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Ghettoicedtea 05-14-2015 08:00 PM

Worst servers
 
Ok so i want to know. What servers are just so bad if its p2w, horrible staff, terrible mechanics, player base etc.

For me its a toss up between iera and izone

Igraal hit an all time low with izone because of their new jail system where you can pay 5k graalets to speed up your time. Or just buy a pack. Nothing fresh and new has been released.

Iera. Autsitic community, terrible combat with p2w set up, terrible jobs, broken items, useless content.

Bryan* 05-14-2015 08:04 PM

I think all the servers have their ups and downs. I've yet to find a server that's the perfect one.

Vicipower 05-14-2015 08:11 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 565957)
I think all the servers have their ups and downs. I've yet to find a server that's the perfect one.

No bryan, You'll never return to graal, remember that.
(Well I mean if you already did then Im friggin mad)

WORST SERVER HMM, iEra's community is well, uh.. ye. Ive met a lot of People on there but I only still have contact with 1 Person and that guy is pretty stupid but Ima not judge my friends but yeh.
Most of the weapons are overpriced, lots of Kids who are gonna Insult you out of the blue, you can barely win any Events (when they even host lol, since what I have heard from several admins; they dont wanna host since the Players are just going to Insult and annoy you if you dont host what they want, and well I mean ye.

Clown 05-14-2015 08:14 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 565953)
Iera. Autsitic community, terrible combat with p2w set up, terrible jobs, broken items, useless content.

This. Except replace the word autistic (or autsitic which is ironically how you spelled it) with arrogant

randomuser3954 05-14-2015 08:25 PM

ausickit !!

Wolfie 05-14-2015 09:38 PM

To me, iZone has the best community, but terrible "contents". The tileset is ugly, and they need to stop hiring 20+ ZPs.

While other departmens only have like less than 10

Or 5

Bryan* 05-14-2015 10:35 PM

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Posted by Vicipower (Post 565962)
No bryan, You'll never return to graal, remember that.
(Well I mean if you already did then Im friggin mad


Vici, I think it's been more than a week so far lol. Check me out @ unknown(Comeback).

Shiz 05-14-2015 11:02 PM

Like stated above every server has its ups and downs.

For iEra I hate how the guns cost an extreme amount of gralats while the jobs there are terribly balanced.
Favoritism would probably be another thing.

For iZone I'd say the way staff have handled things in the past, but I think they have gotten better. The tileset could use a huge revamp. I don't mean a change in colors either. I mean an entire new tileset. Cant think of anything else since I don't play it anymore.

Since you did mention playercount I'd say that'd go for Ol' West. Usually on weekends we hit around 500+ and weekdays 300-400, but lately it's been in the 300s due to school exams and whatnot. But I'd say the thing that bothers me right now is how players wont give it a shot again, especially since the last time most tried it out was probably on release and a ton of new things has been released since then. (Outside tiles are being revamped, inside is done.)

I can't think of much for iClassic other than I see a lot of threads about how they lack new content.

Delteria.. well, wheres the iOS at man. :(

5hift 05-14-2015 11:54 PM

iEra.

Must I say more?

Ivy 05-15-2015 12:02 AM

Zone. So boring

MikvaGraal 05-15-2015 12:15 AM

zone

Ghettoicedtea 05-15-2015 12:22 AM

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Posted by Clown (Post 565963)
This. Except replace the word autistic (or autsitic which is ironically how you spelled it) with arrogant

No they legit have high functioning autism, and so does everyone who played iera, including me (explains a lot ik).

Red 05-15-2015 12:37 AM

iera + zone are generally really bad, I don't wanna fork out $200 from mummas credit card for a "BAR" ty.

twilit 05-15-2015 12:51 AM

Era. Zone. Ol West. Delteria.

Red 05-15-2015 12:59 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 566101)
Era. Zone. Ol West. Delteria.

^^^
anything that you need to buy weapons on can sometimes lead to p2w.

Dark Ice Cream 05-15-2015 01:08 AM

Tashkin already said that, no one is up to revamp the tileset which really downed the tileset making. I'll rather pay for the tileset with real money just to get the tileset.

imSupah 05-15-2015 01:52 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 566086)
No they legit have high functioning autism, and so does everyone who played iera, including me (explains a lot ik).

No not everyone who played iEra does. Speak for yourself, not others. There is that small percentage in Era where the community won't treat you or talk to you like crap. It's rare but it's in there.

The worst servers?

Zone due to lack of content and that new jail system that is ******ed. Era due to P2W of getting the best guns and how the job payouts sucks badly. But Classic is it's own little charm and I enjoy Ol'West though I have the most hours on Era with 7k lol.

MrSimons 05-15-2015 01:56 AM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 565988)
To me, iZone has the best community, but terrible "contents". The tileset is ugly, and they need to stop hiring 20+ ZPs.

While other departmens only have like less than 10

Or 5

Unfortunately when hiring Graal Staff, supply vs. demand doesn't work. There is literally nothing that can be done by a server to make more devs appear. I can guarantee you that there is not a single server that is just happily and intentionally hiring a ton of GPs and no devs. It's really obnoxious seeing people pretend that servers love not hiring devs.

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Posted by Dark Ice Cream (Post 566109)
Tashkin already said that, no one is up to revamp the tileset which really downed the tileset making. I'll rather pay for the tileset with real money just to get the tileset.

That was me who said that, Tash was and has always been supportive of a new tileset. I said that Zone doesn't have anyone who could make a better tileset even if they tried.

Dark Ice Cream 05-15-2015 02:26 AM

That's what he said on Zone Insights.

http://i.imgur.com/Bi1rdIy.jpg

Never meant he wasn't supportive, just said that no one volunteered or even up for the tileset making job.

Red 05-15-2015 02:34 AM

You have graphics staff, make it...

Wolfie 05-15-2015 02:53 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 566104)
^^^
anything that you need to buy weapons on can sometimes lead to p2w.

But isn't most of Delteria's good weapons free in dungeons?

Red 05-15-2015 02:55 AM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 566146)
But isn't most of Delteria's good weapons free in dungeons?

idk lmao I don't play delt.

Dark Ice Cream 05-15-2015 03:15 AM

You're terrible in understanding, OG. I already told you, nobody is up for it. You can't just make a tileset without pressure planning.

MrSimons 05-15-2015 04:08 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 566130)
You have graphics staff, make it...

Zone's graphics team is in no way able to make a tileset. As far as I know there is no one there who has ever made a tileset before, would know how, or could if they tried. And if someone there did make a tileset it would end up worse than the current one.

You probably shouldn't talk about stuff you don't know about, because making a tileset really isn't something for an amateur artist to do, it is really something that takes time and dedication. Latte and I have tried to make a tileset (unrelated to zone) before and ended up giving in after a few days, and Latte is a pretty darn good artist, and legions ahead of anyone on Zone's graphics team as far as I'm concerned.

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 566146)
But isn't most of Delteria's good weapons free in dungeons?

Anyone who says delt is pay2win has no idea what pay2win means.

Asaiki 05-15-2015 04:17 AM

zone and era

tashkin il make the tileset for you <3

Dark Ice Cream 05-15-2015 04:29 AM

If anyone who would try making, you may be lucky or as well not.

PumaD 05-15-2015 11:02 AM

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Posted by Dark Ice Cream (Post 566127)
That's what he said on Zone Insights.

http://i.imgur.com/Bi1rdIy.jpg

Never meant he wasn't supportive, just said that no one volunteered or even up for the tileset making job.


rofl. I remember how Legend and I payed some artstudio for a 'real' tileset but never uploaded it. I guess, karma.

Admiral 05-15-2015 11:46 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 566185)
You probably shouldn't talk about stuff you don't know about

This right here is the tl;dr of not just iZone but every server, that devs wished players would understand

GOAT 05-15-2015 03:56 PM

iClassic has to be the worse as of now. Yeah, those graphics ain't helping them at all.

lol :0

BEH0LD iTz SAM 05-17-2015 04:04 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 566185)
Zone's graphics team is in no way able to make a tileset. As far as I know there is no one there who has ever made a tileset before, would know how, or could if they tried. And if someone there did make a tileset it would end up worse than the current one.

You probably shouldn't talk about stuff you don't know about, because making a tileset really isn't something for an amateur artist to do, it is really something that takes time and dedication. Latte and I have tried to make a tileset (unrelated to zone) before and ended up giving in after a few days, and Latte is a pretty darn good artist, and legions ahead of anyone on Zone's graphics team as far as I'm concerned.


Anyone who says delt is pay2win has no idea what pay2win means.


Try do it bit by bit. The whole tileset doesn't need to be revamped, just some bits. You could start off by changing the colour of some of the tiles, (that was my biggest issue, as the blue/light grey city floating in the blue sky really didn't match, maybe try adding some black/grey buildings or changing the sky to space) then start fixing up the shading on others. You don't need to redo it fro, scratch. When era got its tileset updated, it wasn't the entire thing, it started with just the roads/footpaths, then the sand, grass and water, then the trees, and that's pretty much all that was changed, and it still made a big improvement

Your first step could be just redoing the water, sand, grass and dirt since they are single tiles and would be fairly easy to redo compared to the building tiles. (And because they look pretty horrible, especially the water contrasted with the sand) Then you could update the trees. Those alone would change the look of the map quite alot

MrSimons 05-17-2015 04:10 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 567020)
Try do it bit by bit. The whole tileset doesn't need to be revamped, just some bits. You could start off by changing the colour of some of the tiles, (that was my biggest issue, as the blue/light grey city floating in the blue sky really didn't match, maybe try adding some black/grey buildings or changing the sky to space) then start fixing up the shading on others. You don't need to redo it fro, scratch. When era got its tileset updated, it wasn't the entire thing, it started with just the roads/footpaths, then the sand, grass and water, then the trees, and that's pretty much all that was changed, and it still made a big improvement

Your first step could be just redoing the water, sand, grass and dirt since they are single tiles and would be fairly easy to redo compared to the building tiles. (And because they look pretty horrible, especially the water contrasted with the sand) Then you could update the trees. Those alone would change the look of the map quite alot

Don't tell me, I dont work there. Although personally I do not think that is the best way to go about changing a tileset.

Ghettoicedtea 05-17-2015 05:08 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 567028)
Don't tell me, I dont work there. Although personally I do not think that is the best way to go about changing a tileset.

it is when its the only option

MrSimons 05-17-2015 05:55 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 567045)
it is when its the only option

I don't see how when making a full tileset that is any better, especially when the whole server needs a revamp. The problem isn't bad colors or whatever niche things people complain about when it comes to the tileset. Its the ****ing skymall. When you have a whole world founded in a way you cannot change small factors without an entire revamp, you can't just knock little things out of the way one by one over the course of a year or more. It needs to be released at once. Zone's problem when it comes to their gmap and tileset is they cannot change anything without having everything redone.

Making prettier grass or water tiles isn't a problem. I bet most of their team could do that right now. But when you look at the big picture, that won't change a damn thing about the server. Who gives a **** if their grass looks good if the rest of the world is handicapped? They can't make different buildings because NO pixel artist can match the style of the current tileset. And they really proved that with the casino building. Its as simple as that.

Reno 05-17-2015 12:02 PM

I can't see why Cyberjouers couldn't pay for a new tileset for Zone if it's really that bad. A tileset costs like a few hundred dollars from a pixel artist?

I think the current worst PC server could be Unholy Nation just because it feels lifeless to me. It used to be the bee's knees.

The worst iServer would be Zone, because of the decisions they've made about direction. The server idea is fantastic, I just think the direction was lacklustre.

Asaiki 05-17-2015 12:04 PM

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Posted by Reno (Post 567122)
I can't see why Cyberjouers couldn't pay for a new tileset for Zone if it's really that bad. A tileset costs like a few hundred dollars from a pixel artist?

I think the current worst PC server could be Unholy Nation just because it feels lifeless to me. It used to be the bee's knees.

The worst iServer would be Zone, because of the decisions they've made about direction. The server idea is fantastic, I just think the direction was lacklustre.

Preach!

MBK 05-20-2015 06:28 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 566104)
^^^
anything that you need to buy weapons on can sometimes lead to p2w.

Everytime*

Jellybeans 05-20-2015 06:38 AM

Saying everyone in iEra has autism is kind of mean.

Dark Ice Cream 05-20-2015 06:52 AM

Some of them are, actually a fraction of them doesn't have. Most of them are ruthless, destructive and immersive

Ghettoicedtea 05-20-2015 07:06 AM

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Posted by Jellybeans (Post 568550)
Saying everyone in iEra has autism is kind of mean.

They do, anyone who has spent over 10 hours or spent money on that game has been diagnosed with autism.

Jellybeans 05-20-2015 07:11 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 568555)
They do, anyone who has spent over 10 hours or spent money on that game has been diagnosed with autism.

That's bs and you know it. There's no way every single person on that server has been diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder. Do you have proof? Or did you just assume? Or are you kidding? Hmm, who knows.

Cookie Xanadu 05-20-2015 10:42 AM

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Posted by Jellybeans (Post 568558)
That's bs and you know it. There's no way every single person on that server has been diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder. Do you have proof? Or did you just assume? Or are you kidding? Hmm, who knows.

Someone sounds very mad :'(


Worst server is iEra because of lackluster explosives, horrible payouts and extreme P2W

Ivy 05-20-2015 10:59 AM

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Posted by Jellybeans (Post 568558)
That's bs and you know it. There's no way every single person on that server has been diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder. Do you have proof? Or did you just assume? Or are you kidding? Hmm, who knows.

I really wish I could rep you.

Goddess 05-20-2015 02:10 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 565953)
Ok so i want to know. What servers are just so bad if its p2w, horrible staff, terrible mechanics, player base etc.

For me its a toss up between iera and izone

Igraal hit an all time low with izone because of their new jail system where you can pay 5k graalets to speed up your time. Or just buy a pack. Nothing fresh and new has been released.

Iera. Autsitic community, terrible combat with p2w set up, terrible jobs, broken items, useless content.

Best Server = UN/N-Pulse PC
Worst Server = iEra

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 568555)
They do, anyone who has spent over 10 hours or spent money on that game has been diagnosed with autism.

pls drink bleach, that was probably one of the most insensitive things ive seen

Admiral 05-20-2015 02:18 PM

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Posted by Goddess (Post 568602)
pls drink bleach, that was probably one of the most insensitive things ive seen

yeah he should drink bleach for saying that!!!!!!

lucas. 05-20-2015 04:31 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 568555)
They do, anyone who has spent over 10 hours or spent money on that game has been diagnosed with autism.

Including you.

fsh 05-20-2015 04:59 PM

as everyone has already stated I'm really dissapointed with iZone's development and "direction" (if there is any at this point)
dissapointed in Delteria, for not.. really going anywhere
tbh i havent given Ol' West another go since release
iEra's community is disgusting and repulsive, and the extreme favoritism through staff actions are pretty lame, i have seen very talented developement members though

Hugop 05-20-2015 05:13 PM

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Posted by Wolfie (Post 565988)
they need to stop hiring 20+ ZPs.

But the other servers have 20+ patrols too!

Thallen 05-20-2015 05:55 PM

every server that is not iClassic, for all reasons already mentioned

Dark Ice Cream 05-21-2015 02:52 AM

We do not have 20+ ZPs, we have only 1 ZP Admin, 3 ZP Captain, 7 ZPs and 1 ZP Cadet

Most of them are active, despite from having school and vacations.

Ghettoicedtea 05-21-2015 04:07 AM

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Posted by lucas. (Post 568645)
Including you.

correct. Also i dunno why you are all telling me to drink bleach etc, the first step to curing autism is admitting you have autism.

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Posted by Dark Ice Cream (Post 568823)
We do not have 20+ ZPs, we have only 1 ZP Admin, 3 ZP Captain, 7 ZPs and 1 ZP Cadet

Most of them are active, despite from having school and vacations.

sitting in start AFK is not active


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