I don't care I'm just happy you guys work hard for us
 

So much sass about people working on graal. I'm just happy you guys don't rage quit due to a high sass factor

Thank you as always
Travis

No problem?

Never a problem and if there is they fix it

I quit years ago because of ungraciousness. I hope current staff realizes that people complain for petty reasons, not because their hard work isnt of value.

Devs on iClassic nowadays are pretty good with this luckily because of the thick skin thats needed with the job. The standards are pretty high in terms of quality so higher ups aren't afraid to heavily criticise someone's work if its not good enough (not to the point of calling the dev ****/whatever but they certainly don't sugarcoat feedback).

You'd be surprised how rare it is for someone to actually tell the truth. Even I have a heart sometimes and need to add some frosting on top of my negative atom bombs.

inb4 argument about everything

Make a thread complaining about the servers, get pages filled instantly. Make a thread saying it's alright, have 151 views and 7 replies.

yes sir travis great supportive post. the people complaining like the staff team are not doing anything know absolutely nothing about what the staff team is doing. just because they don't reveal their work to everyone doesn't mean they aren't working on anything.

This thread made so many people mad.

r u travis da millitary nurd

Really great to see a single thread that actually compliments the devs.It's not like the game is running by itself with no one overseeing it.

Dude you're just the best and most sensible around here xD

I do try<3

He "tries" lol

Staff shouldn't apply to be praised, people on graal are going to be ungrateful. Not a valid reason to quit.

I lost all compassion the moment I became dev.

To be fair, my computer was being hacked and I lost thousands of dollars; my personal information was being given to the public. If all the players are being ungracious, and someone feels unsafe in the public eye—it isn't invalid.

Thank You to all the staff, players, Gods (Stefan & Unix) for making Graal I wouldnt be the person I am today if I didnt have graal to meet many great people or even the **** bags on this game. GG the end

^ A Quote that can last forever here

Amen.

"I'm thinking about making Estela a military guild"
Once a nerd always a nerd. Interesting how small the world is. Three acquainted individuals meeting on a fairly low population forum.
I doubt thats Military Travis.

This was Ben a few days ago:
http://dustyshouri.dreamhosters.com/...noobsig_43.png

What happened to you when you were staff? Player comments are a real menace to developers in any game. I feel like you may not have enough experience from the developer/staff side to empathize with this. Or you're a teenager who are naturally devoid of empathy. Teenagers are an alien race, or from Hell sent to destroy all that is beautiful.

Ur welcome sir travis

Yes sir Travis

You implemented a new bug hunting/catching/spawning system in 2 weeks. You Devs must eat batteries and drink redbull to accomplish such crazy deadlines.

Seriously
Thanks for busting your butts for us regular players :D
Travis

Only thing nice on classic is the graphics.
Its nice that you guys try but you don't know what we actualy want and just redo things that were fine previously.
iclassic staff are sort of like a family member you see once a year who doesn't really know what you want but instead of asking just gives you a swetshirt with orange polkadots.

Well if you're referring to the bug system, that wasn't fine at all. It was literally buggy af (pun intended) and was in serious need of being redone.

Usually anytime there's something that's been redone it's either because it needed to be or because redoing just made it better. Or both.

:)
:>

99% of the sass is from me. You get back what you give, tenfold.

I think the fact that certain bugs had to be force sold on players is a sign some things weren't going as intended.

There is a significant pool of people that have gained experience by working on Graal that are now professional software developers. The major problem I continue to see with Graal is that there aren't very many professional developers hired to work on it. Without the presence of professionals, the authority situation is unreliable. I will refer to Antagos' posts in that regard.

When I worked on Graal Classic as the lead developer, I didn't get paid. I got a lot of stuff done. I got a lot of stuff done fairly well. I was still a ****ty dev admin, and only had something like two years of amateur programming experience and zero management experience. I got a lot of complaints about what I couldn't get done that I wanted to get done. I didn't have anyone to advise me on how to manage that kind of situation, what my expectations should be of myself, what my expectations should be of others, or anything else. There was a significant communication disconnect between the ownership of Graal and the community that created it, and I suspect that's still the case. That said, I got a lot more done than what I would personally expect of anyone else that situation; notably the server was reduced to less than a hundred levels from thousands, maybe tens of thousands of levels.

Antago was a kid who wanted to create a bunch of cool things, found an outlet, felt underappreciated, and quit. I can relate to him in that regard. Myself, if I was to be put in the same situation again, I would have quit my role much earlier. The kind of **** some people will put you through when you're not being paid or even receiving mentorship is not worth it. A zero dollar paycheck--would that be worth it to you?

I tried to create a new overworld that drew from both old and new concepts. That eventually became the basis of the overworld for iClassic. I think it's awesome that the overworld my team created was used as the basis of iClassic. I think it sucks that the quests we created were nixed, and I would think that they should be reincorporated if not for the fact that they exist and can provide value to the community. Whatever may be in the future won't stop me from having pride in what I helped to create and wanting to experience what I created again. However, it's not my decision.

I wonder if the goals of development have become more clear since my time. I'd imagine with a lot of concepts being more closely tied directly to revenue that it has, and that the maintenance of existing revenue streams outpace the importance of potential new revenue streams. I struggle even more today to find a connection between Graal ownership and the Graal player community. With graphics development and player customization, however, there seems to have been a particularly significant realignment that aligns Graal's revenues with the demand of the player base.

That said, when you're frustrated about bugs and feature requests not being resolved, the typically unpaid staff are probably more frustrated than you. The motivation for them isn't money. Sometimes it's experience, and sometimes it's pride. This is especially the case with bugs. Either something they made is broken, or fixing something someone else made is going to delay what they would rather be working on. They're not being paid. Give them a break.

Love. I really do hope everyone reads through this.

not me

Can I give you $1 and get back $10?

You get the same dollar, folded 10 times

This forum could use a couple more posters like Sir Travis.

I still can't see why the Tailor system was needed to be redone.
I think that clsssic needs to focus on adding more jobs and activities to participate in because thats what most people beleive classic needs.
And permanent activities not temporary stuff.
Working hard to make something that only lasts a week or a day isn't worth it.

Unixmad needs his bread. The more opportunities classic players have to make money, the less gralat packs he gets.
They would have to nerf pyrate bay's gralats and bug prices even more if they wanted to add new money earning content.

I do have one question. Does staff ever get holidays or time off?

Ahem. Too many cooks spoil the broth.

i bet he even thinks they get paid, bless his soul

http://i.imgur.com/Hjhs8px.png

>hard work

Just trying to know more about the mysterious world of administration

The mysterious world of administration in a nutshell:

We work hard and are treated like idiots by the community for it. A marvelous world it is.

This place is a minefield.... Very sensitive and easy to trigger explosions of.......... ehhh poop posts

The new update to horses is great. Really love the deceleration instead of the insta brakes... Makes it feel more polished

As for the sword slashing reduction? It just takes more precision now

Thanks for working so hard this fall an the latest releases at the Destiny Bazaar were great! Even MY greedy savings took at hit :)

Travis

I can't wait for October :D

I love this thread I feel it should continually be bumped to spread positivity in this subforum