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Sardon 08-26-2015 07:00 AM

The big problem with anime
 
Warning this is one of those threads I go on about something


I can usualy get into anything
im usualy not too picky with tv shows I get into stuff fast.

though I cannot stand reading subtitles.
Critisize me as much as you want but
why do we have these subtitles

Popular animes receive A Lot of money
They obviously have much much more than enough to pay for translations
So that their anime can be in english french and spanish, german,portugese ect.

I understand for as to why they do not want to change how we read a manga but why not hire voice actors to play the translated roles in an anime.
Like in pokemon

The people who made sword art online or full metal alchemist are drowning in cash yet wont spend a penny to get voice actors.


Also can you weaboos list some animes that actualy have an english version?

Keeluah 08-26-2015 07:39 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 608282)
The people who made sword art online or full metal alchemist are drowning in cash yet wont spend a penny to get voice actors.

wat? they have english dubs for these two.

Japan does not focus on creating English dub for their series since majority of their money comes directly from Japan. Most studios really do not bother much with foreign countries. However studios in America, namely funimation, works to dub most popular series and have recently reached out towards ongoing shows as well. Just go to the Funi site http://www.funimation.com/videos/episodes and change the language to Dubbed (idk y is it not just english instead) in the search function.

Reasons to why people listen to Subbed is that 1. there is more series. 2. The way each voice is originally portrayed comparative to a English remake. 3. Japan has more pride in their VA so the quality of work is much better compared to America.

Livid 08-26-2015 08:56 AM

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Posted by Keeluah (Post 608286)
wat? they have english dubs for these two.

Japan does not focus on creating English dub for their series since majority of their money comes directly from Japan. Most studios really do not bother much with foreign countries. However studios in America, namely funimation, works to dub most popular series and have recently reached out towards ongoing shows as well. Just go to the Funi site http://www.funimation.com/videos/episodes and change the language to Dubbed (idk y is it not just english instead) in the search function.

Reasons to why people listen to Subbed is that 1. there is more series. 2. The way each voice is originally portrayed comparative to a English remake. 3. Japan has more pride in their VA so the quality of work is much better compared to America.

couldnt have said it better myself.

Bram- 08-26-2015 09:10 AM

Stop watching anime,nerds

Distorted_P2P 08-26-2015 09:19 AM

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Posted by Bram- (Post 608299)
Stop watching anime,nerds

I'd say 75% of the people who use Graalians watch anime buddy. I think the General Anime Thread has the second most replies behind the Last Comment Wins thread.

Talon 08-26-2015 09:44 AM

Despite you being on my ignore list due to the fact that I think you're just a humongous troll, I'll bite on this one because of how ridiculous this is.

You know how poorly Japanese translates into English? As someone fluent in both, and someone who has seen shows in both their dubbed and subbed versions, one of the major problems in dubbed anime does not lie with the voice actors themselves, but with the lines they're forced to read since the original message has to be skewed and tortured in its translation to English to even somewhat resemble what the characters on-screen are saying. Watch any Zero scene from Code Geass. Then watch it dubbed in English. The problem isn't with the voice actors.

Yeah, sure. The studios can also reanimate the show to fit a more natural English tone, but why would a Japanese-based studio go through all that trouble to please a very, very, very small minority of American viewers that prefer dubs (I'll guesstimate at 2%) - and the only viewers that prefer dubs are the ones who aren't really invested in anime at all, much less driven to the point of spending money on it. The exceptions? Pokemon, Naruto, Dragon Ball Z, and Yu-Gi-Oh. Real quick - tell me to the audience that these relatively decent dubs cater to.

As such, they don't really give half of a **** about what some uninvested Americans think about their show, and as a result, quality dubs will probably never be a priority so get over it or stop watching.

kenthefruit 08-26-2015 09:56 AM

You've angered the anime community, Sardon, run.

Nep 08-26-2015 11:46 AM

Sardon, dub is ****. End of story.

Albie 08-26-2015 12:26 PM

I like dub because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to read subtitles.

Sardon 08-26-2015 02:33 PM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 608305)
You've angered the anime community, Sardon, run.

Ive stepped in the wrong waters.

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Posted by Albie (Post 608328)
I like dub because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to read subtitles.

me too

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Posted by Bram- (Post 608299)
Stop watching anime,nerds

hentay is better than anime

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Posted by Talon (Post 608303)
Despite you being on my ignore list due to the fact that I think you're just a humongous troll, I'll bite on this one because of how ridiculous this is.

You know how poorly Japanese translates into English? As someone fluent in both, and someone who has seen shows in both their dubbed and subbed versions, one of the major problems in dubbed anime does not lie with the voice actors themselves, but with the lines they're forced to read since the original message has to be skewed and tortured in its translation to English to even somewhat resemble what the characters on-screen are saying. Watch any Zero scene from Code Geass. Then watch it dubbed in English. The problem isn't with the voice actors.

Yeah, sure. The studios can also reanimate the show to fit a more natural English tone, but why would a Japanese-based studio go through all that trouble to please a very, very, very small minority of American viewers that prefer dubs (I'll guesstimate at 2%) - and the only viewers that prefer dubs are the ones who aren't really invested in anime at all, much less driven to the point of spending money on it. The exceptions? Pokemon, Naruto, Dragon Ball Z, and Yu-Gi-Oh. Real quick - tell me to the audience that these relatively decent dubs cater to.

As such, they don't really give half of a **** about what some uninvested Americans think about their show, and as a result, quality dubs will probably never be a priority so get over it or stop watching.

Im not trolling when im saying I am not a big fan of android and I preffer apple devices.

Nibbles 08-26-2015 02:34 PM

Sigh i loved anime and i stopped becuz i watched every anime

SouthernZombie* 08-26-2015 04:28 PM

I'll go pray for you, brb.

GlazeyB 08-26-2015 07:55 PM

why is he still allowed to post

he contributes nothing to anything.

Admiral 08-26-2015 08:03 PM

Dub has its place for the few shows, but its rlly not worth it over sub

I enjoyed watching Bleach in dub, u should try that

twilit 08-26-2015 08:58 PM

- If you cant read subtitles, youre fkn lazy and probably illiterate.
- Anime production studios really dont make a ton of money. It cost a lot of money to produce any type of TV show, and the money they make barely covers those expenses. Many anime studios only survive by selling merchandise through licensing. Others go bankrupt.
- Anime studios are under no obligation to make their own English/French/etc versions of their shows.
-That's why there's a such thing as fan dubs.

hosler 08-26-2015 09:08 PM

I hate dubs because I can tell when the voice acting is bad. If they are talking in Japanese I can't tell either way so I don't care about it.

Sardon 08-26-2015 10:07 PM

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Posted by GlazeyB (Post 608398)
why is he still allowed to post

he contributes nothing to anything.

And you do?

We all have the right to post our opinion on things no matter how many people disagree it should be heard.

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Posted by twilit (Post 608419)
- If you cant read subtitles, youre fkn lazy and probably illiterate.
- Anime production studios really dont make a ton of money. It cost a lot of money to produce any type of TV show, and the money they make barely covers those expenses. Many anime studios only survive by selling merchandise through licensing. Others go bankrupt.
- Anime studios are under no obligation to make their own English/French/etc versions of their shows.
-That's why there's a such thing as fan dubs.

- if I was illiterate I would not be here would I
What if I wanted to listen to the characters and look at the art instead of reading every line.
- I dont know if im the only one who noticed but anime is very popular now
that does not take a genius to figure out.
Popular animes like any tv show or movie make a good profit
- Of course like any other media nobody needs to translate their stuff
It would be nice to do so though for the people and buisness-wise

I think im going to get outa here before the squad of raging weaboos Cuss me out.

Neil 08-26-2015 10:31 PM

Sardon sometimes makes good threads.

5hift 08-26-2015 10:33 PM

Don't kid yourself.

GlazeyB 08-26-2015 10:37 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 608435)
And you do?

We all have the right to post our opinion on things no matter how many people disagree it should be heard.

more than you ever have. You don't have an opinion, you're just continually flame baiting and acting ******ed about it.


legit, can he just get banned? pls

Mio 08-27-2015 01:31 AM

It's not the anime, It's the person watching the anime.

Nep 08-27-2015 01:36 AM

Sardon has so many haters......
I reach down and pick up a pitch fork and hold it up high...

GlazeyB 08-27-2015 01:41 AM

perhaps if he didn't act like a femnazi and actually contribute to stuff, just maybe he won't get as much ****.

Dio Brando 08-29-2015 12:30 AM

Jesus christ the amount of hate for english dubs on this thread is ridiculous. For a start english dubs having been getting better for the past 6-5 years and are becoming more consistant in their quality. Will there be crap dubs every now then? Yes there will be, but those are far and few between

Keeluah 08-29-2015 01:15 AM

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Posted by Dio Brando (Post 609131)
Jesus christ the amount of hate for english dubs on this thread is ridiculous. For a start english dubs having been getting better for the past 6-5 years and are becoming more consistant in their quality. Will there be crap dubs every now then? Yes there will be, but those are far and few between

Still not close to the level with Japan. We have America who hire anyone that sounds good, has education and experience in the department and willing to work. Then there's Japan where competition is big and many people have crushing life being unable to get work. Many companies gets the bests to voice their anime. Just watch Sore ga Seiyuu and ShiroBako and you can see how life of voice actors in Japan is on another level comparative to America.

fsh 08-29-2015 03:14 AM

weaboos
jk chill lol

John 08-29-2015 03:52 AM

I like subs for really good animes, but old school animes from the 90s I always watch in dub.

Dio Brando 08-29-2015 10:10 PM

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Posted by Keeluah (Post 609146)
Still not close to the level with Japan. We have America who hire anyone that sounds good, has education and experience in the department and willing to work. Then there's Japan where competition is big and many people have crushing life being unable to get work. Many companies gets the bests to voice their anime. Just watch Sore ga Seiyuu and ShiroBako and you can see how life of voice actors in Japan is on another level comparative to America.

In my eyes dubs are catching up to subs in their consistency. You say that America will hire people that are good yet you also that Japan also hires people that are good and i have no idea what point you are trying to make here but if you are suggesting that companies such as Funimation just hire average voice actors then thats a stupid statement to make

Clown 08-29-2015 10:27 PM

I personally can't stand anime

Don't get me wrong, im not against it and I can respect why people watch it (I used to watch pokemon marathons when I was younger) but now ive just gone off it for whatever reason. I might have the image of cheesy quotes and stuff from when I was younger that makes it seem embarrassing to watch anime - but I do understand that they make anime for all ages now and it's not just 'children's cartoons'

KuyaGabeGraal 08-30-2015 06:02 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 608282)




though I cannot stand reading subtitles.
Critisize me as much as you want but
why do we have these subtitles

Helps people who have hearing problems and its also a way to learn japanese

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Posted by Sardon (Post 608282)
Also can you weaboos list some animes that actualy have an english version?

Gurren Lagann, S-cry-ed, melancholy of haruhi suzumiya, Cowboy Bepop and Speed Grapher were good


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