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randomuser3954 05-09-2015 09:04 PM

Who is Pachuka?
 
I've heard lots about him, I just can't really find much about who he is. :0

Zetectic 05-09-2015 09:11 PM

never heard about him, not even once

randomuser3954 05-09-2015 09:14 PM

Pretty sure he hacked things. Other than that I know nothing

Thallen 05-09-2015 09:20 PM

old hacker

MrSimons 05-13-2015 04:25 PM

Blueh gave me a link awhile ago that had a ton of info on him,probably would be able to find it.

Defalt 05-13-2015 10:44 PM

I would also be interested, MrSimons. I like Graal's history and would love to read the comment on an old Graal Hacker.

Kendama 05-14-2015 02:31 AM

I bet Pachuka is a person.
I also bet he/she lives in a country.

MrSimons 05-14-2015 04:51 AM

The link I had was to his website, which is no longer up. Its nothing interesting really, it's really something you could be better off without reading. He doesn't appear to be the most respectable of people.

Brick 05-14-2015 06:13 AM

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MBK 05-14-2015 07:14 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 565595)

Where are you standing in this image?

randomuser3954 05-14-2015 07:18 AM

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Posted by MBK (Post 565616)
Where are you standing in this image?

It's Angel Clan church.

MBK 05-16-2015 03:40 PM

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Posted by randomuser3954 (Post 565618)
It's Angel Clan church.

Angel Clan had a church.Wow

Xeria 05-16-2015 04:39 PM

He's an old hacker.

And yeah, Pachuka is the "god of mischief" according to the sign in the Angel Clan church.

5hift 05-16-2015 06:33 PM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 565528)
I bet Pachuka is a person.
I also bet he/she lives in a country.

Is actually alien creature with 7 arms and legs and is actually a resident of an uninhabited moon 400 lightyears away..

deadowl 05-17-2015 03:55 AM

Contributed a lot to Graal
Hacked Graal
Graal became Pay2Play
Hacked Graal
Banned from Graal
Sued Graal
His contributions removed from Graal
Hacked Graal
Banned again from Graal
Hacked Graal
Banned again from Graal
(this was an ongoing pattern with different accounts up to at least 2004...)

Created the Website Sonic CulT: http://info.sonicretro.org/PACHUKA

Based on what I've read, he has faced allegations of child molestation, and was allegedly convicted of sexual assault of a minor. The supposed arrest was in January 2005. There's plenty of circumstantial evidence on the web to back this up, but I haven't come up with a smoking gun personally. Supposedly his publicized work with Sonic beta testing proved to be a smoking gun in the past.

FYI: I requested my previous post be deleted because of a link that contained porn ads that I wasn't aware of.

Defalt 05-17-2015 09:37 AM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 567019)
Contributed a lot to Graal
Hacked Graal
Graal became Pay2Play
Hacked Graal
Banned from Graal
Sued Graal
His contributions removed from Graal
Hacked Graal
Banned again from Graal
Hacked Graal
Banned again from Graal
(this was an ongoing pattern with different accounts up to at least 2004...)

Created the Website Sonic CulT: http://info.sonicretro.org/PACHUKA

Based on what I've read, he has faced allegations of child molestation, and was allegedly convicted of sexual assault of a minor. The supposed arrest was in January 2005. There's plenty of circumstantial evidence on the web to back this up, but I haven't come up with a smoking gun personally. Supposedly his publicized work with Sonic beta testing proved to be a smoking gun in the past.

FYI: I requested my previous post be deleted because of a link that contained porn ads that I wasn't aware of.

Thanks for this post, it was very interesting. :)

Conquest 08-02-2015 04:33 PM

PACHUKA was a very creative & talented man in 1998-1999, but had a lot of inner storms & was absolutely out to cause mischief. He was one of the original Level Administrators, and would wear the PACHUKA head which at the time was inaccessible. He walked around with the guildtag name "(PACHUKA)" to show off his administrative skills; I would chitchat with him in the IRC channel and once joined his "Graal Hackers" guild he created while simultaneously he being the Levels Administrator. I really wanted to be like PACHUKA at the time; he had some really creative and original levels in the game, but shortly after in 1.1 he quit due to disagreements in the staff & threatened to sue Unixmad to remove all of his content. Pay2Play was not for another 2 years later.

zowie 08-02-2015 05:41 PM

wow it's antago, I remember hearing legends about a famous 12 year old scripter or something when I used to play. Now here you are all grown up ^^

Draenin 08-02-2015 10:06 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 599730)
PACHUKA was a very creative & talented man in 1998-1999, but had a lot of inner storms & was absolutely out to cause mischief. He was one of the original Level Administrators, and would wear the PACHUKA head which at the time was inaccessible. He walked around with the guildtag name "(PACHUKA)" to show off his administrative skills; I would chitchat with him in the IRC channel and once joined his "Graal Hackers" guild he created while simultaneously he being the Levels Administrator. I really wanted to be like PACHUKA at the time; he had some really creative and original levels in the game, but shortly after in 1.1 he quit due to disagreements in the staff & threatened to sue Unixmad to remove all of his content. Pay2Play was not for another 2 years later.

Nice to see you back. =]

rickclops 08-05-2015 09:04 PM

Pachuka was a friend of mine in 98. He was a hacker and was known as a trouble maker along with Azrael. They were really bad choices for admins, but Stefan made them the first in game admins. Pachuka made a good amount of levels, but Azrael and him were better known at the time for pking players and sending them to a hell level where they died over and over from fire. For a short amount of time they made the game unplayable. Also, I believe Pachuka was the first player to get pissed about not getting paid for his LAT work and sued cyberjeuer to have his levels removed. I only remember him creating the Rainbow pyramid and Graal castle.

I was kind of annoyed he put graal castle over my baddy fort, but he put an npc of me in it and the levels were actually better. After Graal stopped using the zelda overworld map as the level set, there was a brief time when graal had no levels. You could host a graal server on your own computer using your own levels. Several of my friends sent me their levels and I put together a map joining all of their levels together. I temporarily hosted graal from my computer.

I found out Pachuka submitted this map and almost immediately afterward became an admin. I was pissed about that for a long time. There are and uncountable amount of instances of people taking credit for others work in Graal though. That's partly what the game is about. :p

zowie 08-05-2015 09:18 PM

I recently played through some of Pachuka's levels.

They sucked. And the spelling was awful.

By the way, I have always admired the music in Graal. Did Stefan do the music?

Conquest 08-05-2015 09:43 PM

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Posted by zowie (Post 601272)
I recently played through some of Pachuka's levels.

They sucked. And the spelling was awful.

By the way, I have always admired the music in Graal. Did Stefan do the music?

No; PACHUKA's levels did not suck. They were extremely enchanted and creative, especially considering the extremely low quality of tools & experience anyone had at the time (1998/early 99). He had an uncanny way of turning mischief & chaos into an interesting aspect of the game itself.

PACHUKA & Azrael wore their own heads that they had made their self; these heads were inaccessible, again, as mentioned earlier (to compete I claimed the thief head, but anyone could access it and at the time I always thought his devil helmet was SWEEET). They wore clothing no one else could get, horses no one else could have, guild tags featuring their names and carried NPCs that followed them which gave them an in-game godlike presence, mystique, & power (especially considering there were only 20 other heads to choose from, 5 horses, and a certain number of clothes color combinations available).

At the time, the game was pretty peaceful and full of strange levels & quests to learn from—but very occasionally (once or twice a week, if that) PACHUKA & Azrael would be online, and all hell would break loose; they would carry a leafy floor tile and other bizarre NPCs that setoff bombs that randomly built up and blew up the entire levels they were in, arrows shooting everywhere, auto-kills, sword of death, etc.

He ended up not liking me during his administration; I found out ways to hack the sword of death, 20 full hearts, etc. and was perhaps the only person to ever PK him during his peak of mischief where he was nearly invincible.

During the end of his reign, he released a ton of new creative levels to the southern map and things were really beginning to lookup for Graal; he made a very strange quest to collect "the black Graal", and wrote a poem to lead the way. At the time, he was the only person with the black Graal and truthfully the only person ever with the real black Graal; it followed him around and when he threw it killed everyone in the room.

I searched for the black Graal & analyzed the poem (which was actually quite good), but to my knowledge that b*stard made it unobtainable. I finally found it in some of the offline levels once the latest levels pack was released, which was after he left; and I recall at one time heckling him about the black Graal—for some reason me & him would heckle each other from time to time & chase each other around while I battled his administrative powers with hacks—and he claimed only he could get it. In a sense I suppose we were frenemies; I claimed myself the "God of Gravity" and he claimed I was not a god—to which I informed him in fact I was (and Galen gave me the guild tag to prove it)—and on various occasions this dude actually blasted me in the official Graal news on graalonline.com.

A year later I replaced his southern map with Destiny & proved that in fact I was indeed the 7th god—the God of Gravity. At this time we had become actual friends rather than frenemies online before his whole spout with California justice.

Nanner 08-05-2015 09:54 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 601283)
No; PACHUKA's levels did not suck. They were extremely enchanted and creative, especially considering the extremely low quality of tools & experience anyone had at the time (1998/early 99). He had an uncanny way of turning mischief & chaos into an interesting aspect of the game itself.

PACHUKA & Azrael wore their own heads that they had made their self; these heads were inaccessible, again, as mentioned earlier (to compete I claimed the thief head, but anyone could access it and at the time I always thought his devil helmet was SWEEET). They wore clothing no one else could get, horses no one else could have, guild tags featuring their names and carried NPCs that followed them which gave them an in-game godlike presence, mystique, & power (especially considering there were only 20 other heads to choose from, 5 horses, and a certain number of clothes color combinations available).

At the time, the game was pretty peaceful and full of strange levels & quests to learn from—but very occasionally (once or twice a week, if that) PACHUKA & Azrael would be online, and all hell would break loose; they would carry a leafy floor tile and other bizarre NPCs that setoff bombs that randomly built up and blew up the entire levels they were in, arrows shooting everywhere, auto-kills, sword of death, etc.

He ended up not liking me during his administration; I found out ways to hack the sword of death, 20 full hearts, etc. and was perhaps the only person to ever PK him during his peak of mischief where he was nearly invincible.

During the end of his reign, he released a ton of new creative levels to the southern map and things were really beginning to lookup for Graal; he made a very strange quest to collect "the black Graal", and wrote a poem to lead the way. At the time, he was the only person with the black Graal and truthfully the only person ever with the real black Graal; it followed him around and when he threw it killed everyone in the room.

I searched for the black Graal & analyzed the poem (which was actually quite good), but to my knowledge that b*stard made it unobtainable. I finally found it in some of the offline levels once the latest levels pack was released, which was after he left; and I recall at one time heckling him about the black Graal—for some reason me & him would heckle each other from time to time & chase each other around while I battled his administrative powers with hacks—and he claimed only he could get it. In a sense I suppose we were frenemies; I claimed myself the "God of Gravity" and he claimed I was not a god—to which I informed him in fact I was (and Galen gave me the guild tag to prove it)—and on various occasions this dude actually blasted me in the official Graal news on graalonline.com.

A year later I replaced his southern map with Destiny & proved that in fact I was indeed the 7th god—the God of Gravity. At this time we had become actual friends rather than frenemies online before his whole spout with California justice.

Interesting read

Zetectic 08-05-2015 10:01 PM

damn what the hell. where did u guys all came from? all the oldbies came out of nowhere and talking about early 1998-2001. wut the time when i was 1yr old gg

Neil 08-05-2015 10:01 PM

Pyscher made the music for snowtown in iclassic. He is registered on here

Aguzo 08-06-2015 05:25 AM

Never trust a person with a fake pokemon name.

kenthefruit 08-06-2015 06:24 AM

He sounds like a real winner

contego 08-06-2015 03:01 PM

I remember PACHUKA but tried to stay away because was scared of his rep. Although I was friends with his gf Lycia =p and she was in TAW with me in late '98 early on and off.

But I also remember the Angel Clan church because a lot of PK went on and guild wars in Angel Clan and we'd go in the church to break. It was across the bridge (opposite side of the exit) top right corner of Angel Clan above the pool.

Crono 08-06-2015 03:33 PM

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Posted by contego (Post 601520)
I remember PACHUKA but tried to stay away because was scared of his rep. Although I was friends with his gf Lycia =p and she was in TAW with me in late '98 early on and off.

But I also remember the Angel Clan church because a lot of PK went on and guild wars in Angel Clan and we'd go in the church to break. It was across the bridge (opposite side of the exit) top right corner of Angel Clan above the pool.

wasnt lycia the infamous whale?

Conquest 08-06-2015 03:35 PM

I really don't think you played Graal in '98—or '99 for that matter. But I'll just say that Lycia didn't come 'til the end of '99, and we were good friends; she never played with PACHUKA. I don't recall Lycia in her early days ever being a part of a clan called "TAW"; she was a member of the Baddies, which at the time I was co-managing with Gandarian.

Crono 08-06-2015 03:36 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 601531)
I really don't think you played Graal in '98—or '99 for that matter. But I'll just say that Lycia didn't come 'til the end of '99, and we were good friends; she never played with PACHUKA. I don't recall Lycia in her early days ever being a part of a clan called "TAW"; she was a member of the Baddies, which at the time I was co-managing with Gandarian.

I never claimed to be from the 90's, I started September 2000.

Conquest 08-06-2015 03:38 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 601532)
I never claimed to be from the 90's, I started September 2000.

Sorry that was directed at Contego, who also claims to "remember me" because I "had an NPC", despite the fact that I was the GP chief, LAT admin, GFX admin, ran the first playerworld, and among many other iconic roles.

Crono 08-06-2015 03:44 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 601535)
Sorry that was directed at Contego, who also claims to "remember me" because I "had an NPC", despite the fact that I was the GP chief, LAT admin, GFX admin, ran the first playerworld, and among many other iconic roles.

Think he went by Xena back then.

Conquest 08-06-2015 04:04 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 601536)
Think he went by Xena back then.

So he claims, but I don't really remember a Xena either, and there weren't many players during these times. I don't know everything that went on but I have a memory of the stuff that mattered. Let me go on record and say that I don't even know why I joined the Baddies. For friendship. I was also in Jesus Freaks, which I identified more with. The Baddies had a bad reputation and were there from the beginning. I loved their talent, power, kinship, creativity; please don't associate me with the "bad" of the Baddies. I love all the guilds. I don't remember how long this went on but it was for a while then one day Vangel was like, "YOU'RE IN THE BADDIES?" I was like, "I finally became manager." He was like, "YOU CAN'T BE IN BOTH!" I had a high status in JF. I joined JF first, though, and had a good relationship with them, so technically I guess I was never a baddie … Imagine that, the Baddies—the most notorious Graal guild of all time—ran by a rogue. Both guilds had wonderful people, so it was worth it :-)

contego 08-06-2015 05:03 PM

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Posted by antago (Post 601535)
Sorry that was directed at Contego, who also claims to "remember me" because I "had an NPC", despite the fact that I was the GP chief, LAT admin, GFX admin, ran the first playerworld, and among many other iconic roles.

Yes I started in late '98. I quit sparring by late 2000 and was at my best in late '99.

Zetectic 08-06-2015 07:38 PM

Let's all get along lol
good to know about the old graal history, but arguing about something that happened back in when i was just a newborn baby isn't really helping.

rickclops 08-06-2015 08:52 PM

I remember Gandarian being leader of Baddies in 99. (I don't recall Antago having a high rank) I don't think I knew Antago personally, he was a LAT or something who expanded the size of the Graal map by a lot. I don't know which year that was. I know for sure I met Xena/Contego with Killermech in 2000. I didn't know him before that. C Style was the height of Graal sparring in 99, so no one was great yet? Also, I found the peak of Contego's sparring.

http://teral.8m.net/spar_3_2_01.html

Around when this tournament happened.

Pachuka was only in Graal until 99 so there isn't much to say about him. He did tell me he played Graal in when it first went online. I didn't play until August becauase the site wasn't working for me.

contego 08-06-2015 09:38 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 601696)
I remember Gandarian being leader of Baddies in 99. (I don't recall Antago having a high rank) I don't think I knew Antago personally, he was a LAT or something who expanded the size of the Graal map by a lot. I don't know which year that was. I know for sure I met Xena/Contego with Killermech in 2000. I didn't know him before that. C Style was the height of Graal sparring in 99, so no one was great yet? Also, I found the peak of Contego's sparring.

http://teral.8m.net/spar_3_2_01.html

Around when this tournament happened.

Pachuka was only in Graal until 99 so there isn't much to say about him. He did tell me he played Graal in when it first went online. I didn't play until August becauase the site wasn't working for me.

Those images and commentary are by James205 and I believe this was in 2000, probably late summer. The term "c style" (not sure who named it) was something I used to tell NoMaD and Golden Slayer when I was training them to spar; "most ppl do that style when sparring".

Also suggested to try going in straight line attacks but pretend they are doing "C" so we called it the "E". Anyway many people were good then and are now just becomes about who is liked, respected, or just the loudest to get any "real" recognition.

rickclops 08-07-2015 04:32 AM

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Posted by antago (Post 601535)
despite the fact that I was the GP chief, LAT admin, GFX admin, ran the first playerworld, and among many other iconic roles.

Ran the first playerworld? What? Do you mean you were manager of classic at some point?

Thallen 08-07-2015 04:36 AM

can ya'll stop calling me old now that these fkers are here

Yumphod 08-07-2015 06:46 AM

lmao imagine being so addicted to grail that ur still tockng about ur exploits in the late 90s

Crono 08-07-2015 11:29 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 601830)
can ya'll stop calling me old now that these fkers are here

we are like 13 in comparison

Aguzo 08-07-2015 01:33 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 601950)
we are like 13 in comparison

No, that would make me what? 8?

They are fossils, and you are on the verge of extinction.

Conquest 08-07-2015 02:45 PM

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Posted by rickclops (Post 601696)
I remember Gandarian being leader of Baddies in 99. (I don't recall Antago having a high rank) I don't think I knew Antago personally, he was a LAT or something who expanded the size of the Graal map by a lot. I don't know which year that was. I know for sure I met Xena/Contego with Killermech in 2000. I didn't know him before that. C Style was the height of Graal sparring in 99, so no one was great yet? Also, I found the peak of Contego's sparring.

My status in the Baddies actually opened up a lot of doors for me (and vice versa, as I had a lot of power and the Baddies had the players). In a sense we used each other.

I pretty much never wore a guild tag for any of the guilds mainly because I saw guilds as an opportunity not as an identity … Including the JF tag, although again there I had a high status and they did a lot of big favors for me. I think at the time I didn't realize how important guilds played a role; Gandarian actually programmed a number of NPCs including the first edition of the trident; Darkman programmed several NPCs including the original bomy-bopot (the animal, not the playable race). A number of features I had been pushing for had the support of the Baddies, as Darkman's coding favors initially allowed me to wave the bomy-bopots around Stefan to create the NPC Server for us.

I don't recall much about King Clops myself, except that at one point I believed you did a cameo on my G-Server for some animated plays. Other than that, you were always very much a background player.

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Posted by rickclops (Post 601827)
Ran the first playerworld? What? Do you mean you were manager of classic at some point?

The first official Graal supported playerworlds were originally portals you could enter through houses in Onett town; Destiny was originally the first official Graal playerworld experiment where they gave entire control over to a player and you could enter it through my house in Onett town. They were upset because this "experiment" went wrong when, as usual, I pulled some shenanigan like adding the notorious globe NPC that was pretty much PACHUKA & Azrael's floor tile (that followed them around) and black Graal squared because it allowed me to wreak 10 times more chaos due to the coding capabilities at the time. I figured out by carrying NPCs between levels I could do whatever the hell I wanted in Destiny and bring it over into the classic main world. If I recall correctly I lost my playerworld because "this was supposed to be an experiment and I proved players were untrustworthy"; they quickly forgave me and I moved Destiny to the main server with fireworks on July 4th, 2000. We continued working closely together so that 6 months later in 2001 we released Graal2001 where official playerworlds were purchased and listed in the startup menu.

contego 08-07-2015 03:51 PM

@antago in 2001 servers were not sold. Stefan allowed people to make servers but wouldn't put it on the start up menu without approval of testers/himself.

I released the server Shaded Legend with Tyriel (he used a different account name before SL was released) on 03/2001 on the start up menu and did not ever have to pay.

Later in June of 2001 I became a "global" but official title was Accounts Administrator and then by late summer of '01 to '03 I was Game Master "with" unixmad but for NA (North America). Which didn't make sense because unixmad basically just spoke to me on ICQ to get updated on what was going on once a month and did not actually do any labor or assist at all. A couple times Stefan, unix, and me had to speak on the phone but at that time it was very expensive so we limited our phone conversations.

The actual time volunteered helping Graal as a brand for 18 hours a day and all pro bono is insane. In 2001 Graal had a spike in the players and I was manually creating accounts via [email protected] and handling any password issues. The website had issues automatically creating accounts so I had to manually create each one. Thousands of e-mails were coming in a day and I replied to each one personally. Also had [email protected] and would have to go around playerworlds dealing with "Owners" who would ban guilds because they could. It was basically a dictatorship and we had no structure.
Eventually I recommended to Stefan that we change "Owner" of playerworlds to "Manager" because people believed they actually owned the server and copy rights. We also created "Playerworld Administration" because I couldn't handle all the work load of approving, uploading and removing servers.

Conquest 08-07-2015 04:56 PM

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Posted by contego (Post 602010)
@antago in 2001 servers were not sold. Stefan allowed people to make servers but wouldn't put it on the start up menu without approval of testers/himself.

I released the server Shaded Legend with Tyriel (he used a different account name before SL was released) on 03/2001 on the start up menu and did not ever have to pay.

I really doubt you opened a server on 03/2001 considering we didn't launch Graal2k1 until mid February 2001, and to my knowledge there were certainly not other servers especially not two weeks after we released this version. Please, if you're going to give specific dates to everything—make sure you got your facts straight.

You had to own a gold account to release a server at the time as well, which was pretty much the only perk to owning a gold account if I recall correctly, and if I especially recall correctly, new servers were not allowed nor did they start start popping up until later 2001 (or early 2002) when the feature was made available. These details I am hazy on as I officially quit my position as Game Master in mid March or April.

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Posted by contego (Post 602010)
Later in June of 2001 I became a "global" but official title was Accounts Administrator and then by late summer of '01 to '03 I was Game Master "with" unixmad but for NA (North America). Which didn't make sense because unixmad basically just spoke to me on ICQ to get updated on what was going on once a month and did not actually do any labor or assist at all. A couple times Stefan, unix, and me had to speak on the phone but at that time it was very expensive so we limited our phone conversations.

I'll assume this may be true. Your other dates on things are very off, however.

contego 08-07-2015 05:10 PM

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...=Shaded+Legend

That is when James205 was manager after I left 5 months later. I am not here to prove anything to you antago so maybe you should do some research before you try to call people out instead of looking like.. what's a nice way of saying ass?

Also the problem with most staff is they always called it a "position of power" whereas my mindset has always been a "position of responsibility". Certainly I had full FTP access and one of the last Level 5 RC's. (Same access as Stefan and unix). I had to sign a contract.

Conquest 08-07-2015 05:17 PM

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Posted by contego (Post 602031)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...=Shaded+Legend

That is when James205 was manager after I left 5 months later. I am not here to prove anything to you antago so maybe you should do some research before you try to call people out instead of looking like.. what's a nice way of saying ass?

Also the problem with most staff is they always called it a "position of power" whereas my mindset has always been a "position of responsibility". Certainly I had full FTP access and one of the last Level 5 RC's. (Same access as Stefan and unix). I had to sign a contract.

Dude, I don't believe your claims and none of your facts match up. You keep spewing out random SPECIFIC DATES and SPECIFIC TIMES, name dropping, over exaggerating common references to places in the game (and FYI all these levels are available in online archives), and claiming positions of power, guilds, and servers that do not match up with your time. Sending a link to some random thread and then claiming an imaginary "5 months" period in reference to it and calling me an ass doesn't hold up. It wouldn't hold up in court, it doesn't hold up in archives, and it doesn't hold up to anyone with 2 ounces of sensibility—and frankly, your name is supsiciously similar to mine. You probably joined Graal in 2001, and you earned some position of power in the summer or later; that is my assumption. Whether or not my assumptions are accurate, that is not the point; the point is that you are botching history to suit your ego.

You did not join the game in 1998, and you did not own your own playerworld server 1 month after we launched Graal2001. We were all extremely swamped and busy with handling things, and quite frankly while you claim it is "I" who am arguing with you, it is in fact you who are arguing with me considering I was friends with every admin and worked incredibly hard 8+ hours a day for 2 whole years, and none of these facts you are claiming about my friends, about yourself, or about this beloved game match up so just stop.

Let me also say that I don't give a flying **** about you "being a little angel and calling your position a position of responsibility and not power hehehe"; this does not make you an honest person.

contego 08-07-2015 05:43 PM

"I played on SL for a long time! But I never saw any tile error's! And one time I saw James205 show some guy his (lil) error and he made him fix it! Soo I am not dissing there PW because it's the most origanal one out there."

A post on that thread by wetferret.

None of my dates match up you got me good.

I believe you've already been called obnoxious, take a hint.

Oh look another post in July 2001. Scalper took over for manager after I left in June as I said.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ead.php?t=6532

I guess saying I uploaded it in March doesn't match up yet.

Conquest 08-07-2015 05:45 PM

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Posted by contego (Post 602039)
"I played on SL for a long time! But I never saw any tile error's! And one time I saw James205 show some guy his (lil) error and he made him fix it! Soo I am not dissing there PW because it's the most origanal one out there."

A post on that thread by wetferret.

None of my dates match up you got me good.

I believe you've already been called obnoxious, take a hint.

Look dude, I don't even care. You can argue all the **** you want; I 100% don't care. You've already claimed Lycia played Graal with you at the end of 1998, which is the very beginning of Graal; since you are obviously hellbent on botching facts to re-establish a history in your favor to the total and utter disrespect of what I know to be true—have at it. I'm done. I've argued with pathological liars before, and they simply don't care about how their lies conflict with the spirit & experiences of others and will argue to the absolute death about it rather than face being exposed.

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Posted by contego (Post 602039)
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ead.php?t=6532

I guess saying I uploaded it in March doesn't match up yet.

The fact that you are referencing posts from July & August of 2001 as "PROOOOOOF" that I am a bumbling ass and an idiot while you "CLEARLY opened a playerworld in March" right after we launched P2P just shows how cunningly ridiculous you are. Goodbye


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