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Areo 11-02-2015 07:18 PM

Is gaming a form of art?
 
No, not playing the games. But are video games themselves a form of art?

Let's discuss.

I'll play a little devil's advocate here.
Why gaming is an art form:
Spoiler
creating a game from scratch is like painting an interactive picture. Art often is a representation or an emotion or concept from the maker. Games have this, such as Majora's Mask. Games also feature intense stories, often they elicit more emotion then movies or books. They create a atmosphere where anything is possible.


Why gaming is not an art form:
Spoiler
when do you ever create a game from scratch? Hell, 90% of call of duty gets re-used in the next addition. That would be like grabbing a finished painting and adding a small outer edge to the canvas and painting on it, than calling it a entirely new painting. Most games are not made with making the best game possible in mind. They are made in a way that most suits the producers wallets.


Those are just a few arguments.

What are your thoughts on this?

kenthefruit 11-02-2015 07:30 PM

yes, they are. there's several forms of art that goes into making a video game.

Dusty 11-02-2015 07:41 PM

Gaming != Game development.

Crono 11-02-2015 08:06 PM

gaming is not art, but some video games have artistic merit

all imo of course~

5hift 11-02-2015 10:48 PM

Creating a video game is art.

Playing a video game is not art.

If you guys read up on Shigeru Miyamoto you'll find some pretty inspiring stuff about him like how he wanted to take the feeling adventure and discovery he felt as a kid and put it into a simulation for everyone to experience.

That is no different than art in any way besides it being an actual simulation.

Nep 11-02-2015 11:04 PM

Making a game is not art imo.
Its more of a form of development and technology, then to be "art".
There are "art" aspects in games, but that doesnt necessarily make the game a form of art.

For people who play games, its more of a hobby or sport then art as well.

kenthefruit 11-02-2015 11:15 PM

Quote:

Posted by Nep (Post 628831)
Making a game is not art imo.
Its more of a form of development and technology, then to be "art".
There are "art" aspects in games, but that doesnt necessarily make the game a form of art.

For people who play games, its more of a hobby or sport then art as well.

if it has art in it, it's art

the art is a part of the game

and the question asks if games are art.

so, if it's a part of the game, then the game itself, must too be art.


I don't believe you can say "this is the art aspect of the game, but the rest isn't" because it all goes together to form something.


also

art
ärt
noun
1.
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.

Dusty 11-02-2015 11:18 PM

Quote:

Posted by Nep (Post 628831)
Making a game is not art imo.
Its more of a form of development and technology, then to be "art".
There are "art" aspects in games, but that doesnt necessarily make the game a form of art.

For people who play games, its more of a hobby or sport then art as well.

What makes a book art? The story? What makes the store in a video game less artistic than the story in a book? What about movies? Movies are art, and sometimes a video game can tell a better story than a movie can.

Brick 11-02-2015 11:23 PM

I think games are a compilation of different arts. There's the graphics, story, etc. that all contribute to what a game is. Each of these can be considered different forms of art, so I suppose combining them would make a piece of art as well.

Nep 11-02-2015 11:26 PM

Like brick said, i would consider graal a art because players make stuff, but creating a fps i wouldnt, because its a team just using software to create guns etc.

kenthefruit 11-02-2015 11:42 PM

Quote:

Posted by Nep (Post 628843)
Like brick said, i would consider graal a art because players make stuff, but creating a fps i wouldnt, because its a team just using software to create guns etc.

art
ärt
noun
1.
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.


Basically the reason it's art: http://www.futurechips.org/thoughts-....X2DvSbau.dpuf

DADA 11-02-2015 11:43 PM

Everything is art.


because art is perceived....and the universe is fookn diverse.


PS dictionaries are bs cause humans created the words, so humans can change them to there hearts content. Its a cultures and an individual's solidarity with the word that keeps the intent and perception of a word meaningful.

Nep 11-03-2015 12:31 AM

Art is what someone believes.
its my opinion.

Skt A. Sangue 11-03-2015 12:34 AM

IMO Gaming is a sport. As an actual athlete, I don't think any sports are "arts"

kenthefruit 11-03-2015 02:06 AM

Quote:

Posted by Skt A. Sangue (Post 628873)
IMO Gaming is a sport. As an actual athlete, I don't think any sports are "arts"

that's also because Gaming isn't nationally known as a sport. And yes, some people consider sports a form of arts too. Judging by the site linked below, the majority does.

http://www.debate.org/opinions/are-sports-forms-of-art

Skyzer 11-03-2015 02:54 AM

Art is the expression or application of emotion and beauty. Showing creativity with ones imagination and skill.

Nep 11-03-2015 03:42 AM

Yes, but then there is the stereotypical "artist".
If a person came up to you on the street saying they're an artist, you wouldn't consider game creating.

Skyzer 11-03-2015 03:49 AM

Quote:

Posted by Nep (Post 628964)
Yes, but then there is the stereotypical "artist".
If a person came up to you on the street saying they're an artist, you wouldn't consider game creating.

Don't tell me what I would and wouldn't do.

optimuswhat 11-03-2015 06:33 AM

Mother 3 is a pretty good examples of video games being artistic. It's full of symbolism and themes. I'd like to see someone do a report of sorts on it.

Midori 11-03-2015 09:49 AM

Art has multiple meanings, one referring to the expression of human creativity and emotion, and another being a skill that requires much experience (eg. "The Art of War").

Creating a game requires far more than just being able to write a piece of software on a machine. Behind most games is a team of talented script writers, character artists, scenario designers, voice actors, composers, researchers, and many other creative individuals (although not all games feature all of the above roles and most are a combination of diverse talents). What makes it all work is when these people can take a single idea and let it grow to something that stimulates the player visually, audibly, and emotionally. And when it happens, the end result is nothing short of magical.

This creativity can be expressed in many ways, from the cinematic storylines of the Legend of Zelda to the vast beautiful fantasy landscapes of The Elder Scrolls. Even the simplistic graphics of Minecraft can be used by the player to express their own imaginations and creations, which all encourage others to interpret these ideas in their own ways.

In that respect, surely game design fulfils both definitions of an art?


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