cheating/hacking not being caught.
 

I've notice that there are several players inside and outside the battle arena using slight speed hacks to extremely ridiculous speed hacks while pking/sparring and NOT being CAUGHT.
Why not implement a few patrol staff? I mean letting someone who's speed hacking to knock people off of their streak inside the mixed room is highly unacceptable and looked down upon. Especially when a player has this in their status hoping they will get caught "I am not speed hacker my computer has no virus it fast" (yes a cheating player legitimately has that in their status) It needs to be monitored more often in my opinion I know a tonne of old sparrers and pkers who would volunteer for this immediately. I mean we can't just let these players get an unfair advantage over others using illegal means.

I will agree that I have been seeing more of this lately, and it is kind of annoying.

The problem is that it's pretty hard to tell (especially if someone is increasing their speed incrementally). Tests on the players speed would have to be done, in which case they could always turn off whatever they're using and pass. They could also always just outright refuse to take the test, since nobody can really force anyone to do something like that on graal. A speed detection system was implemented a while ago which was doling out false positives, rendering it ineffective.

I personally wouldn't trust many "known" sparrers and PKers to police it, since ego and blah blah blah gets in the way. I'd rather have Admins spectate spars relatively often and see if anything is fishy. I know I've reported the really obvious speed hackers (flying across the arena in a second) to admins and they've gone unnoticed about 85% of the time.

I'm stumped on the whole issue, honestly.

I'm stumped as well the staff treat it like theres no possible fix for it.

The problem is that the server trust the data from the client.

if we had a spar patrol squad admin position
I would volenteer for that for I lost many good streaks over hackers , one guy had a nukeshot.

I will volunteer too, just as a forgiveness due to my "bad behavior" on some occasions.

Admins aren't always online, and detecting whether or not someone is speed hacking is not always easy. Sometimes it's obvious, other times it's difficult to tell.

As long as it isn't automatically banning players then that shouldn't make it a problem. All it has to do is send a message to RC in an external tab, staff can quite easily warp to the player and see if they are speed hacking or not.

A speed tester would be good eg if you're going faster than normal, an admin teleports to you. If you are truly hacking then you get a ban? idk

how about a warning ahd banning them the use of spar rooms

Problem is that people speed hack in spars at small intervals that are not really trusted as "detectable" by eye, so a scripted system is really the only way
It's very hard to come up with something that doesn't show false positives though

I think classic has an FPS cap.Make a script so that if someone exceeds the FPS cap then the system would automatically ban him/her.

Problem is even if they get banned , they make a new email account and come back with a noob account , even with a ip bann they come back when they change the proxy settings in the web browser(on pc) . There are always ways to evade(to avoid) banns

which can cause false positive ban due to excessive lag I get from my computer. (not gaming ;-;)

Doesn't it shows up on RC when someone goes too fast??

What might be more reliable is a script that detects sword speed/blink speed instead of running speed. Not sure if that would make much of a difference but no harm in brainstorming.

Lag reduces your FPS Not increase them.
The latency you are talking about can be easily overcome by only observing the server wide FPS and not the client side FPS.

I would like to apply to be the new BAO Admin. (Battle Arena Observation). Where do I sign up?

^^^

There's plenty of potential for false positives due to the nature of networks.

There are people speedhacking that are easily detected by eye. Not detectable by eye isn't nearly as big of an issue, though it is still an issue.

Lag is much less likely to create false positives.

When I was an admin, it did, and usually it was correct. Supposedly on iClassic there were a lot of false positives.

There was a speed hacker in Pyrat Bay, believe he was in the guild (Zo), tried reporting for an estimate of 1-2 hours and nothing.

They start with the latest reports and if the Person either goes offline or so most admins (from what I know from iEra, and theres really not such a big difference between iEra and iClassic staff) will just delete the Report because some think the Situation got handled of or theyre just lazy.
But I mean I dont know the iclassic Team so they might be stricter on that.
Probably way stricter somewhat

iEra team is probrably less strict, but does their job very well.
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i think admins bann more non hackers then actual hackers- me for example

or they never read them at all

Going to bump; purely because of this reason.
In the spar room today I qued within 6 minutes I had a match, a player named "Fung Si Yan" using one of thallens slots. I get the first hit and his health shows that he's on "1" already I continue to avoid him and score hits, no health taken off. he stops and pauses, toggles his speed and continues sparring. Still can't hit me toggles his speed again and continues missing. this goes on for a while until he finally beats me. everyone around me claimed to have reported him. he see's this and speeds to the door and to the next room and continuing to ruin people's fun without any staff doing anything about him. I can guarantee 2 outcomes in this case.
1) he continues to go unnoticed.
2) he get's an IP ban uses a VPN and comes back.

i actually beat him once Lol

but yea,he's cheating/hacking/speed hacking

+ god mode

I was sparring a hacker and within 2 minutes she was banned. I guess it depends on what admins are on.

They should server side arrow buttons /s

Graal needs to have something to disconnect the player from the server when Graal is open as well as a cheat / hacking software at the same time. So if someone is on Facebook and has cheat engine open for example, the Graal window automatically notices and disconnects player from server until the other program is closed. This will mean hackers / cheaters can't use programs, I don't know how they would work this but I've seen games do it before.

I wouldn't blame staff for hackers "not getting caught" (and I'm not just being biased because I am one). I'm just saying that normally hackers will mask their IPs, or use proxies, to create noob accounts so that when a staff member sees them and they get banned they can easily just create a new account and their main account wherever it may be won't get harmed.

Most of the time the hackers are banned fairly quick once it's seen the player is hacking, but it's incredibly easy for most computer literate people to get past a ban, make a new account, and continue on with whatever they're doing.

so thats why there is a guy on his main account speeding around spar rooms?
with the guild tag (13) btw

He's been doing this for an hour and doesn't get banned.
Yet I get a warning for saying buttcheek.

"hes a pc" this is all you get from anyone lmao "I'm on pc I do not cheat"

i don't think he hacks

If your not trolling I swear your stupid.

Snow Noob already explained it pretty well. Most of the time the only thing staff can do is ban these players who are hacking, and they can easily come back with noob accounts.

Another thing is that admins aren't always online, and sometimes it is hard to tell if someone is hacking or cheating. At times it can be really obvious, other times we have to watch and see what they do.

Only thing you can do is just report these people. Most of the time we act fast when we see a report about a hacker. The thing is, we aren't aways online, and sometimes the person may not even be hacking.

Who cares guys. Just don't spar them, they will continue wasting their lives having to go through all this process of IP ban evading just to win some spars due to small speed advantages

Everyone seems to think just because someone knows how to speedhack they know how to use a vpn.
I could download cheat engine right now and speed hack.

And in most cases, the hackers aren't on noob accounts.
Not trying to be rude but saying "Most of the time we aren't online" excuse is terrible, that's just saying you either don't have enough admins or have inactive admins. I say there should be spar admins to watch spar, and or more EU admins.

Any active EU sparrer would know lots of hacking takes place in EU day timezones.

Ya he not hackin he laggin bro XD

Watch the start of the spar, tell me you can move that quickly.

Shut up. Oh, I also fixed your grammatical error up there. Dumb f***

lmao are you serious

yea he needs to shut up, i agree.

i have alienware PC i'm not hacking

Dead serious.
Ask anyone who is an active sparrer and tell them to watch the whole video. They'll know what's up. What's your account? I don't really see you in battle arena :0

albie.... i was an active sparer ive never heard/seen you be quiet mmmk

That's because I started on the 20th May.
Also, if you don't think he's hacking you obviously weren't a very observant sparrer.