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Alpho 04-04-2015 06:59 AM

50,000 ammo limit? What?
 
Howdy!

Soooo I started playing more with my iPhone account so that I can get a feel for how everything is From a player's point-of-view. I just noticed we have a "50,000 Ammo Limit". I'm pretty sure this exists on iEra as well. Does anyone know what it's purpose is? Should I remove it and/or cap it out at a higher number? Why is this the only item with a limit!? It doesn't make sense..

Let me know what you think! Thanks!

EKiM 04-04-2015 08:57 AM

I think mine is 10k you should bump it up.

Kieran2820 04-04-2015 10:36 AM

Yea. Mine is 10k aswell. And on iera it is 10k

Shiz 04-04-2015 11:22 AM

Staff is 50k I believe. I say we remove it because I find it a bit annoying and useless.

Kieran2820 04-04-2015 12:15 PM

Yea. We should be able to have as much ammo as we want

Itkitt321 04-04-2015 01:52 PM

I agree to Kieran.

PumaD 04-04-2015 02:20 PM

If you do that, you may question "unlimited ammo". A cap is needed so people just can't spam bullets (except unlimited ammo which costs $$$), otherwise laming festivals could happen and stay for hours without you paying for it.

Kieran2820 04-04-2015 02:51 PM

Then maybe we could have a higher limit? It is 10k now. If anything we should make it 30k or higher

Shiz 04-04-2015 02:55 PM

I think you it shouldn't have a cap. If it has no cap then the player would have to pick it up on their own and it wont be unlimited because it is unlimited. Their limit depends on how much the player picks up. This should also not be tradable then since players can easily rack up ammo from trades.

Whereas if a player doesn't want to take the time to pick up ammo then they may purchase VIP or buy the unlimited ammo for a limited time.

Belak 04-04-2015 03:20 PM

I tink ammo should have no cap but there should be no unlimited ammo at all it compeletly takes away the point of ammo. Instead of unlimited ammo you should just be able to buy ammo. So if people didnt want to buy ammo theyed collect. Id also keep it tradeable.

Vladamir Blackthorne 04-05-2015 02:46 AM

On the topic of ammo....

Is there any way to do different ammo types? Like a bow can get poison or fire arrows, a shotgun can get birdshot or slugs, etc

Dark Ice Cream 04-05-2015 03:05 AM

That would have to be in different bows, though, I like it.

Ghettoicedtea 04-05-2015 04:08 AM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 551759)
On the topic of ammo....

Is there any way to do different ammo types? Like a bow can get poison or fire arrows, a shotgun can get birdshot or slugs, etc

no since that would require a new ammo system to be made from scratch. It doesn't help seeing how copy paste igraal is with systems and this type of stuff, they would end up copying zones horrendous ammo system that would then require rebalancing all the weapons for the system (it sucks ass). I highly doubt there a dev will be willing to make a whole different system for that.

Vladamir Blackthorne 04-05-2015 04:10 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 551787)
no since that would require a new ammo system to be made from scratch. It doesn't help seeing how copy paste igraal is with systems and this type of stuff, they would end up copying zones horrendous ammo system that would then require rebalancing all the weapons for the system (it sucks ass). I highly doubt there a dev will be willing to make a whole different system for that.

Alpho would

Red 04-05-2015 05:07 AM

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Posted by Shiz (Post 551582)
Staff is 50k I believe. I say we remove it because I find it a bit annoying and useless.

Stop complaining your server is already 100x better then delteria

Shiz 04-05-2015 05:08 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 551787)
no since that would require a new ammo system to be made from scratch. It doesn't help seeing how copy paste igraal is with systems and this type of stuff, they would end up copying zones horrendous ammo system that would then require rebalancing all the weapons for the system (it sucks ass). I highly doubt there a dev will be willing to make a whole different system for that.

Alpho definitely would revamp any script he would like to lol. He's constantly scripting new things everyday.

Sloth 04-05-2015 06:42 AM

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Posted by Shiz (Post 551816)
Alpho definitely would revamp any script he would like to lol. He's constantly scripting new things everyday.

He'd rescript the whole entire shop system just for a new shop, from what i've seen.

Alpho 04-05-2015 05:36 PM

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Posted by Sloth (Post 551827)
He'd rescript the whole entire shop system just for a new shop, from what i've seen.

Almost done with that. Lol. And it's not just for one shop, it's a new shop system for the entire server. It'll show weapons statistics with damage, etc. Information for all items on sale. Previews with your player.

MattKan 04-05-2015 05:53 PM

I think I'm in agreement with most of the people in the thread, but why on Earth is there an ammo limit, first of all, and, second of all, why is it different for staff and players? That just sounds like some dev at some point enjoyed creating unnecessary "staff powers" to make themself feel important.

Shiz 04-05-2015 06:12 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 551917)
I think I'm in agreement with most of the people in the thread, but why on Earth is there an ammo limit, first of all, and, second of all, why is it different for staff and players? That just sounds like some dev at some point enjoyed creating unnecessary "staff powers" to make themself feel important.

It was most likely one of the scripts that was copy/pasted from iEra to Ol' West before its release.

Ghettoicedtea 04-05-2015 10:59 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 551789)
Alpho would

Well there ya go. Well is he willing to the whole way through and do everything such as ammo types, make shops that sell that ammo, limit the amount of ammo per user, and graphics? If so i tip my fedora to alpho

Quote:

Posted by MattKan (Post 551917)
I think I'm in agreement with most of the people in the thread, but why on Earth is there an ammo limit, first of all, and, second of all, why is it different for staff and players? That just sounds like some dev at some point enjoyed creating unnecessary "staff powers" to make themself feel important.

Ammo limits are there to prevent spammers. Too little makes no fun too much causes mass spam.

Belak 04-07-2015 04:48 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 551984)
Well there ya go. Well is he willing to the whole way through and do everything such as ammo types, make shops that sell that ammo, limit the amount of ammo per user, and graphics? If so i tip my fedora to alpho



Ammo limits are there to prevent spammers. Too little makes no fun too much causes mass spam.

Lol ammo limits are pointless if heres unlimited ammo so id say remove unlimited ammo

Tricky 04-08-2015 05:56 PM

In Era's early release you could save up as much ammo as you wanted, like 100,000 and such. I liked it when you could just save up as much ammo as you wanted. It's kinda a nuisance stuck with a limit.

Ghettoicedtea 04-10-2015 01:53 PM

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Posted by Tricky (Post 552734)
In Era's early release you could save up as much ammo as you wanted, like 100,000 and such. I liked it when you could just save up as much ammo as you wanted. It's kinda a nuisance stuck with a limit.

u wot m8? there was always a 10k limit on iera and after that you can't pick up ammo anymore. You had to hoard ammo in your houses.

optimuswhat 04-10-2015 02:52 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 553186)
u wot m8? there was always a 10k limit on iera and after that you can't pick up ammo anymore. You had to hoard ammo in your houses.

iEra had an exploit where you could carry beyond 10k ammo by having 9999 ammo, then picking up a full stack of ammo.

Hugop 04-10-2015 03:45 PM

Remove ammo limits :)

Ghettoicedtea 04-10-2015 04:54 PM

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Posted by optimuswhat (Post 553192)
iEra had an exploit where you could carry beyond 10k ammo by having 9999 ammo, then picking up a full stack of ammo.

Ik but you couldnt pick up ammo if you had 10k+ ammo


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