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Zetectic 09-16-2014 03:51 AM

Just Bad Delay or VPN?
 
I got mad when she was inhittable whatsoever. Idk if shes abusing VPN or its just bad delay n sry 4 using sarah as a comparison, idk if she delay now, but im referring to pro spar vid 1.

wildkeldeo 09-16-2014 03:53 AM

Hig-

Ah,
I see what you did there. :P

ryan6 09-16-2014 04:00 AM

what the heck?

Zetectic 09-16-2014 04:04 AM

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Posted by ryan6 (Post 506330)
what the heck?

GTFO 2 skype. i dont need u here.

Rogers 09-16-2014 04:17 AM

She always have lag or delay and admins dont do (or cant do) nothing, dont worry just avoid her xD

Zetectic 09-16-2014 04:32 AM

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Posted by Rogers (Post 506333)
She always have lag or delay and admins dont do (or cant do) nothing, dont worry just avoid her xD

Do u see a lag in the vid? cuz i dont and admins got a job to do n0w

Brick 09-16-2014 06:04 AM

The thing about lag sparrers is it's hard to tell if it's intentional or accidental. We can't give out warnings if they can't help it

GOAT 09-16-2014 06:26 AM

future member of the sarah and abood gang. :D


She knows what she's doing.

Thallen 09-16-2014 06:34 AM

she lives in either the US or Canada, so that should pretty much answer your question
really not hard to beat anyone who does that, it's just boring and takes a long time

Rogers 09-16-2014 07:29 AM

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Posted by Brick (Post 506362)
The thing about lag sparrers is it's hard to tell if it's intentional or accidental. We can't give out warnings if they can't help it

I understand that but why not warp this kind of people when some on report them? And you guys see they are lagging or delaying so hard?

Brick 09-16-2014 08:14 AM

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Posted by Rogers (Post 506377)
I understand that but why not warp this kind of people when some on report them? And you guys see they are lagging or delaying so hard?

We almost always warp/disconnect them. However, this doesn't do much if they just go right back to sparring.

hosler 09-16-2014 05:25 PM

Learn to spar with lag. She did.

Colin 09-16-2014 09:15 PM

This is so pointless lmao

Zetectic 09-16-2014 10:35 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 506474)
This is so pointless lmao

yo mom is ptless

admin u gotta learn how to detect vpn users and auto disconnect them from the spar.

Colin 09-16-2014 10:54 PM

There isn't really a method to detect VPN's an iP from a VPN is the same as a normal iP.

Zal 09-18-2014 03:13 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 506480)
yo mom is ptless

admin u gotta learn how to detect vpn users and auto disconnect them from the spar.

Sorry this is probably a stupid question but I don't spar often so what do you mean VPN user? How are they using a vpn to abuse spar? Just curious because I have never heard that before.

Zetectic 09-18-2014 04:23 AM

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Posted by Zal (Post 506807)
Sorry this is probably a stupid question but I don't spar often so what do you mean VPN user? How are they using a vpn to abuse spar? Just curious because I have never heard that before.

i aint yo google mother******. jk
Vpn is virtual private network and when u use it, your data/signal goes through that network station makes whole load of lag and delay. Its pretty much self explanatory, my friend showed me once and it was just like the video.

Zal 09-18-2014 04:35 AM

Thanks! I knew what a VPN was but I didn't understand how they could use it to win at spar but that totally makes sense :)

Fulgore 09-18-2014 06:52 PM

Not really, because lag makes it just as bad for the one using it as the one vsing against it. Something a lot of people don't understand.

Zetectic 09-18-2014 10:42 PM

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It's up to you admins.

GOAT 09-19-2014 12:17 AM

"shared knowledge" lol

Zetectic, you should start a thread called exposed and record all the cheaters. Public shaming is lol

Colin 09-19-2014 12:32 AM

It's even funnier when the person you're shaming doesn't care.

Zetectic, sorry to say it but you're kind of the loser right now not her.

Zetectic 09-19-2014 12:40 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 507023)
It's even funnier when the person you're shaming doesn't care.

Zetectic, sorry to say it but you're kind of the loser right now not her.

lol so we're deciding whos loser and whos not?
technically I already lost to her (in spar), I don't want u to be a loser like me, so I exposed her for you

GOAT 09-19-2014 12:50 AM

colin is jigsaw

Colin 09-19-2014 01:22 AM

Well you see, I could care less about a loss in spar and people like her are easy to beat, you however seem to have taken it to heart trying to expose her for lagging or something wack like that, if that's your attitude you're about to be making a lot more spar threads.

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Posted by GOAT (Post 507028)
colin is jigsaw

I must spread my rep before giving it to you :( looks like Graalians supports cheating on your significant other sorry :(

Kouji 09-19-2014 01:29 AM

I don't know what that is but I'm absolutely sure it's intentional, since I've seen her in towers and she doesn't delay so I'm gonna go with VPN

Zetectic 09-19-2014 01:29 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 507033)
Well you see, I could care less about a loss in spar and people like her are easy to beat, you however seem to have taken it to heart trying to expose her for lagging or something wack like that, if that's your attitude you're about to be making a lot more spar threads.

lmao i never saw u sparring once ever in my life. go record, beat her and prove to me that she's easy to beat. I take spar seriously, because its one of the reason why I play this game and I want it to be fair. Perhaps there's an exception, the only acceptable laggers/delayers are foreigns. we can't do anything about 'em, its not their fault and in this case, she doesn't fall under that category.

Colin 09-19-2014 01:36 AM

You never saw me spar which means I don't spar since you must keep tabs in every battle arena room 24/7 sorry I forgot i'll keep that in mind next time I lie! :)

Lol but seriously I barely play and when I do my character has no name anyways, report her and move on posting about it here won't change anything besides people can't tell who they're sparring next so they can't really avoid her + most of us smart enough not to care too much over an online record.

Now I am leaving to finish my show goodbye

Zetectic 09-19-2014 01:43 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 507037)
You never saw me spar which means I don't spar since you must keep tabs in every battle arena room 24/7 sorry I forgot i'll keep that in mind next time I lie! :)

Lol but seriously I barely play and when I do my character has no name anyways, report her and move on posting about it here won't change anything besides people can't tell who they're sparring next so they can't really avoid her + most of us smart enough not to care too much over an online record.

Now I am leaving to finish my show goodbye

u barely play and dont spar? gtfo btch
i already reported her and they probably warped her. cuz its all they can do.
i made this thread to make sure its vpn, im not mistaking it.
and this has nothing to do with online record, I just want a fair condition for sparring.

Fulgore 09-19-2014 01:59 AM

VPN=no different than normal lag=still able to spar against it

This is like complaining because you lost a spar to someone in France. It's the same exact way of sparring. If someone wants to inhibit themselves with VPN fine, it only hurts them (and weak sparrers who can't handle the minimal strategy in swinging ahead)

Zetectic 09-19-2014 02:18 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 507046)
VPN=no different than normal lag=still able to spar against it

This is like complaining because you lost a spar to someone in France. It's the same exact way of sparring. If someone wants to inhibit themselves with VPN fine, it only hurts them (and weak sparrers who can't handle the minimal strategy in swinging ahead)

lmao yes it is complaining + me whining about a vpn user. She doesnt live in france, she lives in canada.
u r full of urself, i dont wanna hear words, go record, beat her and show me. cuz im a weak sparrer and also prove to me that vpn equals normal.

Colin 09-19-2014 02:23 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 507042)
u barely play and dont spar? gtfo btch
i already reported her and they probably warped her. cuz its all they can do.
i made this thread to make sure its vpn, im not mistaking it.
and this has nothing to do with online record, I just want a fair condition for sparring.

No I do spar, I just said I was lying sarcastically because of how dumb you sounded saying you've never seen me spar.

Also not everyone in Canada will have a good connection dude

Zetectic 09-19-2014 02:25 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 507054)
No I do spar, I just said I was lying sarcastically because of how dumb you sounded saying you've never seen me spar.

Also not everyone in Canada will have a good connection dude

im serious rn, im not taking ur dumb sarcasm.
and i sparred many canadians, nobody had a worse delay than a person from Australia. which is 10k miles away from US

Colin 09-19-2014 02:29 AM

Actually it's 9,463 miles but gotta go finish this episode of Freaks and Geek good luck in future matches good sir

Zetectic 09-19-2014 02:32 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 507057)
Actually it's 9,463 miles but gotta go finish this episode of Freaks and Geek good luck in future matches good sir

O u dont have to b so precise, but thx. i rounded it up to 10k mi

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Posted by Kouji (Post 507035)
I don't know what that is but I'm absolutely sure it's intentional, since I've seen her in towers and she doesn't delay so I'm gonna go with VPN

^^^^ witness

^^^^ screenshots from Sarah

if u wanna keep going, sure i will

Crono 09-19-2014 05:49 PM

Is she supposed to be good?

Fulgore 09-19-2014 07:40 PM

VPN is normal because it just adds lag. If you're on pc, go download a game on Steam and play graal. It has the same effect. I'm not saying I can beat her, never implied it, but if I lost I wouldn't make a thread about it.

My personal advice is to find a close friend of yours who does indeed lag, and practice with him/her. It helps hone prediction skills, and then you can go beat her and the problem will be solved at it's root :)

Zetectic 09-19-2014 07:49 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 507170)
Is she supposed to be good?

I know she sucks without delay

Zetectic 09-20-2014 12:31 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 507194)
VPN is normal because it just adds lag. If you're on pc, go download a game on Steam and play graal. It has the same effect. I'm not saying I can beat her, never implied it, but if I lost I wouldn't make a thread about it.

My personal advice is to find a close friend of yours who does indeed lag, and practice with him/her. It helps hone prediction skills, and then you can go beat her and the problem will be solved at it's root :)

thx 4 the guide 'How to Make Delay For Spar'. I sparred her 4-5 times, the reason why I made this thread is because she isn't like any other delayers. Most delayers comes with a tiny lag and for the most time that lag makes them bit slower than a normal player and it's easier to predict their move. This girl, as you can see from the video didn't lag a single bit.

Kirko 09-20-2014 01:14 AM

VPN makes you lag? I didnt know that. :o
I've always used VPN and I never lag, well at least that I know of.

Thallen 09-22-2014 12:13 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 507222)
This girl, as you can see from the video didn't lag a single bit.

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/co...-ex-torrei.jpg

Aguzo 09-22-2014 01:14 AM

Just time your hits, no need to complain about lag/delay. I always fight delayers and laggers, I used to be bad against them, now it's easy to beat them just takes time and practice. Delayers are not impossible to hit, you just have to time your hits correctly based on where you think they will go next (hit earlier than usual to where they will go)

I have always wanted to make a tutorial video on how to spar, but I feel too lazy.

Zetectic 09-23-2014 03:25 AM

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Posted by Hikaru (Post 507697)
Just time your hits, no need to complain about lag/delay. I always fight delayers and laggers, I used to be bad against them, now it's easy to beat them just takes time and practice. Delayers are not impossible to hit, you just have to time your hits correctly based on where you think they will go next (hit earlier than usual to where they will go)

I have always wanted to make a tutorial video on how to spar, but I feel too lazy.

timing hits? i wish that sounds easy as it is, out of over 200-300 delayers I sparred in the past, she's a clear vpn delayer. That's why I made this thread. I won't make a thread about a delayer who lives in Australia or Europe and they don't delay as bad as her.
i dont need u to make a tutorial video for how to spar, but I would appreciate when u record sparring against jigsaw from Corpus and show me.

I have seen some of good sparrers got rekt by her and they have no idea what just happened. (most people get rekt by 1.5+)

btw just some clarification, her cheating has been determined. Sarah helped me out a little, she proved that she isn't exactly a VPN cheater, but some similar sorts of cheating. So basically she can control her delay.

hosler 09-23-2014 02:29 PM

Buy an unshielded network cable and run it along side a bunch of other cables. That should give you some nice latency.

Zetectic 09-23-2014 04:25 PM

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Posted by hosler (Post 508015)
Buy an unshielded network cable and run it along side a bunch of other cables. That should give you some nice latency.

Rofl u think im here to learn
How to delay?

hosler 09-23-2014 04:55 PM

Take it or leave it. I don't care.

Zetectic 09-23-2014 06:52 PM

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Posted by Holser (Post 508029)
Take it or leave it. I don't care.

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 506324)
Idk if shes abusing VPN or its just bad delay

I was asking u a question, not a way to delay/lag like her.

Fulgore 09-23-2014 09:25 PM

If delay is such a big advantage why aren't you wanting to learn?

Zetectic 09-23-2014 09:36 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 508063)
If delay is such a big advantage why aren't you wanting to learn?

cuz i spar alright without cheating like her

GOAT 09-23-2014 10:54 PM

Im still waiting for someone to do a video showing how "easy" it is to beat her.


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