answer the question is not about religion. Not entirely. I can get a burrito and say that's its for my rebellion against all religion because for me to be part of my own religion(join my cult k) I need to be alive. Doesn't mean it's because I'm anti religious...

It's primarily because of how they're beliefs dislike the current changes happening in the world. In order to make peace with this, they attempt to rid certain things as they are incapable of acceptance.

It's not as much religious as it is fear.

They're doing the same thing Hitler did, acting upon fear, grouping around pathos.

CM 11-14-2015 10:12 PM

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Posted by Skt A. Sangue (Post 633171)
Well that's because America has an army.

The only religion with an Army is the Roman Catholic Church... That's why nobody makes Catholic jokes. Like didn't jew know that's the reason?

what

5hift 11-14-2015 10:21 PM

I blame it on mentally unstable people who claim they speak for religion when reality, what they say has literally nothing to do with their religion and contradicts it in multiple ways.

They then rally people together using hate-speech and the promise of power and religious righteousness so they can manipulate people into doing absolutely horrible things.

But if I remember correctly, ISIS's main goal was to establish their own extreme-Muslim nation between Syria and some other country where they can practice super serious Muslim tradition.

Of course, many people in the Middle East are becoming more progressive and are straying from the old tradition where men's roles are pretty much omnipotent and women are just maids and baby-makers.

Because of this, ISIS's only option is to force their tradition on those they "conquer" weather they like it or not.

Anyone who defy them is imprisoned or worse.

Skyzer 11-14-2015 10:25 PM

Race, religion, political ideology... Humans are bred to hate what is different from themselves.

Thallen 11-14-2015 10:26 PM

it does have to do with religion, they are manipulating people's faith and abusing the pathetic power that religion has over people to convince them to do things in the name of their religion
I feel sorry for anyone primitive and ******ed enough to believe they will be met with 72 ******s if they strap a bomb to their ass and run into a building

5hift 11-14-2015 10:27 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 633179)
it does have to do with religion, they are manipulating people's faith and abusing the pathetic power that religion has over people to convince them to do things in the name of their religion
I feel sorry for anyone primitive and ******ed enough to believe they will be met with 72 ******s if they strap a bomb to their ass and run into a building

This pretty much.

DADA 11-14-2015 10:51 PM

Christians join and kill with the U.S. Military under the same pathology.

Colin 11-14-2015 10:54 PM

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Posted by DADA (Post 633189)
Christians join and kill with the U.S. Military under the same pathology.

????

Or because they know what is happening is inhumane and needs to be stopped and they want to protect their own country??????????????????????????????

DADA 11-14-2015 11:01 PM

No the U.S. Has killed more civilians than "enemies" since I have been alive. 1991

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Posted by DADA (Post 633195)
No the U.S. Has killed more civilians than "enemies" since I have been alive. 1991

2013 174k deaths 39k were combatants. Now add more and mor drone strikes.

Thallen 11-14-2015 11:02 PM

There have been cases of extremism and violence in every major religion, even Buddhism, but there's one religion that really raises the bar when it comes to murdering for their faith. The world, and everyone who follows that religion, would be better without it.

I haven't read the Quran, but I don't believe it mentions killing everyone who opposes or even threatens you or your faith.
That still doesn't say to me that religion isn't responsible.

There have never been vanilla "murder groups" or anything like that (except in military cases, and even then the conflict is usually created by religion). I can't think of any organized groups of people who come together to kill hundreds of others without any extreme belief motivating it.
It's always a "terrorist group", "religious group", etc. Even in cults and smaller incidents like in the Charles Manson case, that involved religious or spiritual beliefs. Religion, and extreme belief in general, is poisonous because it can convince people that they were created by someone to do something, when they weren't.

Not every mass murder is religiously motivated, but these uncivilized and uneducated third worlds are so much more susceptible to being manipulated into doing **** in the name of their religion. I feel like there is never going to be an end to "the war against terrorism" until religions that are prominent in the third world are completely extinct. Then hopefully all religion can go away, at least by my preference.

MrSimons 11-14-2015 11:06 PM

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Posted by DADA (Post 633189)
Christians join and kill with the U.S. Military under the same pathology.

Yea, muslims, catholics, and atheists also join the US Military. The difference is most people do not join the military because they want to kill people, or even kill people.

DADA 11-14-2015 11:07 PM

For half the King James bible God is ordering genocide of the wicked xD

Sardon 11-15-2015 01:22 AM

I blame the athiests

The Memebers of isis are vigilants
I don't care for the reason for their actions I want them to be bombed and for liberland to take over the world

Skyzer 11-15-2015 01:37 AM

Dank

Mangsi 11-15-2015 01:41 AM

What happens when ISIS comes to the US?

5hift 11-15-2015 01:47 AM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 633255)
What happens when ISIS comes to the US?

The same thing that happened in Paris may happen here, unfortunately.

I hate to say it, but if it does come to this that gives us more reason to actively fight them.

DADA 11-15-2015 02:14 AM

Martial law happens and if your brown there will be chance you'd will be murdered kidnapped or tortured.

Dread 11-15-2015 04:40 AM

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Posted by Dread (Post 633151)
It has nothing to do with religion. Crazy people will do crazy things regardless of what religion they are.

ya sorry i meant to say regardless of religion crazy people will do crazy things. :shy:

MBK 11-15-2015 06:12 AM

I'll say wat i said in the other thread.War is a business and many 1st world countries are earning more than you think from it.They get those modern weapons supplied from somewhere.They are probably as trained as any countries army or porbably more.

Remember that cartoon thing the french did a few months(or a year) back and then the French army doing **** in Gaza...i think that's the reason why Paris was targeted.Who knows maybe UK or USA is next.

*stan 11-16-2015 12:46 AM

Fk isis fk islam fk arabs

SouthernZombie* 11-16-2015 01:23 AM

Fk anyone who feels the need to kill innocent people.

Conquest 11-16-2015 01:50 AM

I'll go out on a limb and say I've spoke with Archangel Gabriel; not only is God real, but a lot of what is mentioned in Islamic texts about Gabriel / the Holy Spirit is not only true—but right now we are in the end of the Age of Pisces. The astrological ages last about 2150 years.

See, Krishna was the Protector of Bulls/Bull of Heaven (Hinduism who worships the cow) at the end of the Age of Taurus; Jesus was the "Passover Lamb", or Shepherd/Lamb of God at the end of the Age of Aries (the ram/lamb); then he became the Fisher of Men/Ichthys entering the Age of Pisces (Pisces is fish). We are coming up on the Age of Aquarius, which is the "end times"/"end of the age", which means that the new Lord is the Cupbearer of Men/Holy Graal.

What you are witnessing is the unfolding of the apocalypse; unfortunately, for those of you who think it's a joke—it isn't a joke. Judaism has blackmailed Islam to expand Israeli territory, and then an ethnic slandering holocaust against Muslims to see to it that it happens.

Dread 11-16-2015 01:53 AM

We must collect all 4 graals and make it to the midas realm before we are all doomed!!

SouthernZombie* 11-16-2015 01:53 AM

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Posted by Unisus (Post 633556)
I'll go out on a limb and say I've spoke with Archangel Gabriel; not only is God real, but a lot of what is mentioned in Islamic texts about Gabriel / the Holy Spirit is not only true—but right now we are in the end of the Age of Pisces. The astrological ages last about 2150 years.

See, Krishna was the Protector of Bulls/Bull of Heaven (Hinduism who worships the cow) at the end of the Age of Taurus; Jesus was the "Passover Lamb", or Shepherd/Lamb of God at the end of the Age of Aries (the ram/lamb); then he became the Fisher of Men/Ichthys entering the Age of Pisces (Pisces is fish). We are coming up on the Age of Aquarius, which is the "end times"/"end of the age", which means that the new Lord is the Cupbearer of Men/Holy Graal.

What you are witnessing is the unfolding of the apocalypse; unfortunately, for those of you who think it's a joke—it isn't a joke. Judaism has blackmailed Islam to expand Israeli territory, and then an ethnic slandering holocaust against Muslims to see to it that it happens.

Wat

Skyzer 11-16-2015 01:56 AM

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Posted by Unisus (Post 633556)
I'll go out on a limb and say I've spoke with Archangel Gabriel; not only is God real, but a lot of what is mentioned in Islamic texts about Gabriel / the Holy Spirit is not only true—but right now we are in the end of the Age of Pisces. The astrological ages last about 2150 years.

See, Krishna was the Protector of Bulls/Bull of Heaven (Hinduism who worships the cow) at the end of the Age of Taurus; Jesus was the "Passover Lamb", or Shepherd/Lamb of God at the end of the Age of Aries (the ram/lamb); then he became the Fisher of Men/Ichthys entering the Age of Pisces (Pisces is fish). We are coming up on the Age of Aquarius, which is the "end times"/"end of the age", which means that the new Lord is the Cupbearer of Men/Holy Graal.

What you are witnessing is the unfolding of the apocalypse; unfortunately, for those of you who think it's a joke—it isn't a joke. Judaism has blackmailed Islam to expand Israeli territory, and then an ethnic slandering holocaust against Muslims to see to it that it happens.

dank dank kush puff puff

Xenthic 11-16-2015 02:14 AM

don't forget guys Islam is the religion of peace!

I wouldn't be surprised if there's gonna be another attack soon in Germany or the UK. Europe will eventually become an Islamic continent, on average Muslim families are having more children in order to have a bigger Muslim population so they can choose and out vote who comes into power and if a leader wants votes they will have to please the majority in some way therefore a Muslim leader will be chosen and it's all a plan to overthrow and implement sharia law and it's all gonna happen. Already in parts of London are no go zones for British people since the area is predominantly muslim.

There's already tons of Quran verses that say you can kill any non Muslim and you're allowed to lie as long as it benefits Islam in some way.

Pimpsy G. 11-16-2015 02:20 AM

They basically want to bring about the end times by kick starting a war with the west, which will fulfill the 'prophecy'

Here's an interesting read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...-wants/384980/

Shmegg 11-16-2015 02:25 AM

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Posted by Unisus (Post 633556)
I'll go out on a limb and say I've spoke with Archangel Gabriel; not only is God real, but a lot of what is mentioned in Islamic texts about Gabriel / the Holy Spirit is not only true—but right now we are in the end of the Age of Pisces. The astrological ages last about 2150 years.

See, Krishna was the Protector of Bulls/Bull of Heaven (Hinduism who worships the cow) at the end of the Age of Taurus; Jesus was the "Passover Lamb", or Shepherd/Lamb of God at the end of the Age of Aries (the ram/lamb); then he became the Fisher of Men/Ichthys entering the Age of Pisces (Pisces is fish). We are coming up on the Age of Aquarius, which is the "end times"/"end of the age", which means that the new Lord is the Cupbearer of Men/Holy Graal.

What you are witnessing is the unfolding of the apocalypse; unfortunately, for those of you who think it's a joke—it isn't a joke. Judaism has blackmailed Islam to expand Israeli territory, and then an ethnic slandering holocaust against Muslims to see to it that it happens.

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Jent 11-16-2015 03:22 AM

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Posted by Xenthic (Post 633560)
don't forget guys Islam is the religion of peace!

I wouldn't be surprised if there's gonna be another attack soon in Germany or the UK. Europe will eventually become an Islamic continent, on average Muslim families are having more children in order to have a bigger Muslim population so they can choose and out vote who comes into power and if a leader wants votes they will have to please the majority in some way therefore a Muslim leader will be chosen and it's all a plan to overthrow and implement sharia law and it's all gonna happen. Already in parts of London are no go zones for British people since the area is predominantly muslim.

There's already tons of Quran verses that say you can kill any non Muslim and you're allowed to lie as long as it benefits Islam in some way.

It's sickening knowing they're capable to do all this.

Conquest 11-16-2015 03:42 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 633564)

Hehehe-yaaaw! A cute black guy playing sex with his eyes! Ooch! *grabs the arrow in his chest* Go suck a big fat black ****, 'cause I don't care!

It's called the axial precession; look it up, sweetheart! Those superficial models aren't gonna save your body.

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The constant term of this speed (5,028.796195 arcseconds per century in above equation) corresponds to one full precession circle in 25,771.57534 years (one full circle of 360 degrees divided with 5,028.796195 arcseconds per century)[25] although some other sources put the value at 25771.4 years, leaving a small uncertainty.
Divide 25,771 by 12, the number of the zodiac surrounding the solar system. Wadda ya get?

2,147 years

You can't stop the apocalypse from happening anymore than you can rewrite history—or change the composition of the stars. Just sit back and watch it happen

Mangsi 11-16-2015 03:52 AM

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Posted by Unisus (Post 633573)
Hehehe-yaaaw! A cute black guy playing sex with his eyes! Ooch! *grabs the arrow in his chest* Go suck a big fat black ****, 'cause I don't care!

It's called the axial precession; look it up, sweetheart! Those superficial models aren't gonna save your body.



Divide 25,771 by 12, the number of the zodiac surrounding the solar system. Wadda ya get?

2,147 years

You can't stop the apocalypse from happening anymore than you can rewrite history—or change the composition of the stars. Just sit back and watch it happen

Um uh okay, uhmm..

kenthefruit 11-16-2015 04:02 AM

Quote:

Posted by Unisus (Post 633573)
Hehehe-yaaaw! A cute black guy playing sex with his eyes! Ooch! *grabs the arrow in his chest* Go suck a big fat black ****, 'cause I don't care!

It's called the axial precession; look it up, sweetheart! Those superficial models aren't gonna save your body.



Divide 25,771 by 12, the number of the zodiac surrounding the solar system. Wadda ya get?

2,147 years

You can't stop the apocalypse from happening anymore than you can rewrite history—or change the composition of the stars. Just sit back and watch it happen

what is wrong w u

Conquest 11-16-2015 04:35 AM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 633563)
They basically want to bring about the end times by kick starting a war with the west, which will fulfill the 'prophecy'

Here's an interesting read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...-wants/384980/

All prophecies are self-fulfilling; see, just as your individual consciousness is the product of a loving dance of trillions of cells working together to create you—so too does nature create larger sentient superorganisms through the loving bonds of creatures. And, as you see in an ant colony … There is always a queen, and it's every ant's job to serve his colony. The Lord returns; it is hysterical how people so quickly decide for themselves that they know everything—then lose faith.

Our species is a superconscious superorganism. She is the fiery/watery dance of the spiritual movement between humans (creature-molecules). She doesn't always intervene, because mankind needs time to work & evolve no different than there must be busy bees in a colony. But, Her will be done—and it is always through the movement of the cells in Her body: How else would it happen?

SouthernZombie* 11-16-2015 04:37 AM

Oh m god

Skyzer 11-16-2015 08:02 AM

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Posted by Unisus (Post 633583)
All prophecies are self-fulfilling; see, just as your individual consciousness is the product of a loving dance of trillions of cells working together to create you—so too does nature create larger sentient superorganisms through the loving bonds of creatures. And, as you see in an ant colony … There is always a queen, and it's every ant's job to serve his colony. The Lord returns; it is hysterical how people so quickly decide for themselves that they know everything—then lose faith.

Our species is a superconscious superorganism. She is the fiery/watery dance of the spiritual movement between humans (creature-molecules). She doesn't always intervene, because mankind needs time to work & evolve no different than there must be busy bees in a colony. But, Her will be done—and it is always through the movement of the cells in Her body: How else would it happen?

That's the way.

Platinum 11-16-2015 08:31 AM

I think it's the fact that the Qur'an is an ancient book in modern times. We can't turn a blind eye and pretend these religions have perfect rules and messages. For example, the bible states that women are below men and it endorses slavery based on race. These don't resound with today's values, so we turn a blind eye and believe what we want.
These ISIS people are taking the Qur'an word for word. I'm not too familiar with the Qur'an but I believe this is why they justify their doings.

Ryan 11-16-2015 10:00 AM

Here is an interesting video
https://www.facebook.com/theprojectt...1/?pnref=story


tl;dr Isis is motivating individuals to commit terrorist like offences so people turn on Muslims in general, leaving them no where else to go except for ISIS. They want a war where it is muslims against everyone

PumaD 11-16-2015 10:35 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 633624)
Here is an interesting video
https://www.facebook.com/theprojectt...1/?pnref=story


tl;dr Isis is motivating individuals to commit terrorist like offences so people turn on Muslims in general, leaving them no where else to go except for ISIS. They want a war where it is muslims against everyone

That's a pretty good idea. Too bad people aren't that dumb (except some few ones). :rolleyes:

MBK 11-16-2015 10:49 AM

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Posted by Xenthic (Post 633560)
don't forget guys Islam is the religion of peace!

I wouldn't be surprised if there's gonna be another attack soon in Germany or the UK. Europe will eventually become an Islamic continent, on average Muslim families are having more children in order to have a bigger Muslim population so they can choose and out vote who comes into power and if a leader wants votes they will have to please the majority in some way therefore a Muslim leader will be chosen and it's all a plan to overthrow and implement sharia law and it's all gonna happen. Already in parts of London are no go zones for British people since the area is predominantly muslim.

There's already tons of Quran verses that say you can kill any non Muslim and you're allowed to lie as long as it benefits Islam in some way.

I dare u to name one.

Skyzer 11-16-2015 11:45 AM

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Posted by MBK (Post 633631)
I dare u to name one.

Quran 3:28
"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, or their companions instead for the believers : if someone does, then you have no contact with Allah : unless Muslims take precautions, and plays fake."

MBK 11-16-2015 12:03 PM

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Posted by 19112526518 (Post 633635)
Quran 3:28
"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, or their companions instead for the believers : if someone does, then you have no contact with Allah : *unless Muslims take precautions,and plays fake"

This verse does not prohibit Muslims making friends with non-Muslims, but rather it warns Muslims from making friends, patrons etc with unbelievers (non-Muslims and hypocrites) that try to deliberately make you lose faith in Islam, and those hypocrites who are helping non-Muslims in their cause to make you lose faith in Islam in order to gain honour in the eyes of non-Muslims rather than trying to increase the faith of the Muslims.

*except if you indeed fear a danger from them.

(btw,the verse you quoted doesn't say anywhere that you are allowed to kill non-muslims or lie to benifit Islam.)


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