Health and Damage update
 

Hey Guys,

Today we changed the Player HP to 100 and Changed the Base HP to 500, now effected by Damage and Speed and not only speed anymore.

e.g.: Your gun does 10 damage the Flag lose 10 HP.


How do you feel about it?

Alpho announced more high damaged guns to be released. Im happy with that. Hopefully mew Hs guns since the hs shop only has two. But, i wish the damage added to the gun were doubled. Or all increased by the same precentage. My Nature destroyer bow, does 11 damage, and so does the rons, when the bow is actually supposed to be stronger. I do not like this. I am not sure if all other guns are equally buffed, but the nature destroyer needs to be atleast 13 damage.

i love it
but can you make the starter pistol a little less than 9 damage? it is the starter pistol also the rons are 13 damage but a bow i can buy with money is 15 damage... just my thoughts

I also played with player respawn timers, and nobody seemed to like it. Player respawn time is already at 5 seconds, I just put it on your screen and everybody hated it - not sure why.

Gun Stats are also in the process of being buffed server-wide, and we also plan to release more powerful guns in the future to even everything out since melee weapons are very OP.

Fixed the Bow was a little mistake sorry for that :P

Also dont forget there are still other stats behind the damage so, atm we double the Damage -1 for the most.

Make it possible to see weapon stats in your inventory and shops. Sometimes things are nerfed or buffed and you don't even know it.

I will post a new Gun stats sheet asap just wait 4-5 hours probally finish it by tomorrow

sounds interesting :o

That was legitness.

Yes! Finally

Well I haven't played all day I'm in for a surprise :(

... yea its trash u cant even pk anymore instead of just bringing out better guns you make it so that you cant even kill someone with a melee in a base because u die instantly because ur one person against 8 #KilledPking

Flags have 100hp what you talking bout?

He means, since melees are still same hp, he cant kill one person. Without a whole crowd going after him. It tales him longer to kill one, and he finds it harder to kill just one because it tales twoce as long to kill and all the people against you is too mudh to handle.

exactly. I swear Ol west staff are the most hard headed people in the world insted of just making guns better you turn melees into *** and boost the health making it even harder to kill laggers but now your going to bring out more melees with better damage makes no sense when you couldve just brought out better guns and guns can be alot more creative its complicated for no reason. Tbh ow is going into a route thats not to my liking and idk if ill be around for much longer. The game was already slow and now its slower. Return it to normal -_-

This whole thing is going down hill. Maybe the staffs were trying to bring something new but I guess it backfired.

+rep thank you

Yeah, i agree that they should have just released better guns. The things is, people are afraid of better guns, because they think they are not going to be able to get them. The thing about era, that they have done wrong, is the amount of gralats needed to buy a good gun, and the small-paying jobs. Making better guns, will not ruin Ol'West, but making guns too expensive, and making jobs lower paying will. Jobs are great. I have had more money here than i ever had in era 4+years of playing it. I think resetting the health and gun damage back to normal, and releaseing better attainable guns is the right way to go.

Their not worried about price, players are worried about BARs in ol west lmao

tbh era would be perect if they had the same jobs as ol west paying wise and if the lag stopped. If they did that I mostlikely would not be playing ol west imo theres nothing wring with era guns besides the fact that gralats are hard to obtain. No one wouod complain about the bar if everyone was able to obtain it with a reasonable amount of work put in. But this whole new system has put me off ow for the time being. Oh and it takes era admins ages to release stuff which is annoying but yea besides the point.

One things wrong with era though there will be like 20 guns for one price but only 1 or 2 are worth buying

Anyone, with a bar is a happy graalian. Anyone without one, feels how much they are killed by one because they have a lower damaged gun. If you were able to get the gun that kills the fastest, im sure you would not be complaining. You would enjoy it, and be happy you can afford it.

I'm not mad others are lmao could destroy a bar with my maccus Uzis :3

I did not say you are mad. This is the question i am asking. If you were able to obtain one of the best guns in the server, would you not be happy?

Hello

As a team, we were trying to make PK more interesting on Ol' West. We felt that Melees took over the server, and that we wanted to make guns more of an asset to the game. To do that without nerfing anything, we had to increase the Player HP and increase gun damage.

Sadly, it wasn't implemented correctly and it backfired as one of you said earlier. We will be working on a PK improvement server-wide, but for now we will be reverting things mostly to how they were before.

Sorry about the issues.

Nope I wouldn't actually too much hate from players without the gun, doesn't give me a chance to show skill and wouldn't give me anything else to save for.

Alpho, it is understandable. But, i think you should just work on better guns. The HP is fine, but, the guns here, can't compete with melees since there not as powerful. Yes, powerful guns = More horseshoes, and gralats. The jobs are well paying, and i am sure if you release 50-75 hs guns, or 50-80k guns, we would not be dissapointed, due to the well paying jobs. A gun 50-80k on Ol'West is attainable for the average player, with a good amount of work put into it.

If you are equally matched, you still need skill, since you can kill at the same rate. But, if you really wanted to show skill, spar, or use lower damaged guns to take down those higher.

I think the update is perfectly fine, just the people who are complaining are the melee rushes, and I'm pretty sure most western movies I watched, they used lots of guns, not running around with knifes and spears....just saying.

Now basing does rely on your members... With 50 points you could have 2 skilled players against 6 but it's all changed...

+rep

You know this sparked an idea for me maybe weapons could be faction labeled, and if you are the faction of the weapon you get a boost. Example: Spear (Indian) if the player is in the Indian faction the spear does 1+ Damage. I've been trying to expand on factions.

I have to agree with this.

Indians mostly used knifes and spears/bows.

And i'm sure they killed in one shot. Its not about being realistic, and most people do choose melees due to the higher dmg output. Just release new higher damaged guns. Problem solved.

Has anyone noticed the group of people who complain and then hate on the staff because they fix something?

It's the same people which make's it even better. :D

Why not just release New guns with higher damage instead of buffing the current ones.
I agree that the melees are taking over the game but releasing better guns will be a better idea
And more and more people will be starting to use guns more over melees

Better guns with higher damage is not the problem solver here. If anything it will ruin Ol'West and move the gameplay (pk-wise) closer to Era's no skill form of player killing. Ol'West has a unique style when it comes to player killing because it doesn't involve ridiculously overpowered weapons that can kill in 5 shots, if you want faster paced gameplay I suggest you move over to era.

I agree the melees were/are very dominant, but I would much rather these be nerfed than new guns with higher damage be released, that is what contributed to era being ruined after its release. Everything was fine on early era before the higher damage, overpowerd guns were released and im afraid that this would happen again - I can't walk around era without being killed in a second or two

Edit: if higher damage guns are implemented, please have them as an extremely slow fire rate and freeze unlike the BAR..

Clown, the thing i personally think thats eras problem, is the high prices. Ol'West has to have higher and better guns at one point. It cannot stay how it is now. It seems boring. If the guns are not getting better as time goes on, why would anyone want to play Ol'West? Having the same damage vs same damage guns does take skill. If everyone is able to obtain a gun that is very good, they will have the same stats, and need skill to kill each other. For example, like how it is now. See how the guns are balanced? Because almost everyone can get the same gun, and guns are basically almost equal? This is why the player needs skill, and if the average player has one of the best guns, skill comes into play against other players.

Exactly. They need skill to kill each other, not money.

What Alpho did was very clever with the 100HP on players, allowing more variety in guns and gun stats without creating overpowered guns with absurd damage. He made flexibility possible when guns are made so that there is a bigger selection of damage in guns and melees, not only this but there is still time and room for all sorts of updates. Maybe poision arrows or craftable steel bullets? Who knows what's on the way.

I agree that prices on Era drag it down, but the prices don't concern me as much as the player killing gameplay - it's just stupid. A bunch of kids holding down the shoot button and moving side to side all day and racking up around 1k kills isnt right. I'm praying that West stays skill based rather than a spammy-bullet fest..

Well, yes i do not want it to be too OP either, i just want everyone to have an equal chance of getting those good items. Like Gp staffs. Now alot of players have them, and it is another option to get a great melee. I do want to see a real good hs gun and gralat gun, and gp gun. If everyone is able to afford it with a good amount of work put into it, i do not see how this can make west a non-skilled server, if it will keep the players even with each other.

Were back to 50hp

After testing, we've reverted the Gunn stats and Player HP to normal. Base Flag HP is staying at 100 though. We will do more private testing and release a finished update in the future.

It is time, for you to release healing to staffs! Next Best Update.

And after that, we can get pets that do healing and DMG!!! Or just for vanity lol

This is defintely true, also most people were complaining because were way to Overpowered.

The 100hp buff and Gun Stat change were totally fine with me because we had a higher Damage range we could use such as from 12-18 and not only 6-9.

And more powerfull guns to defeat those Way to op Melees? so you want us make miniguns and Bars? or Highdamaged guns with low firerate and highfreeze can Melee even more ? no thanks.

They way it was before it was setted back was perfectly fine. It added some Requierment in skill instead of "have-a-45hs-or-20k-gp-melee-to-survive tactics"

But oh well it is not only my decision and i can understand People that are mad because they cant rush with melees back in "time" and needed finally to get on a challenge with Guns.

i hope our testing will end Good.

I never had this much fun in basing before with just using guns. Like you could literally see everyone trying to improve themselves to win which is what I did aswell. Basing with guns as main weapon is a lot more fun in my opinion

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I didn't wanna make a new thread but why is stats coming up twice but they are different stats?? Different server?? I don't understand the person I screenied said he doesn't know why its like that...I been seeing it alot

he just changed is status to this obviously?

Idk why he would lie and say he didn't know.. especially a guildie. I just wanted to make sure.that's y i asked

I agree, basing was 2x better then it was before, the reason I quit basing and went to spar, was the fact people were just rushing with melees and rushing the flag, like what's the fun in that.