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Cookie Xanadu 01-30-2015 06:33 AM

My thoughts on Zone
 
I'm an ex-story writer that was tasked with creating quests and such for Zone. While I was apart of it, I had thought of new systems and elements that could be added to enhance Zone and seperate it from the Zera image. however, as it stands, I feel like Zone is just becoming a waste of resources. Why? A lot of the content being put in is just bland while others are blatantly ripped (Casino yo). Skyworld bases are extra bland as they're very small rooms with little in ways of defense or strategy, on top of the lack of any passive defenses to add challenge ( such as bots, mines, etc.)

A lot of content being added really contains nothing of consistency as it's normally furniture, hats and little joke weapons. I feel as though even if I continued with what I was doing (Had a string of quests fleshed out with unique actions, enemies, abilities, etc.) it would have ultimately gone differently with minial creativity or completely scrapped altogether. Not because of the dev team; you guys are great, but I feel as though Tashkin would disapprove of a lot of and opt for something simpler yet closer to Era or Classic's feel.

I'm not trying to rip on Tash, but these are my thoughts and Matt, if you're reading this, then this is pretty much the reason why I just stopped bothering with it and disappeared.

Tl;dr Zone's direction is abhorrent and had has made me feel like tryig to help it would be pointless.


Also: Assuming it's fine, I can probably share some of my stuff that wasn't submitted or yet connected if you guys want. It wouldn't be a story, but a script detailing everything for how a quest would go.
Peace

- Cookie

kenthefruit 01-30-2015 06:48 AM

I feel the same way. The way Zone stands; management, organization (or lack of), and just generally how everything is ran at this point is horrid, and if it keeps going how it has been for a long time; I think it doesn't deserve to get better (and it won't). No projects have been in the works that'll actually be meaningful. No useful development has been created I'm sure, and all that I see being done now is shoving Events and Hats down the player's throats to satisfy them until they realize what a sorry state Zone is in.

Don't get me wrong, I love(d) the server. It became my favorite and was well deserving of this title. Awhile ago it was on its path to getting better; player count was rising, some interesting content was being released. Yet now none of that is happening. I don't know if it's due to the lost of interest in the Management or if things started becoming so unorganized nothing of quality was being produced. All I'm trying to say is: **** needs to get done, and done successfully. That or say goodbye to Zone.

Dark Ice Cream 01-30-2015 08:53 AM

I can see some ex-staffs have so much creative ideas yet it wasn't continued by the management.

How the team runs for now is very unpredictable.

Ivy 01-30-2015 11:15 AM

Ayy yo hit me with the manager card and I'll get **** done ;)

PumaD 01-30-2015 11:29 AM

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Posted by Shadowfox (Post 538255)
Ayy yo hit me with the manager card and I'll get **** done ;)

Ayy yo hit me first plZ

I know the admins or 1/2 of them are pretty inactive, dunno why. But Tashkins probably busy with Graal Kingdoms, handling 2 (3) Servers isn't easy. But I get your point and support it 100%.

ToshiHiro* 01-30-2015 12:03 PM

Maybe Perfect Dark can at least lead iZone while Tashkin is caring multi servers

Stratus 01-30-2015 04:43 PM

I had original ideas for the Casino but they never were used :(

Ghettoicedtea 01-30-2015 06:42 PM

make me manager hoho zone is going to be da shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
But i def agree, i don't get how or why no one authorizes expansions that actually have an assload of work put in it and are really in depth and fun. I had a buttload of those types of things in the works with guns, cookie probably had that with quests. MOst of zones **** is just really bland, copy pasta like the new skybases. Everything is the same about them with era, the flags, spawning, and overall gameplay.

GlazeyB 01-30-2015 06:43 PM

how about

we don't do anything, and let it die.

Ghettoicedtea 01-30-2015 06:50 PM

it won't die thats the thing.

Vivid 01-30-2015 07:00 PM

The maps a big too big for its player count atm but it's getting there.

Ghettoicedtea 01-30-2015 07:44 PM

put this crap in zone play, see how fast it turns into a flame war between admins and players.

Ryan 01-31-2015 12:05 AM

The flamewars happen on Graalians 99% of the time

Dark Ice Cream 01-31-2015 01:19 AM

You can't avoid flame wars here.

Dark Ice Cream 01-31-2015 06:01 AM

I can see some heads not the managers imo, the head devs though.

There were more ideas to add than revamping an old content to something shiny or more.

Adding more content and revamping an old content, though would start adding more content than renewing.

Platinum 01-31-2015 06:15 AM

Does it really matter who's fault it is? So many players aren't content with the content provided. At the moment, one rotten apple has spoiled the bunch and nobody (on the outside at least) can tell which one started it.

Ivy 01-31-2015 02:07 PM

Hire some pixel joint members ;)

Cookie Xanadu 01-31-2015 03:11 PM

Simons bruh. A lot of ahat I was doing was meant to add new content and new systems such as panning, cut scenes and more. However, Tashkin just really wanted "Go here kill X Y times then Kill Z Y times". However, others said that would be boring so I was told to actually be creative by others in the team. But since it all falls ultimately on Tash, there's just no point if that was all he wanted.

Ivy 01-31-2015 08:01 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 538495)
Simons bruh. A lot of ahat I was doing was meant to add new content and new systems such as panning, cut scenes and more. However, Tashkin just really wanted "Go here kill X Y times then Kill Z Y times". However, others said that would be boring so I was told to actually be creative by others in the team. But since it all falls ultimately on Tash, there's just no point if that was all he wanted.

Let's make our own game then! MUHAHA

Jester Lapse 02-01-2015 12:23 AM

I used to talk crap about zone and the same people talking crap now were the ones who defended it back then lol. Zone always been like this

PumaD 02-01-2015 01:14 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 538586)
I'm sorry, but if I recall correctly when I left the team was just fine, there were 3-4 people that could've lead the team, I even left recommendations for new GFXAs in the management chat. Maybe most of those people left shortly after me, but that wasn't my fault. You even had Latte still in the chat for the sole purpose of giving help when really needed, guess no one thought to ask her. Not only that but I didn't publicly bitch about how other people aren't running the server well enough after I left. Should I also include the fact that about a month before you left I returned to help with the stuff you didn't appear qualified to do on your own? Or how while I wasn't even staff on the server I still would suggest to people to apply to Zone?

Maybe I didn't waste my time explaining everything about me resigning to people whose business it wasn't, but that doesn't mean I just took off and left. So please for the love of god don't talk about how I "let the Graphics team die".

You're bitching right now.

Why would you not talk bad about servers when retired/fired? Butthurt? C'mon, this is just a ****ty game, people eventually need to realize this once they grow..

Just. Stop. Crying. If the majority thinks this server is **** right now they probably have reasons to do so.

Platinum 02-01-2015 01:49 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 538586)
I'm sorry, but if I recall correctly when I left the team was just fine, there were 3-4 people that could've lead the team, I even left recommendations for new GFXAs in the management chat. Maybe most of those people left shortly after me, but that wasn't my fault. You even had Latte still in the chat for the sole purpose of giving help when really needed, guess no one thought to ask her. Not only that but I didn't publicly bitch about how other people aren't running the server well enough after I left. Should I also include the fact that about a month before you left I returned to help with the stuff you didn't appear qualified to do on your own? Or how while I wasn't even staff on the server I still would suggest to people to apply to Zone?

Maybe I didn't waste my time explaining everything about me resigning to people whose business it wasn't, but that doesn't mean I just took off and left. So please for the love of god don't talk about how I "let the Graphics team die".

EDIT: I'm not trying to start a flame war, but words need to be said.
At the moment, you're being unprofessional. You are supposed to be representing the graphics team at the moment, which is a shame as there are some talented members. I don't know what the purpose of your post was, but if it's to prove that you're the 'better' GFXA you have yet to show it. You're talented and great at what you do, but I suppose we'll see if you can share it with the members on Valentine's Day.
As for him 'bitching', maybe it was because of some recent events management has shown anyone can be fired without them being told why and people have wanted to keep their position to contribute to the server and so can't critisize it at all to make it better. A dictatorship.

GlazeyB 02-01-2015 02:11 AM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 538584)
I used to talk crap about zone and the same people talking crap now were the ones who defended it back then lol. Zone always been like this

Do I get a special badge for being the same person who constantly said it's ****?

Jester Lapse 02-01-2015 02:47 AM

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Posted by GlazeyB (Post 538606)
Do I get a special badge for being the same person who constantly said it's ****?

Yea 😄

Ivy 02-01-2015 11:15 AM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 538602)
some recent events management has shown anyone can be fired without them being told why and people have wanted to keep their position to contribute to the server and so can't critisize it at all to make it better. A dictatorship.

This.

Cookie Xanadu 02-01-2015 03:54 PM

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Posted by Platinum (Post 538602)
As for him 'bitching', maybe it was because of some recent events management has shown anyone can be fired without them being told why and people have wanted to keep their position to contribute to the server and so can't critisize it at all to make it better. A dictatorship.

To be fair, I've ripped on management, insulted it and all that while still holding my positions, so I wouldn't say dictatorship.

PumaD 02-01-2015 08:04 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 538717)
To be fair, I've ripped on management, insulted it and all that while still holding my positions, so I wouldn't say dictatorship.

Say "biased dictatorship".

Admiral 02-01-2015 09:56 PM

you guys should have the right to bitch about your own server in a way, at the end of the day you're the ones behind the scene trying to improve it (+ for free also)

Zura 05-01-2015 07:12 AM

As much as I would love to disagree with all of you, I can't, because you are right. I started playing Zone about 8 months ago. At the time it was by far the best graal game I'd ever played. At this time, the player count was growing, and everyone was happy. Even better, people actually based. It was like this for a while.. But then, admins and other staff members were fired, one by one. With them, the player count also began dropping. Faster and faster. Now look at Zone, it's horse ****. The player count reflects this as well. Nowadays, no one bases, everyone just sits at start.. Waiting for something to happen. We need those staff back, badly.

G Fatal 05-01-2015 10:56 PM

Pretty sure most ex staff fromzone can agree the way the system is run just doesn't work for zone simply because the highpowered don't put amazing effort into it(this isnt a flame-you have lives etc..) andthe group is set into levels/patrol(uploads)/gfx-couldnt even do uploads when on when i was around.. anyway its set like that (thats sometimes gd-if the highers of them groups display tasks etc to get on with/use intuitive and get stuff done but not many of them do. Thats where you get the failures as the team ends up with no tasks(part from holiday rota) THEN even if they set out about doing something themselves they'd have to nag for files etcetc and try work on stuff that then would still rely on a higher having to accept/decline (most stuff is pushed aside -zone needs more get up and go! rather than we dont need this etc.or we still need hats for x-holiday or whatever excuse) Zone needs Dev roles for allround staff willing to try make game better.

Sardon 05-02-2015 12:16 AM

i have many ideas for the future of izone to get it away from. era and be something different.
At the moment though you should ask other servers to advertise zone as era did with ol west.And their should be more missions

The map is verry bland theirs little to do but missions are the one thing that makes zone different and attracts players, adding new missions would really get new players.
Quests and other planets with their own towns and creatures would be nice

I find zones aproach in development is similar to Pc servers which I like.
The server would be exactly like a pc server but on ios if it werent for those iera players


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