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Albie 07-07-2015 10:01 PM
Denying heads?
 
I've had a head made for me which I love, here is a photo (of the front)
http://i.imgur.com/A3tnOj1.png

Whenever I try and upload it, it keeps getting denied.
These are the rules on http://www.classicupload.graalonline.com
http://i.imgur.com/TuLmwBq.png?1

It doesn't cross any of these rules and regardless of what admins think, the mask and headband are integrated into the design itself and are not full faced masks.
I've tried it multiple times, but alas, no luck.

I know there will be someone who says "if you have a problem submit it to support.toonslab.com" but they're not really going to upload my head for me are they?

The main message of this thread is: has your upload ever been denied unfairly?

Bryan* 07-07-2015 10:25 PM
Yours look like a Naruto character.

Albie 07-07-2015 10:26 PM
Quote:
Posted by Bryan* (Post 589273)
Yours look like a Naruto character.
It's based off Kakashi, though it's not that distinguishable and that is not what it was denied for.
Graal has heads based of anime shows on the default pages + you see hundreds of kids with Akatsuki bodies that get accepted :)

Colin 07-07-2015 11:12 PM
What was the deny reason?

Ivy 07-07-2015 11:26 PM
No masks

kenthefruit 07-07-2015 11:29 PM
Quote:
Posted by Shadowfox (Post 589294)
No masks
No masks that cover the face. It covers the mouth (and I've seen a lot of heads with masks on their head like this one).

Ivy 07-07-2015 11:41 PM
That's what it was denied for, masks.

Albie 07-07-2015 11:46 PM
Quote:
Posted by Colin (Post 589288)
What was the deny reason?
No full faced masks or hats

or something like that.

slyde 07-08-2015 05:01 AM
Ya they probably think that the headband/mask is a hat being integrated.

Albie 07-08-2015 07:31 AM
Quote:
Posted by slyde (Post 589406)
Ya they probably think that the headband/mask is a hat being integrated.
This is why gfx admins should be the only ones to accept heads :(

Droid 07-08-2015 09:53 AM
SLX get this all the time, technically breaks none of the rules

Albie 07-08-2015 04:07 PM
I am now banned from uploading graphics because admins do not know the rules of uploading customs. Great.

Comyt 07-08-2015 04:55 PM
that head looks pretty strange anyways

Mizochi 07-08-2015 05:18 PM
Really?! Banned??? How much did you spam it lol. Plus I got a mask that covered 90% of the face and it was still allowed so idk all the people who admit graphics don't have a universal guideline

SouthernZombie* 07-08-2015 05:19 PM
Lol gj, maybe the person denying the head hates you? Idk...

Coco 07-08-2015 06:01 PM
Maybe the headband + hair combo looks too much like a hat rather than hair + headband lol

MrSimons 07-08-2015 06:30 PM
Quote:
Posted by Coco (Post 589535)
Maybe the headband + hair combo looks too much like a hat rather than hair + headband lol
I bet that the reason a lot of heads are denied is because the artist can't make the head readable, so the staff have no idea what they are looking at.

Albie 07-08-2015 06:30 PM
Quote:
Posted by Coco (Post 589535)
Maybe the headband + hair combo looks too much like a hat rather than hair + headband lol
But it doesn't.
Can you give me your opinion, as an experienced admin.

And simons, look at the head on the first page. Would you say that it is "readable"

TD* 07-08-2015 06:39 PM
Quote:
Posted by MrSimons (Post 589545)
I bet that the reason a lot of heads are denied is because the artist can't make the head readable, so the staff have no idea what they are looking at.
There is no issue with the file. It was approved yesterday without any noticeable problems.

Albie 07-08-2015 06:55 PM
Quote:
Posted by TD* (Post 589549)
There is no issue with the file. It was approved yesterday without any noticeable problems.
What file? My head?

TD* 07-08-2015 08:05 PM
Quote:
Posted by Albie (Post 589552)
What file? My head?
Yes, it was submitted for review yesterday. Possibly by the person who made your head. Anyway, it was approved back then.

Livid 07-08-2015 08:46 PM
Someone has it out for albie

Albie 07-08-2015 09:10 PM
Quote:
Posted by TD* (Post 589566)
Yes, it was submitted for review yesterday. Possibly by the person who made your head. Anyway, it was approved back then.
It was denied every time. And even if it was approved, why would I of got banned?
I uploaded it twice, don't think that warrants a ban.
But I guess that's how it goes and nothing will change.

http://i.imgur.com/d0hL0KO.png?1
How is grey spiky hair with a headband and mask copyright?
How is that a hat?
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...aw-d81fiyp.jpg
Doesn't resemble this much at all, it took ideas from it. Also, why are there about 5 heads based of copyrighted anime on the default head pages if this isn't allowed.

I'm posting on here because toonslab support is useless.

MrSimons 07-08-2015 09:41 PM
Quote:
Posted by Albie (Post 589546)
And simons, look at the head on the first page. Would you say that it is "readable"
Yes, the only part the would be maybe questionable would be the hair, which could be mistaken for a feather headdress by some people. Regardless though if I was a staff member though I'd deny it since 2/3s of the face is covered by some sort of mask/headband though and the only part actually visible is the eyes.

In my post I was referring more to all the other complaints about heads being denied.

Quote:
Posted by Albie (Post 589588)
http://i.imgur.com/d0hL0KO.png?1
How is grey spiky hair with a headband and mask copyright?
How is that a hat?
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...aw-d81fiyp.jpg
Doesn't resemble this much at all, it took ideas from it. Also, why are there about 5 heads based of copyrighted anime on the default head pages if this isn't allowed.

I'm posting on here because toonslab support is useless.
1. It isn't copyright, nothing on Graal is copyrighted by any other organization; that's just a bull**** excuse to keep an obnoxious amount of fan art out of the game (which i think is perfectly fine)

2. 2/3 of the face is covered by mask leaving only the eyes visible. That is definitely a hat.

3. However useless toonslab is at helping you, Graalians.com will be 10x more useless. This is an unofficial forum, it is advertised here that in game issues will not be solved here (and in most cases any attempt to address those issues will be deleted. Plus, there isn't anyone here who actually has the authority to solve most of your problems... But hey if you think that an unofficial fan forum is a more effective way to get your issues resolved than the official support site then that is your deal I guess...

Albie 07-08-2015 10:11 PM
Quote:
Posted by MrSimons (Post 589598)
Yes, the only part the would be maybe questionable would be the hair, which could be mistaken for a feather headdress by some people. Regardless though if I was a staff member though I'd deny it since 2/3s of the face is covered by some sort of mask/headband though and the only part actually visible is the eyes.

In my post I was referring more to all the other complaints about heads being denied.



1. It isn't copyright, nothing on Graal is copyrighted by any other organization; that's just a bull**** excuse to keep an obnoxious amount of fan art out of the game (which i think is perfectly fine)

2. 2/3 of the face is covered by mask leaving only the eyes visible. That is definitely a hat.

3. However useless toonslab is at helping you, Graalians.com will be 10x more useless. This is an unofficial forum, it is advertised here that in game issues will not be solved here (and in most cases any attempt to address those issues will be deleted. Plus, there isn't anyone here who actually has the authority to solve most of your problems... But hey if you think that an unofficial fan forum is a more effective way to get your issues resolved than the official support site then that is your deal I guess...
1. Agreed
2. It's integrated into the design and would you ban me for that?
3. I'll take my chances on graalians, hopefully someone will give me help on how to get unbanned as toonslab doesn't seem inclined to help.

kenthefruit 07-08-2015 10:16 PM
The hair looks like feathers? O_o?

Toxicturn 07-08-2015 10:58 PM
You were rightfully declined - It's the headband.

http://i.imgur.com/j6IID3w.png

(Notice "Substitute for a hat")

http://i.imgur.com/Rem3PE7.png

(A hat from in game)

looks like a substitute to me.


In addition to that, when I was uploading I was told that all headbands should be denied because it encompasses all Naruto characters so the uploaders don't have to know the characters from the anime.

And if you were continuously sending the same custom over and over even so it's been declined for the same reason - a legitimate reason, then you're going to get banned, it's basically spam.

Dunno why this is a question so often, probably because half the uploaders abide by the rules and half of them don't. So half the people would get the same upload denied and the other would get it approved.

Albie 07-08-2015 11:24 PM
I have the head now, and Naruto did not create the idea of headbands.

I'd appreciate it if someone closed this thread.

Ivy 07-08-2015 11:39 PM
Quote:
Posted by Albie (Post 589628)
Naruto did not create the idea of headbands.

I'd appreciate it if someone closed this thread.
Please

Brick 07-09-2015 02:19 AM
Quote:
Posted by Albie (Post 589604)
I'll take my chances on graalians, hopefully someone will give me help on how to get unbanned as toonslab doesn't seem inclined to help.
Well it looks like you won't get unbanned then, because submitting a ticket to support.toonslab.com is the only way.

Latte 07-09-2015 05:34 AM
The confusion with hats and accessories is a real one, but I'm sure if you removed the headband and replaced it with an in-game headband, you'd get a similar effect you're going for. :)


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