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Doublelift8 01-22-2015 06:18 AM

GST predictions.... I hate this
 
Ok, ppl what will happen in gst! Possible news: Aguzo got kicked for sure. Mk and dante may have left alumni....... that's a maybe. And I don't give a tiny f*ck about anything else cuz alumni keeps winning!

Ash Ketchum 01-22-2015 06:21 AM

If they added the MS cap of 350, half of Alumni would be banned

Doublelift8 01-22-2015 06:21 AM

LOL

Thallen 01-22-2015 03:25 PM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 536693)
If they added the MS cap of 350, half of Alumni would be banned

wouldn't even matter even if this was true, last GST they allowed a guild with 2 banned players to win it

maybe if the playercount was 350 you could finally win one instead of playing tag-along in every spar thread
siiike, still couldn't :unsure:

MBK 01-22-2015 03:45 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 536739)
last GST they allowed a guild with 2 banned players to win it

They used their Noob accounts...so what.I'm sure you wouldn't have cared if they lost the Finals.

Sardon 01-22-2015 06:02 PM

im doing the gst with idev and I think they may have a chance of getting 3rd place

Alumni will probaly win mixed again but If they plan on winning the mobile tournament aswell they should get themselves back together.

GotenGraal 01-22-2015 07:05 PM

Aight leme thro my predicton here n its nothin we havnt seen alrite here we go: rufies gna swoop dwn from up above n start warpin noob sparrin bak to gral city then he gna 5 knukle shufle noob n hack gst agan... N the final round gna b US vs soul of ninja n rufos gna solo them with hack n adniom still let ths sh*t hapen n do not ban rufis n it rly g*y

Xenthic 01-22-2015 07:35 PM

When are these GST prediction threads gonna stop?

Fulgore 01-22-2015 07:57 PM

I'm just sad I didn't get to start this one, I love watching people get heated over an in-game event like this.

Mixed: Alumni
Idevice: Slightly trickier, maybe Alumni, maybe another VIS-type squad. Haven't seen too many clear-cut teams.

G Fatal 01-22-2015 08:12 PM

Who really cares who wins, all sparrers delay and lag for the lame joy of a win.. even if they claim they don't.

Fulgore 01-22-2015 08:14 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 536781)
Who really cares who wins, all sparrers delay and lag for the lame joy of a win.. even if they claim they don't.

lol

GOAT 01-22-2015 08:58 PM

Knife party taking mix this year :love:

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 536779)
I love watching people get heated over an in-game event

:):D:P we have something in common.


This is nothing, wait until someone uses 2 devices to spar.

Zetectic 01-22-2015 10:58 PM

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Posted by Doublelift8 (Post 536692)
Aguzo got kicked for sure

Aguzo left or got kicked, but why? he's good and always try something new though.

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 536779)
Idevice: Slightly trickier, maybe Alumni, maybe another VIS-type squad. Haven't seen too many clear-cut teams.

Theres many VIS-type squads.
But there aren't many Alumni idevice type squad.
I kinda want to see 5Pa4 win, but they are just teared apart now.

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Posted by GOAT (Post 536804)
Knife party taking mix this year :love:

The leader of Knife party is idev and i gotta say hes pretty damn good at using blinks. Even though never seen him sparring up to 25k before.

Ash Ketchum 01-23-2015 02:38 AM

Did... Thallen just unblock me?

GOAT 01-23-2015 05:16 AM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 536857)
Did... Thallen just unblock me?

lol ouch

Howl 01-24-2015 05:07 AM

Why are we having a GST prediction thread 1 month and 6 days before the GST...

Fulgore 01-24-2015 06:30 PM

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Posted by Howlgraal (Post 537009)
Why are we having a GST prediction thread 1 month and 6 days before the GST...

It gives time for everyone to steam over the arguments on this thread to power them up for the tournament.

Comyt 01-25-2015 02:11 AM

lol a gst thread would be nothing without me so i'm just gonna vent random feelings.

i can't post a prediction on a winner of either tournament because i'm going to be honest, i don't know any spar guilds anymore. and this isn't even because of inactivity, if i go into the battle arena and watch people run in and out of rooms all day long, i would still have no idea. i've said this before and it was true but people argued, and i'll say it again now. sparring is dead. i don't understand how anyone can argue with this right now. look around you. back in the day, we used to have a lot of people sparring and i could walk around destroying a variety of different players, recognizing their names and their guilds then bragging to show my dominance over their guild. now, if i go around sparring all day long, what do i see? no big name guilds. just a few average sparrers beating up the insane amount of complete noobs with awful negative ratios that now roam the battle arena. and occasionally i see a person with a decent spar record, but not even they are a good sparrer within a good guild. they are simply an average sparrer who made a noob account and selective sparred to a ridiculous 1k-100 record against the insane amount of negative ratios running around. big name sparrers are gone. big name guilds are gone. we used to have a lot of teams competing with each other and these gst prediction threads would be filled with different guild names. now, what guild name are you even supposed to type in? (VIS), (Alumni), uhh... help me out here, i really don't see anything else.

Fulgore 01-25-2015 06:48 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 537185)
uhh... help me out here, i really don't see anything else.

Just wait a few weeks until desperate people start forming teams and betraying their friends in order to try and get farther in this tournament. Some "spar guilds" are bound to show up then.

MBK 01-25-2015 07:15 AM

As Fulgore said many guilds are bound to appear on the GST.Vindictive,WaV,Maybe Essence and many more.

Aguzo 01-26-2015 08:24 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 537185)
lol a gst thread would be nothing without me. Sparring is dead.

Very self centered. The sparring community is not dead. There are plenty of new meat joining queues every day. It is dead to you, possibly because you don't see your friends around, but to the people who are much newer they see the sparring community as very alive, and challenging.

Comyt 01-27-2015 06:21 AM

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Posted by Hikaru (Post 537457)
the sparring community, challenging.

i feel as if some people seriously just post complete idiotic responses to me just for the sake of arguing with me. never really expected anything smart though from the same dude who idolizes the phrase "winners talk trash, they perform" when i exist and i have won a lot and talked more trash than everyone else here. hikaru, just quiet down. i'm not going to allow you to switch to pc and completely switch your personality to some wack "aguzo" thing and try to preach some fake ignorant "wisdom" to me when i have seen who you were before. i'm not buying it. don't even type to me anymore until you're being real with yourself, it's just annoying at this point how fake you're being.

once again, a thread like this is nothing without me. i post stuff like this and people start senselessly exploding their emotions out all over these threads. it's not really being self-centered, it's basically a fact. look at every thread i've participated in. y'all either love me or love to hate me.

Kouji 01-27-2015 11:22 AM

Lol comyt pretty much said what I think but in a more extended version there aren't any good teams or sparrers anymore everyone left and none of the new sparrers catch anyone's eye. And winner will be whichever guild gets the luckiest by hitting the air, because none of the hits I landed on last GST were actually landed on my screen

Sardon 01-27-2015 01:47 PM

I predict idev getting a good spot in the gst.
Their good
#totaly not being bias.

Aguzo 01-27-2015 06:25 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 537654)
hikaru, just quiet down. i'm not going to allow you to switch to pc and completely switch and try to preach some fake ignorant "wisdom" to me. i'm not buying it. don't even type to me anymore until you're being real with yourself, it's just annoying at this point how fake you're being.

once again, a thread like this is nothing without me. i post stuff like this and people start senselessly exploding their emotions out all over these threads. it's not really being self-centered, it's basically a fact. look at every thread i've participated in. y'all either love me or love to hate me.

So apparently it's up to you if I can use a pc or not, I've been using it for 4 years. Don't see how I am being fake, you are the one calling yourself "Emperor", "Destroyer of US", "Made spar dead". I won't be responding to you anymore, since I see you as either arrogant or just someone needing attention.

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Posted by Comyt (Post 537654)
it's basically a fact.


Fulgore 01-27-2015 08:01 PM

Quote:

Posted by Comyt (Post 537654)
y'all either love me or love to hate me.

The indifferent club. Population-1?

GOAT 01-28-2015 02:37 AM

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Posted by Hikaru (Post 537749)
So apparently it's up to you if I can use a pc or not, I've been using it for 4 years. Don't see how I am being fake, you are the one calling yourself "Emperor", "Destroyer of US", "Made spar dead". I won't be responding to you anymore, since I see you as either arrogant or just someone needing attention.

I don't think he was trying to tell you what to use(pc/mobile). I'm almost sure what he meant was that you were a nobody(no offence) in the spar community when you played with your idevice, and didn't become relevant until you got on a PC(advantage? :D), so how are you going to argue with him about the spar community(in which he has been relevant since 09 and knows the history of the spar community).



Going back to his original comment --v
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Posted by Comyt (Post 537185)
lol a gst thread would be nothing without me so i'm just gonna vent random feelings.

i can't post a prediction on a winner of either tournament because i'm going to be honest, i don't know any spar guilds anymore. and this isn't even because of inactivity, if i go into the battle arena and watch people run in and out of rooms all day long, i would still have no idea. i've said this before and it was true but people argued, and i'll say it again now. sparring is dead. i don't understand how anyone can argue with this right now. look around you. back in the day, we used to have a lot of people sparring and i could walk around destroying a variety of different players, recognizing their names and their guilds then bragging to show my dominance over their guild. now, if i go around sparring all day long, what do i see? no big name guilds. just a few average sparrers beating up the insane amount of complete noobs with awful negative ratios that now roam the battle arena. and occasionally i see a person with a decent spar record, but not even they are a good sparrer within a good guild. they are simply an average sparrer who made a noob account and selective sparred to a ridiculous 1k-100 record against the insane amount of negative ratios running around. big name sparrers are gone. big name guilds are gone. we used to have a lot of teams competing with each other and these gst prediction threads would be filled with different guild names. now, what guild name are you even supposed to type in? (VIS), (Alumni), uhh... help me out here, i really don't see anything else.

If you actually think about what he's saying it's true. Name 10 big guild names that currently roam the spar community.


I also think that when he says the spar community is dead he refers to the lack of competition or named sparers. There can be players actively sparring, but if a high % of those players are noobs/bad sparers(as myself :'() then he feels the community is dead. The problem is that the 2013 and 2014 generation didn't contribute any "top" sparers/spar guilds.

Comyt 01-28-2015 06:24 AM

such an awful response pulling random irrelevant stuff from nowhere out of desperation. basically just read "how are you calling me fake when i can list three completely random things that don't make you fake at all lord comyt." i do appreciate the "done responding" part though, i'm tired of you posting completely stupid comments on everything i say. gg.

Zetectic 01-28-2015 04:01 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 537185)
lol a gst thread would be nothing without me so i'm just gonna vent random feelings.

i can't post a prediction on a winner of either tournament because i'm going to be honest, i don't know any spar guilds anymore. and this isn't even because of inactivity, if i go into the battle arena and watch people run in and out of rooms all day long, i would still have no idea. i've said this before and it was true but people argued, and i'll say it again now. sparring is dead. i don't understand how anyone can argue with this right now. look around you. back in the day, we used to have a lot of people sparring and i could walk around destroying a variety of different players, recognizing their names and their guilds then bragging to show my dominance over their guild. now, if i go around sparring all day long, what do i see? no big name guilds. just a few average sparrers beating up the insane amount of complete noobs with awful negative ratios that now roam the battle arena. and occasionally i see a person with a decent spar record, but not even they are a good sparrer within a good guild. they are simply an average sparrer who made a noob account and selective sparred to a ridiculous 1k-100 record against the insane amount of negative ratios running around. big name sparrers are gone. big name guilds are gone. we used to have a lot of teams competing with each other and these gst prediction threads would be filled with different guild names. now, what guild name are you even supposed to type in? (VIS), (Alumni), uhh... help me out here, i really don't see anything else.

yeah it's dead, time for more alumni domination. all the past and previous teams been teared apart maybe cause they aren't winning or different cases like US won too much and retired. Some of them are forming a new one. Like I see Koga fams doing something. We can possible expect to see more last minute formed GST on winter.

Also I agreed with spar ratio problem. i aint gonna lie, but i did it too, i didn't know how easy that was. i met some boosters, they ran away after 1st match. 75% just exits right after 1st spar of facing me. Only few of them stayed and at the end only 3 people found a way to beat me after 3rd match.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27189
^ i suggested an idea on the different thread, this will kinda prevent some boosters cause u have no idea who ur next opponents gonna be, but this idea might also kill spar, because people are so used to know who they are facing next and so on.
sadly, I dont see any admin favoring this thread at all.

If there's a wish, I hope to see Central/South American sparrers forming a good GST.
Many of them are using PC and I gotta say they have delay, but it's also challenging and definitely beatable if you use ur brain, which is kinda fun for me. they have some lag/warp -> slows them down a little too(gives a time to hit ahead). so i'd say its kinda fair match.

WAR, idk havent talked to prime in awhile, but i hope he wins a title for himself.

Cudislagne 01-28-2015 04:35 PM

US REBORN

Sardon 01-28-2015 05:29 PM

Would any of you say oracle is a good sparer?
Not by ratio but by how he spars.

Shut up about the community being dead
The spar community is not dead you are
13 people where in the idevice room last night sparring for hours.
Many status mention spar in it.
Many guilds guild spar for fun.

Comyt 01-28-2015 06:45 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 537939)
Shut up about the community being dead
The spar community is not dead you are
13 people where in the idevice room last night sparring for hours.
Many status mention spar in it.
Many guilds guild spar for fun.

the spar community is dead when i'm willing to bet at least 10 of your 13 people in the idevice room had a negative ratio.
the spar community is dead when all of the statuses mentioning spar in them say something like "goal: go positive." (more negative ratios)
the spar community is dead when almost every single guild you can find in the guildspar arena contains a bunch of 8 year olds from graal city. (even more negative ratios, wow)

r.i.p. spar. goodbye every half-decent sparrer, hello 8 year olds.

Fulgore 01-29-2015 12:30 AM

I don't typically agree with a lot of stuff that Comyt says but I do have to agree to a point that the spar community is a shell of its former self. I think it's partly due to the older players losing interest, partly due to the introduction of the "boosting generation" as well as the lack of incentive to spar now. There's another thread for bringing back spar hats, which I fully support, as it will give incentive to the scene to try and jump start it again. I'm not even counting the difficulty in sparring now that the player count is higher and the server often can't take it on weekends or holidays. Overall, I agree that the scene of spar is not how it should be, much more desolate than I'd like to see it. I do hope this changes, but if things don't happen to jump start the spar community it will only get worse.

Colin 01-29-2015 12:45 AM

Quote from the leader of "GRAAL GIRLS LOYALTY AND FAMILY";

"gst look out cause royals gunna beat your cupcake butts ;) personally when I or we beat you, you get jealous ;)"

Pretty sure we've found the winner.

It's a pretty open tournament, people just make teams with decent sparrers and have at it but I think Alumni will take atleast one of the wins for sure.

Sardon 01-29-2015 04:39 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 537956)
the spar community is dead when i'm willing to bet at least 10 of your 13 people in the idevice room had a negative ratio.
the spar community is dead when all of the statuses mentioning spar in them say something like "goal: go positive." (more negative ratios)
the spar community is dead when almost every single guild you can find in the guildspar arena contains a bunch of 8 year olds from graal city. (even more negative ratios, wow)

r.i.p. spar. goodbye every half-decent sparrer, hello 8 year olds.

lmao
Just because someones negative doesnt mean their bad
These days getting a positive ratio is verry rare.
If a player would have positive they must have sparred back when people didnt boost as much

Some curent sparers boost fake ratios and pretend they kick ass when some curent negative new sparers are able to beat them in their sleep.

The sparring community is not dead we still have a ton of new players getting into sparring but we just lack honest sparers and rewards.
Just because some of your old friends are no longuer around with you in the arena doesnt mean sparring is dead at all.

MBK 01-29-2015 12:31 PM

@Sardon
Not always do Positive score peeps beat those Burger Refuges...ive seen Skull,Bradd...even Kevin losing to some newbies... would u also call them "boosters"?

Craftz 01-29-2015 12:43 PM

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Posted by MBK (Post 538095)
@Sardon
Not always do Positive score peeps beat those Burger Refuges...ive seen Skull,Bradd...even Kevin losing to some newbies... would u also call them "boosters"?

Rather than saying "@somebody" in every post, why not use the quote button? It is a lot easier to specifiy what you are taking about.

Sardon 01-29-2015 03:01 PM

what bugsme is all these people sayi sparring is dead when they no longuer spar at the arena.

Stop treating newbies like **** because once their no longuer a newbie they will treat the new newbies like **** and the cycle will continue

Ruins the game experience .

Zetectic 01-29-2015 03:17 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 538117)
what bugsme is all these people sayi sparring is dead when they no longuer spar at the arena.

Stop treating newbies like **** because once their no longuer a newbie they will treat the new newbies like **** and the cycle will continue

Ruins the game experience .

true, noobs grow and as they grow they get better than the previous spar generation. but right now, If I go in quick spar rooms and start beating decent ones, they run off to the other room. I clear the room go to other room, they run back to the first room or wait until I am up to spar, which means they won't face me if somebody else queues before me. like wtf.

I go to main room, 8 out of 10 were noob, but this is depend on the time. At Central Time evening it's more competitive, but morning time or lunch/school hour its full of noobs and almost empty spar rooms.

only 5-10%, that is people like skull, aguzo, brett, continued to stay and beat me. There's more, but i forgot, cuz it was awhile ago, but it's less than 10% of people I have faced decided to stay till they win.

That's my point, people either selective spar just like comyt said. Probably back in when I was recording Pro Sparrer Series, there's bunch of people whether they were pro or not, they never gave up until they finally beat me. Main spar room was filled with Alumni, US, some decent spar guilds all day, that's how I remember it.

Most of them aren't even offensive when they are facing me. From the beginning to the end some people just go straight off defensive. I don't say anything about this, because some people (foreigners) can't beat the other if they aren't defensive. I have basic knowledge of what's going on behind the server and players, but I am not 100% sure. So I never made a youtube video about it.

Sardon 01-29-2015 04:45 PM

im technically new to competitive spar
only started sparring competitivly in june
but even though im negative i have lead 2 gst teams.
help alot of teams to get 6.6k or so and my spars not that bad

Depends on who you spar
I think Gps should monitor the arena a bit more so we dont have boosting

Colin 01-29-2015 05:05 PM

My favorite is the pause/quitting the app for a few minutes then they come back see nothing has changed and then repeat the process.

Would be cool if each room required a certain number of wins or a certain ratio (2:1 or something) for a player to enter so that way players will be going up against other players who share their skill/boost level and they may actually be required to start sparring for real.

Craftz 01-29-2015 08:50 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 538137)
My favorite is the pause/quitting the app for a few minutes then they come back see nothing has changed and then repeat the process.

Would be cool if each room required a certain number of wins or a certain ratio (2:1 or something) for a player to enter so that way players will be going up against other players who share their skill/boost level and they may actually be required to start sparring for real.

It is a good idea, but I don't think there would be many people in the higher up ratio ones and it wul get bland sparring the same person every time.

Kouji 01-29-2015 10:06 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 538120)
That's my point, people either selective spar just like comyt said. Probably back in when I was recording Pro Sparrer Series, there's bunch of people whether they were pro or not, they never gave up until they finally beat me. Main spar room was filled with Alumni, US, some decent spar guilds all day, that's how I remember it.

I don't think there was ever a US and Alumni at the same time, because Alumni was an attempt to steal every US member since Rufus sorta quit and the guild was tearing apart

Fulgore 01-29-2015 10:31 PM

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Posted by Kouji (Post 538169)
I don't think there was ever a US and Alumni at the same time, because Alumni was an attempt to steal every US member since Rufus sorta quit and the guild was tearing apart

From my understanding, it was made because US went inactive and it's only goal was to continuing a high tier spar guild, not to steal US members lol.

GOAT 01-29-2015 11:15 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 538175)
From my understanding, it was made because US went inactive and it's only goal was to continuing a high tier spar guild, not to steal US members lol.

So for the purpose of making a GST guild? :D

Kouji 01-29-2015 11:15 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 538175)
From my understanding, it was made because US went inactive and it's only goal was to continuing a high tier spar guild, not to steal US members lol.

You missed their first roster then

Colin 01-29-2015 11:22 PM

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Posted by Kouji (Post 538181)
You missed their first roster then

That isn't really stealing, US stops so obviously some of the players are going to want to join an active sparring guild rofl

Zetectic 01-30-2015 12:54 AM

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Posted by Kouji (Post 538169)
I don't think there was ever a US and Alumni at the same time, because Alumni was an attempt to steal every US member since Rufus sorta quit and the guild was tearing apart

oh yeah my bad, nvm. i thought winter was in US for some reason idfk why.

Winter 01-30-2015 02:03 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 538175)
From my understanding, it was made because US went inactive and it's only goal was to continuing a high tier spar guild, not to steal US members lol.

Yep, exactly. I can't speak for Thallen since he was the one who started it, but its not like there was some evil reason behind it.

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Posted by Colin (Post 538184)
That isn't really stealing, US stops so obviously some of the players are going to want to join an active sparring guild rofl

Ya, a lot of us were friends.

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 538199)
oh yeah my bad, nvm. i thought winter was in US for some reason idfk why.

member of US since 2011

Sardon 01-30-2015 02:12 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 538137)
My favorite is the pause/quitting the app for a few minutes then they come back see nothing has changed and then repeat the process.

Would be cool if each room required a certain number of wins or a certain ratio (2:1 or something) for a player to enter so that way players will be going up against other players who share their skill/boost level and they may actually be required to start sparring for real.

I like that idea but it should just be an option a special room that does that.

I would like to be able to spar in that way my self and I may possibly become positive.


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