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SouthernZombie* 09-20-2015 09:36 PM

Being proud of someone?
 
Okay let's say a dad of two daughters one daughter has a shop and the other daughter works at a store, should the dad treat the daughter that works at a store differently? If yes explain why correctly without being rude or going off topic. (Should someone that is doing better in life be treat better than someone who isn't?)

Albie 09-20-2015 09:41 PM

If they both worked equally hard to get the job that they currently have they should be treated the same.

Kieran2820 09-20-2015 09:45 PM

Not at all. Both children should be treated equally no matter what.

SouthernZombie* 09-20-2015 09:47 PM

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Posted by Albie (Post 615814)
If they both worked equally hard to get the job that they currently have they should be treated the same.

Let's say one daughter dropped out of school early and the other stayed in school and got to have there own shop...The daughter that didn't work hard should be treated differently by family? If yes how is that right?

Zetectic 09-20-2015 09:49 PM

hes gonna luv whoever gives him more $$$$. thats the reality in s.k.

Albie 09-20-2015 09:50 PM

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Posted by SouthernZombie* (Post 615817)
Let's say one daughter dropped out of school early and the other stayed in school and got to have there own shop...The daughter that didn't work hard should be treated differently by family? If yes how is that right?

If I had two kids and one of them worked their ass off and the other didn't give a ****. I'd obviously congratulate the one who's gone to Yale more than the one who gave up on school because he was bored.
I'd love them the same but one would get more praise, for sure.

5hift 09-20-2015 09:52 PM

At least they both have jobs.

Things would be different if one worked in the shop and the other slacked off at home.

SouthernZombie* 09-20-2015 09:53 PM

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Posted by Albie (Post 615820)
If I had two kids and one of them worked their ass off and the other didn't give a ****. I'd obviously congratulate the one who's gone to Yale more than the one who gave up on school because he was bored.
I'd love them the same but one would get more praise, for sure.

Okay, thanks for commenting.

MrSimons 09-20-2015 10:00 PM

The father should treat the daughter that is working better, because women should not be allowed to own businesses.

5hift 09-20-2015 10:09 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615823)
The father should treat the daughter that is working better, because women should not be allowed to own businesses.

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Fulgore 09-20-2015 10:29 PM

Love for both of them is unconditional, but love can be tough love sometimes. If you know your children are capable of doing something much more than what they're doing now, you have to let them know so. Loving your children equally has to be the given, but you also want to reward them for their accomplishments individually, not together. Upon being grown up this becomes less important, as each of the children leads their own life. They will be responsible for all their actions at this point, and it was their actions that led them to wherever they are. Because of this, loving them equally is all that there is really left to do.

Just my opinion.

The Doctor 09-20-2015 11:24 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615823)
The father should treat the daughter that is working better, because women should not be allowed to own businesses.

gr8 b8 m8

Talon 09-21-2015 12:38 AM

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Posted by SouthernZombie* (Post 615812)
Okay let's say a dad of two daughters one daughter has a shop and the other daughter works at a store, should the dad treat the daughter that works at a store differently? If yes explain why correctly without being rude or going off topic. (Should someone that is doing better in life be treat better than someone who isn't?)

you should own a business too

also depends on what you mean by "treat"

GOAT 09-21-2015 06:19 AM

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Posted by SouthernZombie* (Post 615812)
Okay let's say a dad of two daughters one daughter has a shop and the other daughter works at a store, should the dad treat the daughter that works at a store differently? If yes explain why correctly without being rude or going off topic. (Should someone that is doing better in life be treat better than someone who isn't?)

You need to be more specific about the situations of the 2 daughters. Someone would need more information about their up-bring to analyze the situation. There are many factors that could cause one daughter to be less successful than the other.

But say both daughters did their best in school and work just as hard as one another, but one ended up more successful than the other then I don't think she would deserve to be treated differently.

But say the reason(s) one daughter was less successful than the other was because of laziness/drugs/not giving af then yes I think she deserved to be treated differently. You can love them the same while treating them differently. You would also take into consideration how they were brought up. Was there favoritism between both of them, was one given more support than the other, stuff like that.



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Posted by SouthernZombie* (Post 615812)
(Should someone that is doing better in life be treat better than someone who isn't?)

This also depends on what you mean by "better"

Example:
Daughter #1

Successful doctor married to another doctor. Big house, expensive cars, but the husband cheats and her 15 year old daughter is hanging around the wrong crowed because mom and dad are too busy to give her any attention.


Daughter #2
Nurse married to a mechanic. Small house, inexpensive cars, loving husband and her 15 year old daughter is the all-american girl because her parents are broke so they don't have any choice but to spend time with her.

Who's doing better? Most people don't associate happiness as part of being successful. I rather be poor, but truly happy than rich and miserable.

Lynx V. 09-21-2015 06:52 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615823)
The father should treat the daughter that is working better, because women should not be allowed to own businesses.

I swear, I know this is bait, but, every time you post I lose braincells.

MrSimons 09-21-2015 07:00 AM

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Posted by Lynx V. (Post 615907)
I swear, I know this is bait, but, every time you post I lose braincells.

Not my fault "progressive" idiots like you can't take a bit of realism. Women have no place in the world of management.

Source: Any female politician or CEO ever.

Vulcan Blaze 09-21-2015 10:06 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615908)
Women have no place in the world of management.

Source: Any female politician or CEO ever.

Sexist?

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615908)
The father should treat the daughter that is working better, because women should not be allowed to own businesses.

Sexist?

PumaD 09-21-2015 01:34 PM

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Posted by Vulcan Blaze (Post 615914)
Sexist?



Sexist?

Sexist.

MrSimons 09-21-2015 04:58 PM

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Posted by Vulcan Blaze (Post 615914)
Sexist?



Sexist?

Facts aren't sexist.

Vulcan Blaze 09-21-2015 05:03 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615951)
Facts aren't sexist.

Wow, you are generally the most sexist person ive ever seen. :\

SouthernZombie* 09-21-2015 05:12 PM

Hmm

Fulgore 09-21-2015 05:27 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615951)
Facts aren't sexist.

You're GOAT level or higher with this bait right now I love it.

*sips*

Latte 09-24-2015 06:03 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 615908)
Not my fault "progressive" idiots like you can't take a bit of realism. Women have no place in the world of management.

Source: Any female politician or CEO ever.

You don't have a girlfriend
Source: Your ex-girlfriend

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Posted by Vulcan Blaze (Post 615953)
Wow, you are generally the most sexist person ive ever seen. :\

Don't worry, he isn't serious. He ****posts a lot.

MrSimons 09-24-2015 06:04 AM

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Posted by Latte (Post 616520)
You don't have a girlfriend
Source: Your ex-girlfriend

Wow girls are so amazing thnx

edit: apparently management == forum mod. wow. so talent.
much power.
such amaze.

Bram- 09-24-2015 06:11 AM

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Posted by Latte (Post 616520)
You don't have a girlfriend
Source: Your ex-girlfriend


Don't worry, he isn't serious. He ****posts a lot.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Skill 09-24-2015 06:16 AM

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Mangsi 09-24-2015 06:20 AM

Simons you're so inspirational to girls around the world. You tell em what they can and can't do, put them in their place.
You sick bastard you.

Bram- 09-24-2015 06:21 AM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 616525)
Simons you're so inspirational to girls around the world. You tell em what they can and can't do, put them in their place.
You sick bastard you.

Put em in da trasshhhh

MrSimons 09-24-2015 06:23 AM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 616525)
Simons you're so inspirational to girls around the world. You tell em what they can and can't do, put them in their place.
You sick bastard you.

I certainly hope that there aren't any women being inspired.

Mangsi 09-24-2015 06:36 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 616527)
I certainly hope that there aren't any women being inspired.

There won't be with that attitude. Instead of feminists we need anti-simonists <3.

Foxmon 09-24-2015 09:14 AM

If they both are making the most out of their skills, then he should be proud of them no matter what job or income they have. If one of them are slacking off and not doing what they can and its affecting her own family, or making a bad example to her kids, then that wouldn't be good. It still wouldn't justify prefering one daughter over the other. However the dad could try to push a little to get his daughter to see what kind of example she would set for her own kids.

Personally I don't think the position or title of their kids should matter for a parent, but I guess it still has a great meaning in todays society with how most parent choose to name the profession of one of their kids to friends, while some other jobs or positions get less attention or glory.

fsh 09-24-2015 09:24 AM

lol right??


speaking of rights
women don't have any

Mio 09-24-2015 10:28 AM

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Posted by fsh (Post 616546)
lol right??


speaking of rights
women don't have any

this is why there are feminists

Neil 09-24-2015 10:30 AM

Yes u should treat the one who got the store better

Sardon 09-25-2015 01:30 AM

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Posted by fsh (Post 616546)
lol right??


speaking of rights
women don't have any

women have lefts

Ladies why is dinner not ready yet?

Platinum 09-26-2015 12:31 PM

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(Should someone that is doing better in life be treat better than someone who isn't?)
Both of them should be treated with the same respect and kindness as each other. Just because one is more successful than another does not say anything about a person and their values.

Ivy 09-26-2015 02:55 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 615901)
You need to be more specific about the situations of the 2 daughters. Someone would need more information about their up-bring to analyze the situation. There are many factors that could cause one daughter to be less successful than the other.

But say both daughters did their best in school and work just as hard as one another, but one ended up more successful than the other then I don't think she would deserve to be treated differently.

But say the reason(s) one daughter was less successful than the other was because of laziness/drugs/not giving af then yes I think she deserved to be treated differently. You can love them the same while treating them differently. You would also take into consideration how they were brought up. Was there favoritism between both of them, was one given more support than the other, stuff like that.




This also depends on what you mean by "better"

Example:
Daughter #1

Successful doctor married to another doctor. Big house, expensive cars, but the husband cheats and her 15 year old daughter is hanging around the wrong crowed because mom and dad are too busy to give her any attention.


Daughter #2
Nurse married to a mechanic. Small house, inexpensive cars, loving husband and her 15 year old daughter is the all-american girl because her parents are broke so they don't have any choice but to spend time with her.

Who's doing better? Most people don't associate happiness as part of being successful. I rather be poor, but truly happy than rich and miserable.

Must spread rep

Talon 09-27-2015 08:05 PM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 617013)
Both of them should be treated with the same respect and kindness as each other. Just because one is more successful than another does not say anything about a person and their values.

If a person is vastly more successful than another it very clearly shows their values. There's the 40 year old guy who's stuck at a dead-end public service job playing Flappy Bird on his phone at work and just wants the day to be over, and the 40 year old guy who is a successful entrepreneur, making millions as the CEO of his own company.

I'd like to think the latter values their success and their happiness more.

Platinum 09-27-2015 11:12 PM

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Posted by Talon (Post 617337)
If a person is vastly more successful than another it very clearly shows their values. There's the 40 year old guy who's stuck at a dead-end public service job playing Flappy Bird on his phone at work and just wants the day to be over, and the 40 year old guy who is a successful entrepreneur, making millions as the CEO of his own company.

I'd like to think the latter values their success and their happiness more.

I disagree. Just because the former man didn't enjoy his job doesn't mean he doesn't volunteer, love his family, or travel on holidays. He might have a dead-end public service job and dislikes it, but he may be happy and exactly where he wants to be in life.
Similarly, just because one is a millionaire CEO doesn't mean they are automatically happy, or stressed.

Success =/= happiness.

5hift 09-28-2015 12:26 AM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 617378)
I disagree. Just because the former man didn't enjoy his job doesn't mean he doesn't volunteer, love his family, or travel on holidays. He might have a dead-end public service job and dislikes it, but he may be happy and exactly where he wants to be in life.
Similarly, just because one is a millionaire CEO doesn't mean they are automatically happy, or stressed.

Success =/= happiness.

How do you not have a billion bars of rep?

MrSimons 09-28-2015 03:01 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 617390)
How do you not have a billion bars of rep?

female

Fulgore 09-28-2015 03:33 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 617568)
female

LOOL

I'll rep as soon as I spread some to the undeserving masses.

5hift 09-28-2015 04:04 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 617568)
female

Wow I never knew something so unbelievably trivial could be impacted by the unbelievably simple fact of gender.

MrSimons 09-28-2015 11:02 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 617582)
Wow I never knew something so unbelievably trivial could be impacted by the unbelievably simple fact of gender.

If you want to know the real reason she doesn't have a billion bars of rep, its because I'm not sure Plat has ever told a joke.

5hift 09-28-2015 11:10 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 617647)
If you want to know the real reason she doesn't have a billion bars of rep, its because I'm not sure Plat has ever told a joke.

Oh **** a legit reason to not have rep.

I better stand down after this one.

TomatoPanda 09-28-2015 11:16 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 617568)
female

So messed up but I couldn't stop from smirking.

Platinum 09-29-2015 12:16 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 617647)
If you want to know the real reason she doesn't have a billion bars of rep, its because I'm not sure Plat has ever told a joke.

Knock Knock

MrSimons 09-29-2015 10:46 PM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 617810)
Knock Knock

Who's there?

GOAT 09-29-2015 11:43 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 617895)
Who's there?

Your Mexican stepdad

HON3Y BADG3R 09-30-2015 03:06 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 617895)
Who's there?

Glass Ceiling


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