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Droid 12-20-2014 03:36 PM

Indicators for Players defending a Fort
 
Just an idea; I sometimes PK with nicknames off to reduce lag slightly, and I feel that there should be indicators showing which players are defending the fort, so you know who is going to get annoyed if you hit the flag, and who else is PKing.

Thoughts?

4-Lom 12-20-2014 05:07 PM

Might be useful, but could get confusing seeing as though we already have indicators for friends, guild members, and guild allies... Sometimes these old eyes don't differentiate so well, though :P

Dusty 12-20-2014 05:52 PM

Sounds possible.

TWIZ 12-20-2014 06:53 PM

Maybe a small shield icon below the avatar for defender, and a small sword icon for attacker

Dusty 12-20-2014 07:05 PM

Basically I can only mark those who AREN'T guildmates or guild allies. It seems like it'd be more useful to only see enemies as those are the people you want to target, rather than your allies.

Ash Ketchum 12-21-2014 04:26 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 528402)
Basically I can only mark those who AREN'T guildmates or guild allies. It seems like it'd be more useful to only see enemies as those are the people you want to target, rather than your allies.

Can you do that plsss.

Mizochi 12-22-2014 07:10 PM

Would get pretty cluttered on the screen in mass pking

Dusty 12-22-2014 07:17 PM

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Posted by Mizochi (Post 528946)
Would get pretty cluttered on the screen in mass pking

But this isn't for PKing...

Thallen 12-22-2014 07:24 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 528948)
But this isn't for PKing...

it kind of is, indirectly
a good number of players PK at towers, specifically the hallways at Sardon's and the top of MoD

might be a good idea to expand on indicators overall if you decide to do this, as in have checkbox options to display which indicators you want to see: staff, friends, guildmates, guild allies, tower holders, maybe even add one for blocked players, I dunno

or, if you coded it so that the indicators are only visible at the flag level (rather than every level of the tower), it wouldn't cause as much of a problem - people still PK at the flag around MoD and York, but it'd probably be fine

freakytree 12-22-2014 07:39 PM

Reasonable to have indicators for defenders but for attackers? Obviously whoever doesn't have an indicator for a defender would be an attacker. It would get too cluttered.

Also how would subs work? Would allies count as defenders? Would they have two indicators? It sounds a bit confusing.

Dusty 12-22-2014 08:18 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 528949)
it kind of is, indirectly
a good number of players PK at towers, specifically the hallways at Sardon's and the top of MoD

might be a good idea to expand on indicators overall if you decide to do this, as in have checkbox options to display which indicators you want to see: staff, friends, guildmates, guild allies, tower holders, maybe even add one for blocked players, I dunno

or, if you coded it so that the indicators are only visible at the flag level (rather than every level of the tower), it wouldn't cause as much of a problem - people still PK at the flag around MoD and York, but it'd probably be fine

He's implying "mass PKing" which happens outside of Graal City. That sort of thing doesn't happen in towers, does it?

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Posted by freakytree (Post 528954)
Reasonable to have indicators for defenders but for attackers? Obviously whoever doesn't have an indicator for a defender would be an attacker. It would get too cluttered.

Why would it make sense for you to see indicators for defenders but not attackers? Of course, this is all a bit confusing when attacking/defending is a contextual set of words. If you own the tower you are defending, therefor imo it is more important you see attackers. However if you don't own the tower you are attackers, and therefor it makes more sense for you to see defenders.

In the context of my statements, I am talking from the perspective of a tower owner. Basically I'm saying you'd have indicators for everyone that is not your guild/allied; ie: people you should be attacking.

freakytree 12-22-2014 08:28 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 528961)
If you own the tower you are defending, therefor imo it is more important you see attackers.

There are multiple guilds attacking, so I feel like you would just pk anyone that doesn't have an indicator on their head. It's useless to have everyone with an indicator, it would get cluttered and confusing. It makes more sense to have a single guild with indicators rather than EVERYONE with indicators

Mizochi 12-22-2014 09:00 PM

She* and I was saying towers still get pretty cluttered regardless when mass pks happen. ex. sards halls and mod like thall said

Dusty 12-22-2014 09:16 PM

Well I am getting mixed signals here and it's confusing me.

I suggest indicators for everyone not allied(ie targets) and no one wants it. Then it's implied indicators for guildmates/allies, but don't they already have indicators?

Thallen 12-22-2014 09:33 PM

I think what they are asking is basically:
For players who are not in the guild (or its allies) that currently holds the tower, display an indicator over the head of the players in the guild (and its allies) that is currently holding the tower.

That way, they can differentiate the guild, and allies, defending the tower from PKers and other guilds that are attacking them.

freakytree 12-22-2014 09:33 PM

I meant that only the guild that is holding the tower should have the indicators

Dusty 12-22-2014 09:36 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 528973)
I think what they are asking is basically:
For players who are not in the guild (or its allies) that currently holds the tower, display an indicator over the head of the players in the guild (and its allies) that is currently holding the tower.

That way, they can differentiate the guild, and allies, defending the tower from PKers and other guilds that are attacking them.

Okay, this makes sense.

4-Lom 12-23-2014 07:14 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 528961)
He's implying "mass PKing" which happens outside of Graal City. That sort of thing doesn't happen in towers, does it?


Hang around MOD for about ten minutes. It really does.

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Posted by Dusty (Post 528970)
Well I am getting mixed signals here and it's confusing me.

I suggest indicators for everyone not allied(ie targets) and no one wants it. Then it's implied indicators for guildmates/allies, but don't they already have indicators?

Original post requested that an attacking character could have indicators for the defending guild.

It would make sense, then, that defending players could also have indicators for non-allied attackers.

freakytree 12-23-2014 07:21 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 529078)
It would make sense, then, that defending players could also have indicators for non-allied attackers.

That would be so cluttered and essentially useless- there is only one guild defending so you would attack anyone not in the guild (which you could identify because they don't have the green indicator)

4-Lom 12-23-2014 10:05 AM

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Posted by freakytree (Post 529083)
That would be so cluttered and essentially useless- there is only one guild defending so you would attack anyone not in the guild (which you could identify because they don't have the green indicator)

Yeah, you have a point. Most towers also don't allow folks in without a guild tag anyway, I suppose.

Dusty 12-23-2014 11:44 PM

I have just implemented this for a test run. Let me know your opinions. Right now I notice it's a bit hard to see though because most people in towers are constantly being hurt, and the hearts draw over it.

Ash Ketchum 12-24-2014 02:03 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 529271)
I have just implemented this for a test run. Let me know your opinions. Right now I notice it's a bit hard to see though because most people in towers are constantly being hurt, and the hearts draw over it.

holy *** . well done

freakytree 12-24-2014 02:04 AM

I like it. It's actually really helpful. Thank you

Livid 12-24-2014 06:15 AM

Its pretty good, just noticed it, if i didnt like it then it would count as an indicator and can be removed thriugh the options right?

Mizochi 12-24-2014 06:22 PM

Really awesome! Flags on just tower owners is awesome makes focusing them easier

Droid 12-25-2014 03:48 PM

Thanks Dusty for adding this so quickly :)

Thallen 12-25-2014 11:11 PM

easy

Dusty 12-26-2014 04:15 AM

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Posted by Livid (Post 529339)
Its pretty good, just noticed it, if i didnt like it then it would count as an indicator and can be removed thriugh the options right?

They do.


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