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Vladamir Blackthorne 04-14-2015 05:59 AM

Respawning in PK
 
Okay, so the whole respawning part of player killing is kinda what breaks it into a huge mess. Respawning exactly where you were when you died just kinda sucks for the killer because A the kill-ee usually retaliates from full health vs the killer's damaged health and B if you kill someone because they are in the way it solves nothing.

I propose that dying in the overworld sends you to a central location at the nearest town/city.

Aguzo 04-14-2015 06:09 AM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 553956)
Okay, so the whole respawning part of player killing is kinda what breaks it into a huge mess. Respawning exactly where you were when you died just kinda sucks for the killer because A the kill-ee usually retaliates from full health vs the killer's damaged health and B if you kill someone because they are in the way it solves nothing.

I propose that dying in the overworld sends you to a central location at the nearest town/city.

You mean like era? No thanks, you only have 6 hp. Plus, it's not as easy to heal, because of the ap system so... I don't agree.

Dusty 04-14-2015 06:38 AM

I was working on a respawn system that spawned you in the nearest house, or in the last non-pk zone you were in.

Of course it couldn't be done due to the same problem CTF had... Graal just doesn't like messing with players whom are dead.

MrSimons 04-14-2015 07:01 AM

I hate any sort of idea like that, there is nothing that'd piss me off more than dying and being warped to somewhere then having to go all the way back to where I was. It is too easy to die on classic making that sort of thing really obnoxious.

Personally I love iClassic's current system for pk, very simple and easy.

Seņor Albonio 04-14-2015 07:05 AM

That system is the reason I hate Era.

Vic 04-14-2015 12:44 PM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 553979)
That system is the reason I hate Era.

Yes

Distorted 04-14-2015 01:55 PM

You want guns, and a new respawning system? Go play.

Neil 04-14-2015 02:17 PM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 553979)
That system is the reason I hate Era.

yes!

Sardon 04-14-2015 03:20 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 553956)
Okay, so the whole respawning part of player killing is kinda what breaks it into a huge mess. Respawning exactly where you were when you died just kinda sucks for the killer because A the kill-ee usually retaliates from full health vs the killer's damaged health and B if you kill someone because they are in the way it solves nothing.

I propose that dying in the overworld sends you to a central location at the nearest town/city.

go back to era demon

I like how things are

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 553979)
That system is the reason I hate Era.

i agree and the p2w

Admiral 04-14-2015 03:39 PM

idk if youre an era player trying out classic or even the other way round, but it's not the greatest idea posting what era does as future improvements for iClassic

Sardon 04-14-2015 08:11 PM

classics pk is fun
The only change could be additional hearts and different weapons like a nukeshot

Dusty 04-14-2015 08:21 PM

I always thought it was dumb. Death has absolutely no downside other than death--. You can literally die, respawn right where you were and kill the person who killed you. Graal(classic) actually used to respawn you where you entered the map/house, and I always thought it was dumb that when that broke Stefan never fixed it.

God 04-14-2015 08:54 PM

It is what makes classic how it is. If you want to respawn somewhere else go to a tower.

Although I think a place like the wildy in runescape would be very cool.

Zetectic 04-14-2015 09:42 PM

only thing i like about era is the hats.

Dusty 04-14-2015 09:54 PM

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Posted by God (Post 554084)
It is what makes classic how it is.

If you want to argue what "Classic is" then we can say it was a server without diving, bug catching, boring Nexus designs and so on and so forth. Just because it's how it was in the beginning does not mean it's how it should be.

Zetectic 04-14-2015 09:56 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 554093)
If you want to argue what "Classic is" then we can say it was a server without diving, bug catching, boring Nexus designs and so on and so forth. Just because it's how it was in the beginning does not mean it's how it should be.

no pyrat quest!!!! que horrible!!

MrSimons 04-15-2015 01:02 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 554081)
I always thought it was dumb. Death has absolutely no downside other than death--. You can literally die, respawn right where you were and kill the person who killed you. Graal(classic) actually used to respawn you where you entered the map/house, and I always thought it was dumb that when that broke Stefan never fixed it.

Dont you lose bombs/arrows when you die? That is a pretty serious downside especially if you are pking seeing as you are losing ammunition for 2 of your 3 weapons. I think if you only have 6 health then it doesn't make sense to put a ton of penalties on death.

Couldn't you get more health on Classic as well? That would be good reason for re spawning in a different location.

deadowl 04-15-2015 01:13 AM

Can we bring back the screen being black except for a circle surrounding the player that I implemented years ago?

Sardon 04-15-2015 03:08 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 554090)
only thing i like about era is the hats.

what if i told u they were 60% stolen

Seriously leave pk alone

Zetectic 04-15-2015 04:37 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 554152)
what if i told u they were 60% stolen

Seriously leave pk alone

Idgaf. Graal stole a lot of stuff and the hats I like werent even stolen. Era gfx staffs are just good.
for Classic, i'll blame top to the bottom. whoever recruits new gfx staff needs to get their eye fixed, 'Gfx artist' that sucks gotta get fired.
Idc about the price tag as long as hats are fitting to my head, colors are good matching, sizes are alright.
Dont need stupid dumb hats. Ive been saying this for long time.
Nobody really wears it expect for very special occassion.

And ye leave pk alone, pk system is good. I only find problems in corrupted guilds. Nothings wrong other than that.

eevee2 04-16-2015 05:58 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 554171)
Idgaf. Graal stole a lot of stuff and the hats I like werent even stolen. Era gfx staffs are just good.
for Classic, i'll blame top to the bottom. whoever recruits new gfx staff needs to get their eye fixed, 'Gfx artist' that sucks gotta get fired.
Idc about the price tag as long as hats are fitting to my head, colors are good matching, sizes are alright.
Dont need stupid dumb hats. Ive been saying this for long time.
Nobody really wears it expect for very special occassion.

And ye leave pk alone, pk system is good. I only find problems in corrupted guilds. Nothings wrong other than that.

Honestly simply because a gfx staff isn't as good as another one doesn't mean he should get fired.
Except if you're wearing the noob head, the hats don't need to be made to fit with your head. Sizes and colors are what you could call as a signature. So if you don't like his or her style, just get on with it and buy something else!
And if you really want it to fit, just make a new head and make it fit with the hat!

Also, this is the second thread you post about era stuff.
Even if classic isn't what it used to be and changed alot, it surely doesn't need to become era #2.
Many have asked for those things you asked and no one is ready to accept changes like those because it's the difference between each server that makes them enjoyable.
If you can't accept that, you should go with the one that fits you the most without complaining to change everything.

Zetectic 04-17-2015 02:51 AM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 554442)
Honestly simply because a gfx staff isn't as good as another one doesn't mean he should get fired.
Except if you're wearing the noob head, the hats don't need to be made to fit with your head. Sizes and colors are what you could call as a signature. So if you don't like his or her style, just get on with it and buy something else!
And if you really want it to fit, just make a new head and make it fit with the hat!

Also, this is the second thread you post about era stuff.
Even if classic isn't what it used to be and changed alot, it surely doesn't need to become era #2.
Many have asked for those things you asked and no one is ready to accept changes like those because it's the difference between each server that makes them enjoyable.
If you can't accept that, you should go with the one that fits you the most without complaining to change everything.

THERE IS NOTHING TO BUY. if they are keep making craps and waste my storage. i wouldn't be happy with them.
era is making good stuff, classic can do it too. idk why they aren't. Is creativity taking over classic a bit too much?
hats nowadays are just very dumb looking. I wish I could just steal some era hats and put it on classic. everybody would just ask for it.

Latest hats are over sized, not synced properly, weird looking, mistakes here and there. At least i don't have to waste my money easy since they added a script where it shows all 4 different angles. I expect something better from them, if not. They have a problem with their gfx artists. ONLY 2 out of roughly 30 hats (recently released) are looking very nice on your head, not oversized and synced very properly. Guess what? i see people wearing that hat every where cause it looks great.

I appreciate all the Classic admins and the community, but pls make consumers die wanting to buy hats.
classic>era except gfx.

Seņor Albonio 04-17-2015 03:12 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 554152)
what if i told u they were 60% stolen

Seriously leave pk alone

It surprised me Zetectic didn't know this.

Blu 04-17-2015 03:49 PM

The majority of graal players like pking the way it is.
If you want to respawn somewhere different to where you died, go towering.
Myself and many others love pking the way it is, change is fine in certain cases; eg if people want it. But if there's only a select few to support an idea, why even suggest it in the first place.
Keep it how it is. I like it that way.

Zetectic 04-17-2015 07:35 PM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 554671)
It surprised me Zetectic didn't know this.

i always hear that about Era, but taking all different ideas and combine them all, recreating your own work. That's what Era is doing (at least what I think). They take a hood, then they make a hood with a headphone attached to it. Sure it's not original, but it's not a 'serious' copyright.
It is more acceptable in here, United States, to use other people's work to create a better one. See? Aren't you tried of seeing all these Minecraft-alike games on the App store? And most of them aren't even sued yet.

Idk about any other countries, but Japan and South Korea has pretty restrictive copyrights. In there, people sue others for multi million dollars for copyrights. If you enter the biggest portal website in South Korea called Naver. They have disabled the right-click on your mouse to disable saving the image. If they want the image, there's a button at the bottom called 'scrapping'. It is that ridiculous.

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Posted by Blu (Post 554690)
The majority of graal players like pking the way it is.
If you want to respawn somewhere different to where you died, go towering.
Myself and many others love pking the way it is, change is fine in certain cases; eg if people want it. But if there's only a select few to support an idea, why even suggest it in the first place.
Keep it how it is. I like it that way.

good point bruh.

Bryan* 04-18-2015 05:38 AM

http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1429330869

@Zetectic New hats from your creative GFX team!


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